China threatens to send Lithuania to garbage bin of history

[GENSOC]

This is a huge victory for Taiwan and i hope other countries go on-board with this

I for one support Taiwan, and hope that someday they will be recognized over West Taiwan.

[Kaczynskisatva]

[Sovijet Socialist Republics]

Like the above poster said; Lithuania is sadly already in the garbage bin that is the E.U.

Though i don't agree with the pseudo-Communist P.R.C., so i really have no opinion.

[The Two Jerseys]

Based Lithuania.

I look forward to Xi pulling a reverse Tsushima.

[Vivolkha]

Only time will tell who gets swept to the garbage bin of history. Whatever that even means in the first place.

This incident is just business as usual in international relations. Just another strident Chinese remark at something they dislike, like they've done time and time again.

[Great Algerstonia]

Can we send Albania there too?

[-Astoria-]

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Pressed the X button to doubt, I have.

[Rusozak]

Apparently the Chinese government is going with the Trump strategy of bullying anyone who disagrees with you, no matter how petty and irrelevant. Imagine a superpower feeling threatened by two small nations talking to each other.

[Ostroeuropa]

China embodies lady screaming at cat meme.

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

China embodies lady screaming at cat meme.

[Neanderthaland]

Laughs in Jagiellonian.

[Kaczynskisatva]

Apparently the Chinese government is going with the Trump strategy of bullying anyone who disagrees with you, no matter how petty and irrelevant. Imagine a superpower feeling threatened by two small nations talking to each other.

Firstly, the island of Formosa isn't a nation.

Secondly,

Try to imagine if Donald Trump had lost the election, refused to concede, declared himself the rightfully elected president, attempted a palace coup, failed, launched a civil war, failed the civil war, and then retreated to Hawaii with most of the US Navy, which remained loyal to him. Then, imagine that, while sitting in Hawaii, with the mainland US government being unable to realistically get out there and invade him, he declared that Hawaii belonged to America, as did all of its other territories, and that his was the rightful government of all of America. Then, imagine that he suddenly discovered that he was best friends with Russia and China, who started showering this rogue American Hawaii state with modern weapons, trade deals, etc - and the American Hawaii government converted to Ethnostate-ism, and firmly maintained its intentions to one day govern all of America, under Ethnostate-ism.

Then, imagine that decades pass in a stalemate like this, and over this time, the military assets of American Hawaii become technologically obsolete, while mainland America, having most of the population, research and production of America, develops a modern Navy which could easily invade and reclaim American Hawaii. Now, crown this fantasy with an image of Vladimir Putin announcing his "firm commitment to protect American Ethnostate-ism in American Hawaii" and Russian warships patrolling the waters around the island to deter "imperialist mainland aggression" and Russian senators and television pundits waxing poetically about "Russia's commitment to protect its allies."

Then, try to imagine how the mainland American administration would react, if, say, Pakistan came out and recognized the sovereignty of American Hawaii, at a time when the entire world was not recognizing American Hawaii, and was recognizing the government in Washington as the legitimate government of all US territories, including Hawaii, and recognizing the occupation government in Hawaii as a civil war stalemate situation, but not as a legitimate government of an independent nation.

It's not clear what Pakistan would have to do with this situation, or why they would stick their opinion in it - just as it is not clear, here, what Lithuania has to do with any of this, or why they think they have something to do with it.

However, since I can safely assume that the average forum lurker is incapable of really putting themselves in other people's shoes, this exercise in fantasy is the best possible device to explain to Western readers what the Chinese feeling is about this situation. A strongly worded letter is to be expected.

[Kaczynskisatva]

Thirdly, I think it is worth noting that the Chinese are an extremely polite people, and this extends to their diplomacy. In sharp contrast to America/NATO diplomacy, China does not habitually threaten or verbally provoke their neighbors. Even in the recent border skirmishes with India, they were all "blah blah blah calm restraint resolution dialogue blah blah blah" over the losses of 50-150 men on each side, with the sort of cordiality you would expect from the Alibaba guy confirming your order.

Realistically, they will probably find some way to make this cost Lithuania money, since they usually conduct their foreign relations through money. Lithuania is such a small nation with such a mediocre economy, China would not have to shift much of its own weight to hurt Lithuanian economic interests, somewhere, somehow. I am sure they will be successful at that.

I do not understand, at all, the Lithuanian angle in this weird behavior.

[Rusozak]

Apparently the Chinese government is going with the Trump strategy of bullying anyone who disagrees with you, no matter how petty and irrelevant. Imagine a superpower feeling threatened by two small nations talking to each other.

Firstly, the island of Formosa isn't a nation.

Yeah I think I can safely disregard anything else you had to say after disqualifying yourself with that very first line.

[Kaczynskisatva]

Yeah I think I can safely disregard anything else you had to say after disqualifying yourself with that very first line.

You don't need this forum, you need a dictionary.

[The Blaatschapen]

First Russia, now China.

All we need now is North Korea to make some big threat and we'll have the communist trifecta on our bingo ballot.

Poor Cuba feeling left out.

The PRC needs to be destroyed.

[Kaczynskisatva]

The PRC needs to be destroyed.

If the collapse of the USSR taught you anything, it should have been that the destruction of...

you know what, forget it. It clearly didn't teach you anything.

[The Blaatschapen]

The PRC needs to be destroyed.

If the collapse of the USSR taught you anything, it should have been that the destruction of...

you know what, forget it. It clearly didn't teach you anything.

The collapse of the ussr taught me a few things, but indeed it probably didn't teach me what you were about to say.

[Segland]

Apparently the Chinese government is going with the Trump strategy of bullying anyone who disagrees with you, no matter how petty and irrelevant. Imagine a superpower feeling threatened by two small nations talking to each other.

Firstly, the island of Formosa isn't a nation.

Secondly,

Try to imagine if Donald Trump had lost the election, refused to concede, declared himself the rightfully elected president, attempted a palace coup, failed, launched a civil war, failed the civil war, and then retreated to Hawaii with most of the US Navy, which remained loyal to him. Then, imagine that, while sitting in Hawaii, with the mainland US government being unable to realistically get out there and invade him, he declared that Hawaii belonged to America, as did all of its other territories, and that his was the rightful government of all of America. Then, imagine that he suddenly discovered that he was best friends with Russia and China, who started showering this rogue American Hawaii state with modern weapons, trade deals, etc - and the American Hawaii government converted to Ethnostate-ism, and firmly maintained its intentions to one day govern all of America, under Ethnostate-ism.

Then, imagine that decades pass in a stalemate like this, and over this time, the military assets of American Hawaii become technologically obsolete, while mainland America, having most of the population, research and production of America, develops a modern Navy which could easily invade and reclaim American Hawaii. Now, crown this fantasy with an image of Vladimir Putin announcing his "firm commitment to protect American Ethnostate-ism in American Hawaii" and Russian warships patrolling the waters around the island to deter "imperialist mainland aggression" and Russian senators and television pundits waxing poetically about "Russia's commitment to protect its allies."

Then, try to imagine how the mainland American administration would react, if, say, Pakistan came out and recognized the sovereignty of American Hawaii, at a time when the entire world was not recognizing American Hawaii, and was recognizing the government in Washington as the legitimate government of all US territories, including Hawaii, and recognizing the occupation government in Hawaii as a civil war stalemate situation, but not as a legitimate government of an independent nation.

It's not clear what Pakistan would have to do with this situation, or why they would stick their opinion in it - just as it is not clear, here, what Lithuania has to do with any of this, or why they think they have something to do with it.

However, since I can safely assume that the average forum lurker is incapable of really putting themselves in other people's shoes, this exercise in fantasy is the best possible device to explain to Western readers what the Chinese feeling is about this situation. A strongly worded letter is to be expected.

Lmao, the KMT losing the Chinese Civil War is not analogous to Trump losing in 2020. There was never a democratic election held in China to legitimize the CCP.

[Constaniana]

Ah, so this is what those diplomatic insults from EU4 look like in real life.

Try to imagine if Donald Trump had lost the election, refused to concede, declared himself the rightfully elected president, attempted a palace coup, failed, launched a civil war, failed the civil war, and then retreated to Hawaii with most of the US Navy, which remained loyal to him. Then, imagine that, while sitting in Hawaii, with the mainland US government being unable to realistically get out there and invade him, he declared that Hawaii belonged to America, as did all of its other territories, and that his was the rightful government of all of America.

Dude that sounds turbo-based. Hanging out with the bois on a cruiser in Pearl Harbor, beach volleyball à la Top Gun every day for PT, all the pineapple and seafood you can eat, very epic.

[Rusozak]

Firstly, the island of Formosa isn't a nation.

Secondly,

Try to imagine if Donald Trump had lost the election, refused to concede, declared himself the rightfully elected president, attempted a palace coup, failed, launched a civil war, failed the civil war, and then retreated to Hawaii with most of the US Navy, which remained loyal to him. Then, imagine that, while sitting in Hawaii, with the mainland US government being unable to realistically get out there and invade him, he declared that Hawaii belonged to America, as did all of its other territories, and that his was the rightful government of all of America. Then, imagine that he suddenly discovered that he was best friends with Russia and China, who started showering this rogue American Hawaii state with modern weapons, trade deals, etc - and the American Hawaii government converted to Ethnostate-ism, and firmly maintained its intentions to one day govern all of America, under Ethnostate-ism.

Then, imagine that decades pass in a stalemate like this, and over this time, the military assets of American Hawaii become technologically obsolete, while mainland America, having most of the population, research and production of America, develops a modern Navy which could easily invade and reclaim American Hawaii. Now, crown this fantasy with an image of Vladimir Putin announcing his "firm commitment to protect American Ethnostate-ism in American Hawaii" and Russian warships patrolling the waters around the island to deter "imperialist mainland aggression" and Russian senators and television pundits waxing poetically about "Russia's commitment to protect its allies."

Then, try to imagine how the mainland American administration would react, if, say, Pakistan came out and recognized the sovereignty of American Hawaii, at a time when the entire world was not recognizing American Hawaii, and was recognizing the government in Washington as the legitimate government of all US territories, including Hawaii, and recognizing the occupation government in Hawaii as a civil war stalemate situation, but not as a legitimate government of an independent nation.

It's not clear what Pakistan would have to do with this situation, or why they would stick their opinion in it - just as it is not clear, here, what Lithuania has to do with any of this, or why they think they have something to do with it.

However, since I can safely assume that the average forum lurker is incapable of really putting themselves in other people's shoes, this exercise in fantasy is the best possible device to explain to Western readers what the Chinese feeling is about this situation. A strongly worded letter is to be expected.

Lmao, the KMT losing the Chinese Civil War is not analogous to Trump losing in 2020. There was never a democratic election held in China to legitimize the CCP.

I fail to understand how some people actually think that a regime that rose to power through violent conquest has rightful legal claim to the last part of the country they weren't able to conquer. Because they were historic lands of the race this conquering regime claims to represent? That's the reasoning behind the pre-WW2 Nazi annexations. When is the PRC going to drop the act and embrace that they are today's Nazis?

[Punished UMN]

Firstly, the island of Formosa isn't a nation.

Secondly,

Try to imagine if Donald Trump had lost the election, refused to concede, declared himself the rightfully elected president, attempted a palace coup, failed, launched a civil war, failed the civil war, and then retreated to Hawaii with most of the US Navy, which remained loyal to him. Then, imagine that, while sitting in Hawaii, with the mainland US government being unable to realistically get out there and invade him, he declared that Hawaii belonged to America, as did all of its other territories, and that his was the rightful government of all of America. Then, imagine that he suddenly discovered that he was best friends with Russia and China, who started showering this rogue American Hawaii state with modern weapons, trade deals, etc - and the American Hawaii government converted to Ethnostate-ism, and firmly maintained its intentions to one day govern all of America, under Ethnostate-ism.

Then, imagine that decades pass in a stalemate like this, and over this time, the military assets of American Hawaii become technologically obsolete, while mainland America, having most of the population, research and production of America, develops a modern Navy which could easily invade and reclaim American Hawaii. Now, crown this fantasy with an image of Vladimir Putin announcing his "firm commitment to protect American Ethnostate-ism in American Hawaii" and Russian warships patrolling the waters around the island to deter "imperialist mainland aggression" and Russian senators and television pundits waxing poetically about "Russia's commitment to protect its allies."

Then, try to imagine how the mainland American administration would react, if, say, Pakistan came out and recognized the sovereignty of American Hawaii, at a time when the entire world was not recognizing American Hawaii, and was recognizing the government in Washington as the legitimate government of all US territories, including Hawaii, and recognizing the occupation government in Hawaii as a civil war stalemate situation, but not as a legitimate government of an independent nation.

It's not clear what Pakistan would have to do with this situation, or why they would stick their opinion in it - just as it is not clear, here, what Lithuania has to do with any of this, or why they think they have something to do with it.

However, since I can safely assume that the average forum lurker is incapable of really putting themselves in other people's shoes, this exercise in fantasy is the best possible device to explain to Western readers what the Chinese feeling is about this situation. A strongly worded letter is to be expected.

Lmao, the KMT losing the Chinese Civil War is not analogous to Trump losing in 2020. There was never a democratic election held in China to legitimize the CCP.

There was never a democratic election to legitimize the KMT either.

[Vikanias]

Thirdly, I think it is worth noting that the Chinese are an extremely polite people, and this extends to their diplomacy. In sharp contrast to America/NATO diplomacy, China does not habitually threaten or verbally provoke their neighbors. Even in the recent border skirmishes with India, they were all "blah blah blah calm restraint resolution dialogue blah blah blah" over the losses of 50-150 men on each side, with the sort of cordiality you would expect from the Alibaba guy confirming your order.

Realistically, they will probably find some way to make this cost Lithuania money, since they usually conduct their foreign relations through money. Lithuania is such a small nation with such a mediocre economy, China would not have to shift much of its own weight to hurt Lithuanian economic interests, somewhere, somehow. I am sure they will be successful at that.

I do not understand, at all, the Lithuanian angle in this weird behavior.

We aren’t attacking the Chinese people, we are attacking however the crybaby toddlers in the CCP who are fucking terrified of a Baltic country wanting to do its diplomacy independently.

[Arcturus Novus]

Thirdly, I think it is worth noting that the Chinese are an extremely polite people, and this extends to their diplomacy. In sharp contrast to America/NATO diplomacy, China does not habitually threaten or verbally provoke their neighbors. Even in the recent border skirmishes with India, they were all "blah blah blah calm restraint resolution dialogue blah blah blah" over the losses of 50-150 men on each side, with the sort of cordiality you would expect from the Alibaba guy confirming your order.

Realistically, they will probably find some way to make this cost Lithuania money, since they usually conduct their foreign relations through money. Lithuania is such a small nation with such a mediocre economy, China would not have to shift much of its own weight to hurt Lithuanian economic interests, somewhere, somehow. I am sure they will be successful at that.

I do not understand, at all, the Lithuanian angle in this weird behavior.

We aren’t attacking the Chinese people, we are attacking however the crybaby toddlers in the CCP who are fucking terrified of a Baltic country wanting to do its diplomacy independently.

The fact that so many people here think that the Chinese government is quaking in its boots over a Taiwanese embassy in Vilnius is… I don’t even really have a word for it? It’s like when a toddler makes a joke that makes absolute zero sense but you laugh along anyways because they’re 3 and their brain doesn’t understand most concepts yet.

[Rio Cana]

Found out that when the Republic of China lost its UN security seat to the PRC that some nations would have gone along with getting Taiwan a seat on the general assembly. It would be has if they were independent of the mainland. But the then Pres. of the Republic of China (Taiwan) General Chiang Kai-shek turned it down. He was intent on one day retaking the mainland. If he had taken the offer most likely non of this would be happening.