The Invasion of Ukraine, Russia Threatens Finland/Sweden

[Space Squid]

Your comparison is far more far fetched.
But I agree Putin is not is not literally Hitler. That does not matter.

Napoleon and Karl XII were not. Dictatorships often make very bad decisions by their very nature.

Having no checks and balances and being surrounded by yes men clouds even the smartest mind.

And Putin seems quite okay becoming a pariah to the West. Because Beijing will still back him.
Making him only more dangerous.

*Could back him* you have no real idea of knowing what Beijing is planning for their attempt at becoming a world superpower

I don't know how it is you imagine that the Ukraine would follow in the footsteps of Nazi Germany without in any way resembling the conditions that created Nazi Germany: the Weimar Republic. So I assumed that this must be a part of your argument. Because if you were arguing anything else, that would be ridiculous. I may have given you too much credit.

Do you think that Nazis emerged fully formed out of the earth of countries that have recently lost a war? Like Uruk-hai?

Did Germany Loose a war? Yes
Were the Econmy and Goverment in Shambles? Yes
Was there an Ultra-Nationalist patrty that found a way to take power over a failing goverment? Yes

Now lets look at Ukraine

Is there a Possibility Ukraine will loose this war? A high one
Will their Econmy and Goverment be in shambles should they loose? Yes
Are there groups who seem to show 3rd Reich Tendencies in Ukraine and possibly have a wish to take power? Yes

Which means Facism in Ukraine is totally possible, But not once did I say it was likely.

By this view, Germany absolutely should have become Fascist after WWII, when they lost a war, their economy was in shambles, and there were a lot of Nazi-sympathizers roaming around.

Meanwhile Italy, the original Fascist power (Fascism has an "s" by the way), did not lose a war.

This is not a formula that actually works when you look at history.

[Adamede]

Don’t know if you’ve noticed but Ukraine isn’t the nation currently invading its neighbors.

Spain didnt invade their neighbors but somehow became facist

No meaningless because "simple things connect with complex things" is a string of words that communicates exactly nothing of relevance. To anything.

Your other point is insultingly simplistic and reductive. I thought I had made that clear by saying exactly those words, in that order.

It seems you dont understand what im trying to say... So bascially im saying Looking at history from a non complex standpoint can be effective when it comes to situations like this.

You didn’t compare Ukraine to Spain though. You compared it to Nazi Germany.

[Novus America]

Your comparison is far more far fetched.
But I agree Putin is not is not literally Hitler. That does not matter.

Napoleon and Karl XII were not. Dictatorships often make very bad decisions by their very nature.

Having no checks and balances and being surrounded by yes men clouds even the smartest mind.

And Putin seems quite okay becoming a pariah to the West. Because Beijing will still back him.
Making him only more dangerous.

*Could back him* you have no real idea of knowing what Beijing is planning for their attempt at becoming a world superpower

I don't know how it is you imagine that the Ukraine would follow in the footsteps of Nazi Germany without in any way resembling the conditions that created Nazi Germany: the Weimar Republic. So I assumed that this must be a part of your argument. Because if you were arguing anything else, that would be ridiculous. I may have given you too much credit.

Do you think that Nazis emerged fully formed out of the earth of countries that have recently lost a war? Like Uruk-hai?

Did Germany Loose a war? Yes
Were the Econmy and Goverment in Shambles? Yes
Was there an Ultra-Nationalist patrty that found a way to take power over a failing goverment? Yes

Now lets look at Ukraine

Is there a Possibility Ukraine will loose this war? A high one
Will their Econmy and Goverment be in shambles should they loose? Yes
Are there groups who seem to show 3rd Reich Tendencies in Ukraine and possibly have a wish to take power? Yes

Which means Facism in Ukraine is totally possible, But not once did I say it was likely.

I do not claim to know. That is not the point. We need to prepare for the possibilities and try to make the negative ones less likely.

That is being proactive.

[Cannot think of a name]

It’s at moments like these that I find myself after 15 minutes on social media I want to scream “get the fuck over yourself”. Not to people posting about it, but people posting about people posting about it.

I personally think noticing we have a substantial fifth column in our society who are prepared to back fascist imperialism because they hate their own civilization that much is worth talking about and needs to be addressed.

Posting about far-left anti-white misandrist hateful fuckwits who have dominated our discourse for the last 20 years finally going full mask off and taking note of it is a necessary step to finally purging them from polite society and driving them into the gutter where they belong. A huge reason for our declining hegemony as a civilization has been allowing these people to influence our society to the point where nations like Russia feel confident in taking action.

Russia invades Ukraine and within 5 minutes there's a thousand people talking about "US Imperialism" and someone posts "These fucking fifth column anti-west folk are a danger to our nations and need to be dealt with" and you cry "Get over yourself! Stop posting about people posting about it!".

No.

Enemies foreign AND domestic.

What else could you possibly be referring to? The conversation as I see it is people rambling about US imperialism, people pointing out Russian imperialism, and people pointing out "Russian imperialism, also fifth column".

Holy shit you find weird ways to tell on yourself. I didn't even know you were in this thread and...kinda don't give a shit about you, really. I hardly ever read your posts. That's not a flex, I'm certain plenty of people scroll by me as well. It's just a thing, can't read everybody.

This had fuckall to do about you but man did you take that ball and roll with it.

It was a generic comment I couldn't make on my own social media because I didn't feel like getting in a pissing contest with my colleagues. It was people saying bullshit like "Post about *current event* but strangely silent about *pet event they themselves haven't talked about but apparently were holding in reserve to 'shame' some vague unnamed person on the internet*" or "*current event* is happening but people *continuing to live their lives* feigned disgust and air of superiority"

But...you...wow. You just gotta be you. Fuck me that was weird.

[Kot Unduk]

I have a few friends in Ukraine, but is there anyone on this forum from there?

I haven’t been here in years, I can’t think of any. Have you been able to ask your friends if they’re alright?

They're in Kyiv. They took shelter somewhere, something about a feeling of imminent strike. One in Donbas who's fighting the Ukrainians. Don't know about him.

[Novus America]

Spain didnt invade their neighbors but somehow became facist
It seems you dont understand what im trying to say... So bascially im saying Looking at history from a non complex standpoint can be effective when it comes to situations like this.

You didn’t compare Ukraine to Spain though. You compared it to Nazi Germany.

Franco was not a Fascist anyways. While the Falange backed his regime they were never the most powerful faction and became more and more sidelined as his position became more secure.

[Holy Nacimerian Empire]

Spain didnt invade their neighbors but somehow became facist
It seems you dont understand what im trying to say... So bascially im saying Looking at history from a non complex standpoint can be effective when it comes to situations like this.

You didn’t compare Ukraine to Spain though. You compared it to Nazi Germany.

Which was a facist, State like Spain, when my point is that there is a posibility Ukraine can become facist Any facist nation can work in this situation

[Thermodolia]

Unfortunately it’s probably going to be flattened

Hopefully not. That would be an immeasurable loss for world, architecturally, historically and in the art world. There are irreplaceable structures in Kiev some over 1000 years old.

Yes the art that’s what matters

[Pasong Tirad]

Hopefully not. That would be an immeasurable loss for world, architecturally, historically and in the art world. There are irreplaceable structures in Kiev some over 1000 years old.

Yes the art that’s what matters

Kyiv is a ghost city, after all. Not a large metro area with 3 million people.

[Free Algerstonia]

Hopefully not. That would be an immeasurable loss for world, architecturally, historically and in the art world. There are irreplaceable structures in Kiev some over 1000 years old.

Yes the art that’s what matters

So you are admitting to being anti-art

[Shekelesh]

Muh Azov Battalion muh Right Sector

[GuessTheAltAccount]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60k3RcF-53o

This video from TYT hasn't aged well. They accused legacy media of scaremongering when it appears they were right all along about Russia invading.

In fairness, 99.99% of the time legacy media is just scaremongering, so it's not an unreasonable take to have.

Yeah, this.

The media's been full of shit on foreign threats all the time. Remember when the New York Times said Iraq had WMDs? So much for that. If anything, our complacency on the Russia threat is their fault for crying wolf all the god damn time.

On top of that, legacy media has corporate sponsors, including those that make military hardware, so they have a vested interest in pushing for war. TYT, for all its flaws, is at least funded by its audience, whose biases are a little more transparent.

It’s at moments like these that I find myself after 15 minutes on social media I want to scream “get the fuck over yourself”. Not to people posting about it, but people posting about people posting about it.

Care to specify what you're referring to?

[Holy Nacimerian Empire]

Yes the art that’s what matters

Kyiv is a ghost city, after all. Not a large metro area with 3 million people.

That does not negate the fact, that demolishing keiv would be demolishing the city that was the foundation for the russia we see today, Alot of history behind that city and it would suck to see it be reduced to a small town like ancient African cities like Timbucktu or Sokoto

[Dreria]

Muh Azov Battalion muh Right Sector

WAOW THIS IS A STRONG MESSAGE

[Gidirnist halzin]

Tell Putin to shove it up his ass.

Fuck Putin
Free Chechnya

[Holy Nacimerian Empire]

Tell Putin to shove it up his ass.

Fuck Putin
Free Chechnya

So you get banned and make a new account to do the exact thing you got banned for

[Cannot think of a name]

In fairness, 99.99% of the time legacy media is just scaremongering, so it's not an unreasonable take to have.

Yeah, this.

The media's been full of shit on foreign threats all the time. Remember when the New York Times said Iraq had WMDs? So much for that. If anything, our complacency on the Russia threat is their fault for crying wolf all the god damn time.

On top of that, legacy media has corporate sponsors, including those that make military hardware, so they have a vested interest in pushing for war. TYT, for all its flaws, is at least funded by its audience, whose biases are a little more transparent.

It’s at moments like these that I find myself after 15 minutes on social media I want to scream “get the fuck over yourself”. Not to people posting about it, but people posting about people posting about it.

Care to specify what you're referring to?

Empty vaguebook posting 'critiquing' things like sincerity, intent, or historical context without actually saying anything itself. Or making a remark about people posting anything that resembles them continuing to live their lives tagged with a bit of superiority and derision. 'With all that's going on you're still gonna talk about *something trivial* wish I could say I was surprised." That kind of empty post shit. Get the fuck over yourselves also vaguebook person...like I just said, it was vent because I couldn't say it on my social media without getting into a whole fucking thing with my colleagues and...hhhhh...who has the time for that bullshit. Whatever the event is, this kind of social media personality is there to tell you that you're experiencing it wrong or posting about it stylistically wrong.

[El Lazaro]

I haven’t been here in years, I can’t think of any. Have you been able to ask your friends if they’re alright?

They're in Kyiv. They took shelter somewhere, something about a feeling of imminent strike. One in Donbas who's fighting the Ukrainians. Don't know about him.

It seems like the strikes on Kyiv haven’t been too heavy, good that they’re alive and well. Staying in Donbas takes balls for sure, I imagine the fighting is especially bad on Ukraine’s side. I hope he’s ok anyways, that’s some terrifying shit that’s going on.

[Mendit Key]

Tell Putin to shove it up his ass.

The correct way to return his missive would be to fold it up and strap it to a Minuteman ICBM. To be shoved right up his backside. There should be no Munich 1938 or Poland 1939 redux. Better return fire now, before we are next in line to be chopped up and invaded.

[San Lumen]

Hopefully not. That would be an immeasurable loss for world, architecturally, historically and in the art world. There are irreplaceable structures in Kiev some over 1000 years old.

Yes the art that’s what matters

Did you miss the other things I mentioned?

[Nora Xent]

Tell Putin to shove it up his ass.

The correct way to return his missive would be to fold it up and strap it to a Minuteman ICBM. To be shoved right up his backside. There should be no Munich 1938 or Poland 1939 redux. Better return fire now, before we are next in line to be chopped up and invaded.

Good job! Now Washington D.C is now a pile of nuclear ashes. I hope you planned for a nuclear war.

[Free Algerstonia]

Yes the art that’s what matters

Did you miss the other things I mentioned?

you forgot to mention all the people that could die my boy

[Tarsonis]

The correct way to return his missive would be to fold it up and strap it to a Minuteman ICBM. To be shoved right up his backside. There should be no Munich 1938 or Poland 1939 redux. Better return fire now, before we are next in line to be chopped up and invaded.

Good job! Now Washington D.C is now a pile of nuclear ashes. I hope you planned for a nuclear war.

wouldn't be the first time that's happened.

[Holy Nacimerian Empire]

Did you miss the other things I mentioned?

you forgot to mention all the people that could die my boy

Its fair to assume you would know that already

[Mendit Key]

The correct way to return his missive would be to fold it up and strap it to a Minuteman ICBM. To be shoved right up his backside. There should be no Munich 1938 or Poland 1939 redux. Better return fire now, before we are next in line to be chopped up and invaded.

Good job! Now Washington D.C is now a pile of nuclear ashes. I hope you planned for a nuclear war.

They will do it anyway. Two months or a year from now. Munich 1938: "Let's not declare war on Germany, before they bomb London"... "Let's not be beastie to the Hun.." You don't negotiate with Nazi's and fascists. Ever. They cannot be reasoned with. That's what history has shown us. Or at least to those who paid attention in school. Mere sanctions did not stop Japan from bombing Pearl Harbor anyway.