American Politics IX: Winter is Coming

[Corrian]

They touch grass regularly. The White House has a lawn.

All the comms people just watch MSNBC 24/7 and make random statements in reaction to Rachel Maddow or whoever

Yeah, doubt that. This isn't the Trump administration.

[Great Algerstonia]

All the comms people just watch MSNBC 24/7 and make random statements in reaction to Rachel Maddow or whoever

Yeah, doubt that. This isn't the Trump administration.

Yes it is. Joe Biden is in reality Antidonald Trump made in a Chinese laboratory and has a mission to stop Donald Trump from saving America. So yes we are in a Trump administration

[Senkaku]

Blaming the population for their own policy failures while failing to take any meaningful steps to avert a crisis, callous disregard for human life, total inability to think about the implications of their inaction for people besides those they seek to punish— truly a distillation of the finest of Biden liberalism

To be honest, while I agree there hasn't been enough meaningful things done, I do not care at all about aggressive language against anti-vaxxers. If you're unvaccinated at this point, you're a complete idiot and you're just bringing this on yourself. Its just unfortunate they're taking others with them.

It’s not about a lack of aggressive language against anti-vaxxers, it’s about the White House not doing a goddamn thing to contain an outbreak of a variant that I can tell you from very unpleasant recent personal experience is quite good at infecting even the vaccinated— while Jen is dropping #PsakiBombs and laughing about the idea of providing Americans with free testing, Omicron is going to scythe through the population. Even if it’s “milder,” whatever that means, these transmission numbers are so insane that they’re going to cause deaths; and god knows what kind of variants we’ll have to deal with on the other side as it continues to mutate and spread, thanks to the American government’s total lack of interest in containing a disease that’s killed nearly a million people in a little under two years. Your glee at seeing anti-vaxxers being rhetorically punished is exactly what this out of touch clique of insulated, callous liberals wants to create with statements like this— a population interested in the type of language used to describe crisis, rather than policies to actually address solvable problems.

[-Astoria-]

Yeah, doubt that. This isn't the Trump administration.

Yes it is. Joe Biden is in reality Antidonald Trump made in a Chinese laboratory and has a mission to stop Donald Trump from saving America. So yes we are in a Trump administration

Imagine if it all ends in a Scooby Doo-style mask pulling.

[Sundiata]

Yes it is. Joe Biden is in reality Antidonald Trump made in a Chinese laboratory and has a mission to stop Donald Trump from saving America. So yes we are in a Trump administration

Imagine if it all ends in a Scooby Doo-style mask pulling.

He would've gotten away with it too if it weren't for those meddling libs.

[Maricarland]

What does that mean?

It means the white house needs to stop watching the news so much and go outside and take a walk or something because their attitude is out of control

It's also an ableist phrase. Here is an 11 minute video explaining how the phrase "go touch grass" is ableist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGFSJ3gv1kY

[Hemakral]

It means the white house needs to stop watching the news so much and go outside and take a walk or something because their attitude is out of control

It's also an ableist phrase. Here is an 11 minute video explaining how the phrase "go touch grass" is ableist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGFSJ3gv1kY

Only grass I'm touchin' is the kind you get from the back of a van, know what I'm saying

[Bear Stearns]

It means the white house needs to stop watching the news so much and go outside and take a walk or something because their attitude is out of control

It's also an ableist phrase. Here is an 11 minute video explaining how the phrase "go touch grass" is ableist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGFSJ3gv1kY

>post an 11 minute video of some weirdo explaining why a meme is ableist
>refuse to elaborate further

chad move

[Kowani]

Rep. Bob Sires (D-NY) to retire

[American Salvation]

It's also an ableist phrase. Here is an 11 minute video explaining how the phrase "go touch grass" is ableist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGFSJ3gv1kY

Yeah, it isn't ableist, and i really don't care what some embarrassment of a video has to say about it.

[Kowani]

Schumer says Senate will vote on revised House-passed version of Build Back Better and voting rights, warns of a potential rules change to allow voting rights to be debated

[Great Algerstonia]

It means the white house needs to stop watching the news so much and go outside and take a walk or something because their attitude is out of control

It's also an ableist phrase. Here is an 11 minute video explaining how the phrase "go touch grass" is ableist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGFSJ3gv1kY

Aomng Us

[The Jamesian Republic]

It's also an ableist phrase. Here is an 11 minute video explaining how the phrase "go touch grass" is ableist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGFSJ3gv1kY

Aomng Us

What are the odds that Great Algerstonia is actually the last king of Brazil but he’s a robot?

[Zurkerx]

Schumer says Senate will vote on revised House-passed version of Build Back Better and voting rights, warns of a potential rules change to allow voting rights to be debated

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Hmm, so he will do a vote on the BBB. That will put Manchin on the record then on both issues. It will fail but it's going to set the record straight on Manchin and maybe Sinema for sure.

[Zurkerx]

“There was a DOJ strategy, a state legislative strategy, a state election official strategy, the vice-president strategy. And there was the insurrection strategy:” Trump appears deeply unnerved as the Capitol Hill attack investigation closes in. He is upset and baffled why Meadows shared so much to the committee as well as why others are cooperating. He has also been perturbed by aides invoking the Fifth Amendment in depositions. To him, it makes them look weak and complicit in a crime and has said they are foolish for not following his orders like Bannon did to defy subpoenas. He has even bemoaned McCarthy as being incompetent for not putting Republicans on that committee to defend him (hint: he tried but Pelosi rejected most of his choices). He has denied any wrongdoing and while at the moment his associates aren't worry about criminal indictments, the committee seems to be heading towards an incriminating conclusion.

This comes as Adam Kinzinger said that the committee is examining whether Trump acted criminally in trying to obstruct the certification of the 2020 election results. He did not make a conclusion on that but while not surprising, this is the first we can confirm that they are, in fact, looking at criminal activity. Reportedly too, the DOJ is following the committee's work. Essentially, if prosecution does happen, prosecutors could use the text messages as evidence of criminal obstruction to stop a congressional proceeding if the White House knew election fraud claims to be lies but still used them to stop Biden’s certification. Of course, Trump and his allies have focused on trying to delegitimize the committee but that hasn't done much of anything really.

Speaking of delegitimizing, Trump is Suing the New York A.G. in Attempt to Stop the Inquiry Into His Business. That inquiry is a civil investigation but the AG is seeking to question the former president under oath next month. Trump claims he's being harassed and his Constitutional Rights are being violated. Simply put it, it's another stall technique that will likely fail. All that comes as the new Manhattan DA Alvin Briggs says he will focus on Trump investigations.

To conclude, Trump is feeling the heat and pressure from all sides and feels almost powerless to stop it, especially for how fast the expediting process has been with the courts.

[Lady Victory]

“There was a DOJ strategy, a state legislative strategy, a state election official strategy, the vice-president strategy. And there was the insurrection strategy:” Trump appears deeply unnerved as the Capitol Hill attack investigation closes in. He is upset and baffled why Meadows shared so much to the committee as well as why others are cooperating. He has also been perturbed by aides invoking the Fifth Amendment in depositions. To him, it makes them look weak and complicit in a crime and has said they are foolish for not following his orders like Bannon did to defy subpoenas. He has even bemoaned McCarthy as being incompetent for not putting Republicans on that committee to defend him (hint: he tried but Pelosi rejected most of his choices). He has denied any wrongdoing and while at the moment his associates aren't worry about criminal indictments, the committee seems to be heading towards an incriminating conclusion.

This comes as Adam Kinzinger said that the committee is examining whether Trump acted criminally in trying to obstruct the certification of the 2020 election results. He did not make a conclusion on that but while not surprising, this is the first we can confirm that they are, in fact, looking at criminal activity. Reportedly too, the DOJ is following the committee's work. Essentially, if prosecution does happen, prosecutors could use the text messages as evidence of criminal obstruction to stop a congressional proceeding if the White House knew election fraud claims to be lies but still used them to stop Biden’s certification. Of course, Trump and his allies have focused on trying to delegitimize the committee but that hasn't done much of anything really.

Speaking of delegitimizing, Trump is Suing the New York A.G. in Attempt to Stop the Inquiry Into His Business. That inquiry is a civil investigation but the AG is seeking to question the former president under oath next month. Trump claims he's being harassed and his Constitutional Rights are being violated. Simply put it, it's another stall technique that will likely fail. All that comes as the new Manhattan DA Alvin Briggs says he will focus on Trump investigations.

To conclude, Trump is feeling the heat and pressure from all sides and feels almost powerless to stop it, especially for how fast the expediting process has been with the courts.

Who knows, maybe Santa will make "Trump for Prison 2022" happen.

[The Reformed American Republic]

“There was a DOJ strategy, a state legislative strategy, a state election official strategy, the vice-president strategy. And there was the insurrection strategy:” Trump appears deeply unnerved as the Capitol Hill attack investigation closes in. He is upset and baffled why Meadows shared so much to the committee as well as why others are cooperating. He has also been perturbed by aides invoking the Fifth Amendment in depositions. To him, it makes them look weak and complicit in a crime and has said they are foolish for not following his orders like Bannon did to defy subpoenas. He has even bemoaned McCarthy as being incompetent for not putting Republicans on that committee to defend him (hint: he tried but Pelosi rejected most of his choices). He has denied any wrongdoing and while at the moment his associates aren't worry about criminal indictments, the committee seems to be heading towards an incriminating conclusion.

This comes as Adam Kinzinger said that the committee is examining whether Trump acted criminally in trying to obstruct the certification of the 2020 election results. He did not make a conclusion on that but while not surprising, this is the first we can confirm that they are, in fact, looking at criminal activity. Reportedly too, the DOJ is following the committee's work. Essentially, if prosecution does happen, prosecutors could use the text messages as evidence of criminal obstruction to stop a congressional proceeding if the White House knew election fraud claims to be lies but still used them to stop Biden’s certification. Of course, Trump and his allies have focused on trying to delegitimize the committee but that hasn't done much of anything really.

Speaking of delegitimizing, Trump is Suing the New York A.G. in Attempt to Stop the Inquiry Into His Business. That inquiry is a civil investigation but the AG is seeking to question the former president under oath next month. Trump claims he's being harassed and his Constitutional Rights are being violated. Simply put it, it's another stall technique that will likely fail. All that comes as the new Manhattan DA Alvin Briggs says he will focus on Trump investigations.

To conclude, Trump is feeling the heat and pressure from all sides and feels almost powerless to stop it, especially for how fast the expediting process has been with the courts.

Who knows, maybe Santa will make "Trump for Prison 2022" happen.

Prison is for commoners unfortunately.

[The Black Forrest]

Who knows, maybe Santa will make "Trump for Prison 2022" happen.

Prison is for commoners unfortunately.

They do have resort prisons. Trump will have withdrawals if he can’t play golf.

[Shrillland]

Another retirement, this one from Rep. Stephanie Murphy(D-Orlando-Sanford, FL)

This makes 32 House retirements, 22 Democrats and 10 Republicans

[Maricarland]

Prison is for commoners unfortunately.

They do have resort prisons. Trump will have withdrawals if he can’t play golf.

We should just do away with prisons altogether.

They do not keep people safe, but they do increase the harm and danger faced by people locked up in them.

They do not serve as a deterrent to crime in most circumstances.

They are fundamentally incapable of rehabilitating people because you cannot rehabilitate someone by segregating them from the community and traumatizing them with the experience of incarceration.

They are the source of many kinds of evils, such as prison labor, which is essentially slave labor (which is harmful to the prisoners, their families, and the local community as it depresses wages). Not to mention their environmental impact, their cost to state budgets (for little benefit, and that money could be better spent on forms of restorative and transformative justice), their use to suppress political dissidents.

Police and Prison will always protect private property (which is one of the core functions of the state) over human beings, and will always target whoever is marginalized in any given society (the people who are generally excluded from owning private property, the people who are the modern equivalent to serfs), be they marginalized due to race, ethnicity, immigrant status, religion or areligion, disability, mental illness, physical illness, sexuality and romanticism, sex, gender identity, gender presentation, class, political beliefs, etc...

A truly civilized society is a society that has figured out how to prevent harm, and respond to harm and address harm when they do occur (which should be rare), without resorting to torture, shaming, killing, locking people in cages, banishment, or other forms of retributive and punitive actions.

[Washington Resistance Army]

They do have resort prisons. Trump will have withdrawals if he can’t play golf.

We should just do away with prisons altogether.

They do not keep people safe, but they do increase the harm and danger faced by people locked up in them.

They do not serve as a deterrent to crime in most circumstances.

They are fundamentally incapable of rehabilitating people because you cannot rehabilitate someone by segregating them from the community and traumatizing them with the experience of incarceration.

They are the source of many kinds of evils, such as prison labor, which is essentially slave labor (which is harmful to the prisoners, their families, and the local community as it depresses wages). Not to mention their environmental impact, their cost to state budgets (for little benefit, and that money could be better spent on forms of restorative and transformative justice), their use to suppress political dissidents.

Police and Prison will always protect private property (which is one of the core functions of the state) over human beings, and will always target whoever is marginalized in any given society (the people who are generally excluded from owning private property, the people who are the modern equivalent to serfs), be they marginalized due to race, ethnicity, immigrant status, religion or areligion, disability, mental illness, physical illness, sexuality and romanticism, sex, gender identity, gender presentation, class, political beliefs, etc...

A truly civilized society is a society that has figured out how to prevent harm, and respond to harm and address harm when they do occur (which should be rare), without resorting to torture, shaming, killing, locking people in cages, banishment, or other forms of retributive and punitive actions.

This is still an unbelievably bad idea.

[Kowani]

Manchin’s other problem with BBB: He doesn’t trust poor people

After months of haggling with President Joe Biden and other Democrats, Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) dashed his party’s hopes on Sunday by announcing he wouldn’t vote for the Build Back Better legislation.
Publicly, his biggest gripes are about the cost of the bill. But privately, Manchin has told his colleagues that he essentially doesn’t trust low-income people to spend government money wisely.

In recent months, Manchin has told several of his fellow Democrats that he thought parents would waste monthly child tax credit payments on drugs instead of providing for their children, according to two sources familiar with the senator’s comments.
Continuing the child tax credit for another year is a core part of the Build Back Better legislation that Democrats had hoped to pass by the end of the year. The policy has already cut child poverty by nearly 30%.
Manchin’s private comments shocked several senators, who saw it as an unfair assault on his own constituents and those struggling to raise children in poverty.
Manchin has also told colleagues he believes that Americans would fraudulently use the proposed paid sick leave policy, specifically saying people would feign being sick and go on hunting trips, a source familiar with his comments told HuffPost.
Manchin’s office declined to comment for this story.
In a statement on Sunday, he said he opposed the Build Back Better agenda largely because of its cost.

[Prima Scriptura]

“There was a DOJ strategy, a state legislative strategy, a state election official strategy, the vice-president strategy. And there was the insurrection strategy:” Trump appears deeply unnerved as the Capitol Hill attack investigation closes in. He is upset and baffled why Meadows shared so much to the committee as well as why others are cooperating. He has also been perturbed by aides invoking the Fifth Amendment in depositions. To him, it makes them look weak and complicit in a crime and has said they are foolish for not following his orders like Bannon did to defy subpoenas. He has even bemoaned McCarthy as being incompetent for not putting Republicans on that committee to defend him (hint: he tried but Pelosi rejected most of his choices). He has denied any wrongdoing and while at the moment his associates aren't worry about criminal indictments, the committee seems to be heading towards an incriminating conclusion.

This comes as Adam Kinzinger said that the committee is examining whether Trump acted criminally in trying to obstruct the certification of the 2020 election results. He did not make a conclusion on that but while not surprising, this is the first we can confirm that they are, in fact, looking at criminal activity. Reportedly too, the DOJ is following the committee's work. Essentially, if prosecution does happen, prosecutors could use the text messages as evidence of criminal obstruction to stop a congressional proceeding if the White House knew election fraud claims to be lies but still used them to stop Biden’s certification. Of course, Trump and his allies have focused on trying to delegitimize the committee but that hasn't done much of anything really.

Speaking of delegitimizing, Trump is Suing the New York A.G. in Attempt to Stop the Inquiry Into His Business. That inquiry is a civil investigation but the AG is seeking to question the former president under oath next month. Trump claims he's being harassed and his Constitutional Rights are being violated. Simply put it, it's another stall technique that will likely fail. All that comes as the new Manhattan DA Alvin Briggs says he will focus on Trump investigations.

To conclude, Trump is feeling the heat and pressure from all sides and feels almost powerless to stop it, especially for how fast the expediting process has been with the courts.

I honestly think that Merrick Garland wants to follow and Gerald Ford’s footsteps and not charge Donald Trump with any crime on the federal level. He would rather Joe Biden pardon Trump and not have to deal with it at all. He either wants to move on from Trump(ism) and/or He’s worried about that charging him would result in a Civil War.

[Corrian]

Good thing Schumer is putting it to a vote still anyway so Manchin can tank progress on the record.

[Rusozak]

Manchin’s other problem with BBB: He doesn’t trust poor people

After months of haggling with President Joe Biden and other Democrats, Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) dashed his party’s hopes on Sunday by announcing he wouldn’t vote for the Build Back Better legislation.
Publicly, his biggest gripes are about the cost of the bill. But privately, Manchin has told his colleagues that he essentially doesn’t trust low-income people to spend government money wisely.

In recent months, Manchin has told several of his fellow Democrats that he thought parents would waste monthly child tax credit payments on drugs instead of providing for their children, according to two sources familiar with the senator’s comments.
Continuing the child tax credit for another year is a core part of the Build Back Better legislation that Democrats had hoped to pass by the end of the year. The policy has already cut child poverty by nearly 30%.
Manchin’s private comments shocked several senators, who saw it as an unfair assault on his own constituents and those struggling to raise children in poverty.
Manchin has also told colleagues he believes that Americans would fraudulently use the proposed paid sick leave policy, specifically saying people would feign being sick and go on hunting trips, a source familiar with his comments told HuffPost.
Manchin’s office declined to comment for this story.
In a statement on Sunday, he said he opposed the Build Back Better agenda largely because of its cost.

Why is Manchin a democrat again?