The Invasion of Ukraine, Russia Threatens Finland/Sweden
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:20 pm
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/17/worl ... -deal.html
https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/rso/na ... ar_cache=Y
Russian Demands:
1. NATO forces and equipment to withdraw from Czechia, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Albania, Croatia, Montenegro and North Macedonia, as well and any forces stationed in non-member states such as military trainers in Ukraine.
2. No more NATO expansion, regardless of where in the world.
3. No NATO military exercises in Ukraine, Eastern Europe, Southern Caucuses and Central Asia.
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My opinion:
We should probably begin to prepare in case this escalates. These demands are unhinged enough that I am now beginning to doubt that Russia is governed by rational actors who will avoid war with NATO. Russia has continuously escalated and done a bunch of shit by this point.
We probably need to discuss whether to adopt Russia's shadow-war strategies in the coming months and adopt a policy of assassinations while gaslighting Russia over it and so on, such would be preferable to WW3. Impressing upon Russian generals and oligarchs that we are not going to capitulate and they had best get rid of Putin and his government and so on, perhaps negotiating with them in terms of "Well. I'm sure that given the situation, the freezing of your accounts could be lifted" and so on.
But I am now of the opinion that the Putin government needs to be brought down by any means short of that which will provoke war, and that we probably do need to be prepared for Russia to start a war.
EDIT:
Russian Threats to Finland/Sweden
https://thehill.com/policy/internationa ... if-finland
https://www.tbsnews.net/world/finland-o ... rns-376246
https://eurasiantimes.com/russia-sends- ... raine-way/
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-threate ... on-1682715
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/ ... en-313696/
https://mid.ru/ru/foreign_policy/rso/na ... ar_cache=Y
Russian Demands:
1. NATO forces and equipment to withdraw from Czechia, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Albania, Croatia, Montenegro and North Macedonia, as well and any forces stationed in non-member states such as military trainers in Ukraine.
2. No more NATO expansion, regardless of where in the world.
3. No NATO military exercises in Ukraine, Eastern Europe, Southern Caucuses and Central Asia.
-----------
My opinion:
We should probably begin to prepare in case this escalates. These demands are unhinged enough that I am now beginning to doubt that Russia is governed by rational actors who will avoid war with NATO. Russia has continuously escalated and done a bunch of shit by this point.
We probably need to discuss whether to adopt Russia's shadow-war strategies in the coming months and adopt a policy of assassinations while gaslighting Russia over it and so on, such would be preferable to WW3. Impressing upon Russian generals and oligarchs that we are not going to capitulate and they had best get rid of Putin and his government and so on, perhaps negotiating with them in terms of "Well. I'm sure that given the situation, the freezing of your accounts could be lifted" and so on.
But I am now of the opinion that the Putin government needs to be brought down by any means short of that which will provoke war, and that we probably do need to be prepared for Russia to start a war.
EDIT:
Russian Threats to Finland/Sweden
https://thehill.com/policy/internationa ... if-finland
https://www.tbsnews.net/world/finland-o ... rns-376246
https://eurasiantimes.com/russia-sends- ... raine-way/
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-threate ... on-1682715
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/ ... en-313696/