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It has been one year since Joe Biden assumed the presidency. How would you rate his performance?

Excellent: he has positively exceeded expectations and I am thrilled with his service to the people
5
3%
Good: he has met expectations and I am generally satisfied with his service to the people
12
7%
Decent: he has met some expectations though I could be happier with his service to the people
51
30%
Bad: he has yet to meet expectations and I am generally unsatisfied with his service to the people
36
21%
Abysmal: he has negatively exceeded expectations and I believe he may be unfit to serve the people
65
38%
 
Total votes : 169

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Daniel-Franklin
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Postby Daniel-Franklin » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:15 pm

Zurkerx wrote:Sinema has been censured by Arizona Democrats over her filibuster stance that blocked voting rights legislation.

Yeah, she's going to get primaried come 2024. Democratic voters and donors are not fond of her. She burned down her bridges.


Almost tempting to return to the party long enough to primary her. Almost. But as an independent, I can still opt for a Democratic ballot in AZ.
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Daniel-Franklin
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Postby Daniel-Franklin » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:16 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Daniel-Franklin wrote:
I just don't like people acting like the problem is just a Republican thing. That lets Democrats off way too easy.


Not sure how “here’s what makes these two specific individuals bad” is implying only Republicans do bad things.


All references to evil Republicans should be paired with "Democrats, suck, too." And vice versa. It's a healthy pairing, like a good dry Merlot with the right meal.

Both parties suck and people should get constant reminders of this until the people abandon the two-party system entirely.
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"I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ." - Mahatma Gandhi
"Some of these guys on the Right, anyone left of Attila the Hun, they're seeing Che Guevara." - Kyle Kulinski
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Umeria
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Postby Umeria » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:18 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Daniel-Franklin wrote:I just don't like people acting like the problem is just a Republican thing. That lets Democrats off way too easy.

Not sure how “here’s what makes these two specific individuals bad” is implying only Republicans do bad things.

Context is important. Obama openly said his policies are similar to a 1980s Republican (aka Reagan). Trump would never have won without Obama. They're all connected.
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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:19 pm

I’ve been working on a joke.

A socialist and a conservative sees Biden Pelosi Schumer etc.

“You are radical leftists!” The conservative shouts to them.
“Hahahahaha, that’s funny. Go to gulag.” The socialist says to them.

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Vystercia-Nasucrea
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Postby Vystercia-Nasucrea » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:20 pm

Umeria wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Not sure how “here’s what makes these two specific individuals bad” is implying only Republicans do bad things.

Context is important. Obama openly said his policies are similar to a 1980s Republican (aka Reagan). Trump would never have won without Obama. They're all connected.


There is a reason why black turnout dropped in inner cities in 2016. It wasn't just that Hillary was white, either.
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Lady Victory
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Postby Lady Victory » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:21 pm

Daniel-Franklin wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
And one that wasn’t strictly relevant since a “here’s what made Reagan and Trump bad” doesn’t really call for a “BUT OBAMA”.


I just don't like people acting like the problem is just a Republican thing. That lets Democrats off way too easy.


Okay but I wasn't really doing that. I was pointing out why the three assbags that particular poster seemed to admire were, well, assbags.
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Vystercia-Nasucrea
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Postby Vystercia-Nasucrea » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:21 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:I’ve been working on a joke.

A socialist and a conservative sees Biden Pelosi Schumer etc.

“You are radical leftists!” The conservative shouts to them.
“Hahahahaha, that’s funny. Go to gulag.” The socialist says to them.


A Communist might, but not all socialists are Reds. :lol:
"In choosing myself, I choose man." Jean-Paul Sartre
"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people." - V from V For Vendetta
"What usually happens when people without guns stand up to people with guns." - Inspector Finch from V For Vendetta
"So, this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause." - Padme Amidala from Revenge of the Sith

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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:22 pm

Vystercia-Nasucrea wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:I’ve been working on a joke.

A socialist and a conservative sees Biden Pelosi Schumer etc.

“You are radical leftists!” The conservative shouts to them.
“Hahahahaha, that’s funny. Go to gulag.” The socialist says to them.


A Communist might, but not all socialists are Reds. :lol:


True. Though the general point is actual leftists don’t claim them.
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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:23 pm

Vystercia-Nasucrea wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:I’ve been working on a joke.

A socialist and a conservative sees Biden Pelosi Schumer etc.

“You are radical leftists!” The conservative shouts to them.
“Hahahahaha, that’s funny. Go to gulag.” The socialist says to them.


A Communist might, but not all socialists are Reds. :lol:

I'd put every last Republican congressentity in a camp to farm taters for the greater good of the United States and I'm not even a full-blown Leninist.

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Lady Victory
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Postby Lady Victory » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:23 pm

Vystercia-Nasucrea wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:I’ve been working on a joke.

A socialist and a conservative sees Biden Pelosi Schumer etc.

“You are radical leftists!” The conservative shouts to them.
“Hahahahaha, that’s funny. Go to gulag.” The socialist says to them.


A Communist might, but not all socialists are Reds. :lol:


...What.
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"Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country."
"Fascism is not to be debated, it is to be destroyed!"


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Vystercia-Nasucrea
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Postby Vystercia-Nasucrea » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:23 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Vystercia-Nasucrea wrote:
A Communist might, but not all socialists are Reds. :lol:


True. Though the general point is actual leftists don’t like them.


Indeed. They're corrupt party hacks, nothing more than that, though Schumer has been a little wiser than the others so far.
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"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people." - V from V For Vendetta
"What usually happens when people without guns stand up to people with guns." - Inspector Finch from V For Vendetta
"So, this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause." - Padme Amidala from Revenge of the Sith

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Eahland
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Postby Eahland » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:24 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:I’ve been working on a joke.

A socialist and a conservative sees Biden Pelosi Schumer etc.

“You are radical leftists!” The conservative shouts to them.
“Hahahahaha, that’s funny. Go to gulag.” The socialist says to them.

So, the thing about jokes is, they're funny.
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Vystercia-Nasucrea
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Postby Vystercia-Nasucrea » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:24 pm

Lady Victory wrote:
Vystercia-Nasucrea wrote:
A Communist might, but not all socialists are Reds. :lol:


...What.


Simply that being leftist doesn't mean gulags and bread lines. And we're not doing the show trials with kangaroo courts. That's colleges.
"In choosing myself, I choose man." Jean-Paul Sartre
"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people." - V from V For Vendetta
"What usually happens when people without guns stand up to people with guns." - Inspector Finch from V For Vendetta
"So, this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause." - Padme Amidala from Revenge of the Sith

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:25 pm

Vystercia-Nasucrea wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
...What.


Simply that being leftist doesn't mean gulags and bread lines. And we're not doing the show trials with kangaroo courts. That's colleges.

Nah I'd totally struggle session Donald Trump. <.< >.>

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Jinggangshan
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Postby Jinggangshan » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:25 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Vystercia-Nasucrea wrote:
A Communist might, but not all socialists are Reds. :lol:

I'd put every last Republican congressentity in a camp to farm taters for the greater good of the United States and I'm not even a full-blown Leninist.


True, if you were you'd have to have the Cheka shoot them in the cellar. :rofl:
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Lady Victory
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Postby Lady Victory » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:26 pm

Vystercia-Nasucrea wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
...What.


Simply that being leftist doesn't mean gulags and bread lines. And we're not doing the show trials with kangaroo courts. That's colleges.


Okay but saying "not all Socialists are Reds" is weird because, uh, yeah we are. "Red" is any Leftist.
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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:26 pm

Jinggangshan wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I'd put every last Republican congressentity in a camp to farm taters for the greater good of the United States and I'm not even a full-blown Leninist.


True, if you were you'd have to have the Cheka shoot them in the cellar. :rofl:

So uncivilised.

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Lady Victory
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Postby Lady Victory » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:28 pm

Jinggangshan wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I'd put every last Republican congressentity in a camp to farm taters for the greater good of the United States and I'm not even a full-blown Leninist.


True, if you were you'd have to have the Cheka shoot them in the cellar. :rofl:


Idk man Romanoving every CEO in America has a certain appeal to it...

:p
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"Ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country."
"Fascism is not to be debated, it is to be destroyed!"


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Jinggangshan
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Postby Jinggangshan » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:28 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Jinggangshan wrote:
True, if you were you'd have to have the Cheka shoot them in the cellar. :rofl:

So uncivilised.


But ever so effective.
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Postby Vystercia-Nasucrea » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:29 pm

Lady Victory wrote:
Vystercia-Nasucrea wrote:
Simply that being leftist doesn't mean gulags and bread lines. And we're not doing the show trials with kangaroo courts. That's colleges.


Okay but saying "not all Socialists are Reds" is weird because, uh, yeah we are. "Red" is any Leftist.


I associated that with Leninists myself. Well, red flags. Red roses and red fists not so much.
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"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people." - V from V For Vendetta
"What usually happens when people without guns stand up to people with guns." - Inspector Finch from V For Vendetta
"So, this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause." - Padme Amidala from Revenge of the Sith

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Greater Miami Shores 3
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:29 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Vystercia-Nasucrea wrote:
A Communist might, but not all socialists are Reds. :lol:

I'd put every last Republican congressentity in a camp to farm taters for the greater good of the United States and I'm not even a full-blown Leninist.

Would you do the same to the Democrats? In Cuba it would be cutting sugar cane, if you can find any left.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:30 pm

Lady Victory wrote:
Vystercia-Nasucrea wrote:
Simply that being leftist doesn't mean gulags and bread lines. And we're not doing the show trials with kangaroo courts. That's colleges.


Okay but saying "not all Socialists are Reds" is weird because, uh, yeah we are. "Red" is any Leftist.

So by 'Red' they mean ML's I guess.
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Vystercia-Nasucrea
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Postby Vystercia-Nasucrea » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:30 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
Okay but saying "not all Socialists are Reds" is weird because, uh, yeah we are. "Red" is any Leftist.

So by 'Red' they mean ML's I guess.


This. I associated "pink" with non-Leninist leftists.
"In choosing myself, I choose man." Jean-Paul Sartre
"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people." - V from V For Vendetta
"What usually happens when people without guns stand up to people with guns." - Inspector Finch from V For Vendetta
"So, this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause." - Padme Amidala from Revenge of the Sith

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:31 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I'd put every last Republican congressentity in a camp to farm taters for the greater good of the United States and I'm not even a full-blown Leninist.

Would you do the same to the Democrats? In Cuba it would be cutting sugar cane, if you can find any left.

Yes.
Also sugar cane is bourgeoisie luxury on the level of "Let them eat brioche". Potatoes are what real men lives on.

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Lady Victory
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Postby Lady Victory » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:32 pm

Vystercia-Nasucrea wrote:
Genivaria wrote:So by 'Red' they mean ML's I guess.


This. I associated "pink" with non-Leninist leftists.


Man but I hate pink...

Although I'm not a fan of red either.

Wish Leftists had gone with blue instead.

*sigh* :(
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"Fascism is not to be debated, it is to be destroyed!"


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