The Invasion of Ukraine, Russia Threatens Finland/Sweden

[Ostroeuropa]

The US has stated they are prepared to evacuate Zelensky. Which presumably means a small number of US troops will enter the area if requested.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... ly-target/

However, Zelenskyy seems to have made up his mind. I wouldn't be surprised if he evacuated his family and remained in Kyiv.

I hope to God he lives.

I actually think that him making up his mind is one reason why the US offered it. It would be a highly risky thing that could result in US troops being killed and escalating the conflict.

However offering it, knowing it will be declined, helps the martyr narrative. Alongside the french offer, which would likewise strengthen it. If he instead goes down fighting on the front it's a major propoganda victory.

[Jerzylvania]

The Russians better think twice before committing this man to Martyrdom.

They already had the Snake Island Martyrs and that one Ukrainian Combat Engineer who suicide bombed a bridge.

Yeah, but this is their President.

Literally, the Russian Armed Forces is just one big assassination hit squad.

[El Lazaro]

Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) calls for every Russian student in the US to be kicked out of the country
He was also supported by Rep. Ruben Gallego (D-AZ)


guess we found the pro-internment caucus

The particularly horrific part of interment is that they told foreign nationals on temporary stays to go back and stop using American taxpayer dollars until the conflict was resolved, definitely no problems other than that. The treatment of undocumented immigrants is a million times worse and even less deserved than that, but I guess this is where we stick to our principles and draw the line.

[Jerzylvania]

However, Zelenskyy seems to have made up his mind. I wouldn't be surprised if he evacuated his family and remained in Kyiv.

I hope to God he lives.

I actually think that him making up his mind is one reason why the US offered it. It would be a highly risky thing that could result in US troops being killed and escalating the conflict.

However offering it, knowing it will be declined, helps the martyr narrative. Alongside the french offer, which would likewise strengthen it. If he instead goes down fighting on the front it's a major propoganda victory.

Of enormous value for scores of years, perhaps even centuries.

[Saiwania]

Republicans/Conservatives in the US are predominately splitting into 3 main camps on this issue, with just one being anti-Russia.

The neo-cons or establishment are backing Ukraine and are against Russia's invasion, all the traditional "hawks" that favor more US/NATO interventionism.

You have the pro-Russia camp that is skeptical about criticism of Putin/Russia and instead see good things from him and what they represent.
Lastly, there is the "who cares" camp where there is belief that the US shouldn't get involved and is bewildered as to why Joe Biden/Democrats want to.

[New Baltenstein]

They already had the Snake Island Martyrs and that one Ukrainian Combat Engineer who suicide bombed a bridge.

Yeah, but this is their President.

Literally, the Russian Armed Forces is just one big assassination hit squad.

I honestly wonder what the suicide rates in the Russian military will be through this and after this. Deep down, many of them must feel how fucked up the whole ordeal is.

[Antipatros]

Zelensky seems to intend on making an honorable stand for his nation.

That said, he should ensure continuity of government. It is important to enable Ukrainians to keep resisting.

In the long run, it may be necessary to establish a Ukrainian government in exile.

[Kowani]

because idiocy is bipartisan, Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) is calling for the US to enforce a no-fly-zone over Ukraine

[Antipatros]

because idiocy is bipartisan, Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) is calling for the US to enforce a no-fly-zone over Ukraine

I don't know who it was, but someone in the British Parliament also asked this of the Johnson government.

I don't think these people fully understand the implications of establishing a no-fly zone.

[Tarsonis]

in an act of solidarity, I have broken my alliance with Russia in my current TW: Empire campaign. Profitable as it was, Poland- Lithuania will not stand for this blatant aggression

[Utquiagvik]

With every update to this war, it seems closer to a WW3 situation.

[Ostroeuropa]

By the way.

Putin isn't even in Moscow.

JUST IN CASE this escalates, he's not even in the city. He's in his bunker somewhere. (Though to be fair it may be a tactical command center that is incidentally not there).

[Jerzylvania]

Yeah, but this is their President.

Literally, the Russian Armed Forces is just one big assassination hit squad.

I honestly wonder what the suicide rates in the Russian military will be through this and after this. Deep down, many of them must feel how fucked up the whole ordeal is.

I've wondered about what some of them are thinking too. Immortalizing the Zelenskyy surely wasn't in their propaganda brochure, but still a few must feel something extra-ordinary might happen here.

[Tarsonis]

By the way.

Putin isn't even in Moscow.

JUST IN CASE this escalates, he's not even in the city. He's in his bunker somewhere.

That would be insane if Ukrainian forces in the east broke through and advanced on Moscow. I mean, they'd get annihilated, but it'd be an oh shit moment for sure

[Antipatros]

in an act of solidarity, I have broken my alliance with Russia in my current TW: Empire campaign. Profitable as it was, Poland- Lithuania will not stand for this blatant aggression

I'm personally boycotting all Russian and Belarusian products and services.

[Novus America]

because idiocy is bipartisan, Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) is calling for the US to enforce a no-fly-zone over Ukraine

I am not sure this is idiocy. Russia’s nuclear threshold is much higher, and we do not need boots on the ground fighting.
Why is this inherently so bad? It is the only way to stop the war.

They are fighting so bravely while we just watch them die.

It would be morally right no doubt. I still question of the cost is worth it but I cannot reject it out of hand.

[San Lumen]

Yes he will and im afraid much of the capital will also be leveled as well. Putin will not only be remembered for a totally unnecessary war but a leader who caused mass casualties and destroyed irreplaceable structures and artwork. The latter of which is a loss to to the entire world.

3 million people live in Kyiv and I'm not sure many of them have managed to flee the city, it's in very bad taste you're choosing to emphasize the loss of the structures and artwork over the people who will lose their lives in this conflict.

The loss of human life is above all. I should have chosen better wording

[Infected Mushroom]

By the way.

Putin isn't even in Moscow.

JUST IN CASE this escalates, he's not even in the city. He's in his bunker somewhere. (Though to be fair it may be a tactical command center that is incidentally not there).

That's really cool. I wonder what this bunker would look like and how many guards there would be.

[Saiwania]

That would be insane if Ukrainian forces in the east broke through and advanced on Moscow. I mean, they'd get annihilated, but it'd be an oh shit moment for sure

Russia is too far to try to advance through, why not try to seize Belarus instead if Ukraine had such an opening available? It is from where one axis of attack was from.

[Jerzylvania]

By the way.

Putin isn't even in Moscow.

JUST IN CASE this escalates, he's not even in the city. He's in his bunker somewhere. (Though to be fair it may be a tactical command center that is incidentally not there).

That's really cool. I wonder what this bunker would look like and how many guards there would be.

Not surprised at you.

[Kannap]

The US has stated they are prepared to evacuate Zelensky. Which presumably means a small number of US troops will enter the area if requested.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... ly-target/

Fortunately, they probably won't be requested.

The French embassy has also offered to take him in, but Zelensky seems like he's set on fighting to defend Kyiv and willing to risk his life instead of fleeing or hiding.

[Malaiya Union]

The US has stated they are prepared to evacuate Zelensky. Which presumably means a small number of US troops will enter the area if requested.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... ly-target/

Worryingly, the Prime Minister (the one next in line) is also still with him. This is a good plan to ensure continuation of government.

[Kowani]

Republicans/Conservatives in the US are predominately splitting into 3 main camps on this issue, with just one being anti-Russia.

The neo-cons or establishment are backing Ukraine and are against Russia's invasion, all the traditional "hawks" that favor more US/NATO interventionism.
You have the pro-Russia camp that is skeptical about criticism of Putin and instead see good things from him and what he represents.
Lastly, there is the "who cares" camp where there is belief that the US shouldn't get involved and is bewildered as to why Joe Biden/Democrats want to.

60% of Republicans support sanctioning Russia while only 25% say maintaining relations with Russia is more important that taking a stand to support Ukraine, 88% of Republican have unfavourable opinions of Russia

let's not pretend your little fashy friends are anything more than an outlier

[Mestovakia]

The US has stated they are prepared to evacuate Zelensky. Which presumably means a small number of US troops will enter the area if requested.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/20 ... ly-target/

Worryingly, the Prime Minister (the one next in line) is also still with him. This is a good plan to ensure continuation of government.

Do they really have anywhere to go? Russia will stop at nothing to capture/kill them.

[Wallenburg]

Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) calls for every Russian student in the US to be kicked out of the country
He was also supported by Rep. Ruben Gallego (D-AZ)


guess we found the pro-internment caucus

Yay, bipartisan brain rot.