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It has been one year since Joe Biden assumed the presidency. How would you rate his performance?

Excellent: he has positively exceeded expectations and I am thrilled with his service to the people
5
3%
Good: he has met expectations and I am generally satisfied with his service to the people
12
7%
Decent: he has met some expectations though I could be happier with his service to the people
51
30%
Bad: he has yet to meet expectations and I am generally unsatisfied with his service to the people
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21%
Abysmal: he has negatively exceeded expectations and I believe he may be unfit to serve the people
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38%
 
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:42 am

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Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:There was a violent protest, they have been tried or are being tried in a US Court of Law. There was a peaceful protest by the majority of Persons at the Trump Rally, like by my Republican, Cuban and American friends at the Trump Rally, American Vietnam Combat Veterans of the Army, Navy, Air Force and US Marines. One of them is a Cuban American Republican Politician within the Republican Party. I wish I could have gone with them and I was there in spirits with them. It is ridiculous to attempt a coup d'état, against the Capitol Police, the US government and the Armed Forces of the USA, with 500 or so violent right wingers. There are no emails and texts stating, Lets overthrow the US government.


Then who was there? What really happened?

I said there was a violent protest by x number of Republicans right wingers, I don't deny it and I condemn them for it. But it is not a coup d'état, against the Capitol Police, the US government and the Armed Forces of the USA, with 500 or so violent right wingers. If so if I can gather 500 or so right wing supporters, and I can be dictator of the USA, lol, :) :rofl: any person can gather 500 or so supporters and be dictator of the USA, lol, :) :rofl: GMS.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:43 am

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:43 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
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Then who was there? What really happened?

I said there was a violent protest by x number of Republicans right wingers, I don't deny it and I condemn them for it. But it is not a coup d'état, against the Capitol Police, the US government and the Armed Forces of the USA, with 500 or so violent right wingers. If so if I can gather 500 or so right wing supporters, I can be dictator of the USA, lol, :) :rofl: any person can gather 500 or so supporters and be dictator of the USA, lol, :) :rofl: GMS.


If it wasn’t a coup what were they attempting to do?

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:44 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
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Then who was there? What really happened?

I said there was a violent protest by x number of Republicans right wingers, I don't deny it and I condemn them for it. But it is not a coup d'état, against the Capitol Police, the US government and the Armed Forces of the USA, with 500 or so violent right wingers. If so if I can gather 500 or so right wing supporters, I can be dictator of the USA, lol, :) :rofl: any person can gather 500 or so supporters and be dictator of the USA, lol, :) :rofl: GMS.


Ok I understand now.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:45 am

GMS saying that there aren't any texts or emails showing people planning to overthrow the government is pretty compelling evidence that in fact there are many such texts and emails.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:52 am

Ifreann wrote:GMS saying that there aren't any texts or emails showing people planning to overthrow the government is pretty compelling evidence that in fact there are many such texts and emails.

Democrats used the same, similar and exact words the Republicans used to challenge past election results of certified votes in favor of Democrats. It is one thing to say, lets try to find ways to overturn the election results in congress, they consider a fraud election, it is not a crime to do so. It is a different thing to say, lets overthrow the US government. GMS.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:53 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Ifreann wrote:GMS saying that there aren't any texts or emails showing people planning to overthrow the government is pretty compelling evidence that in fact there are many such texts and emails.

Democrats used the same, similar and exact words the Republicans used to challenge past election results of certified votes in favor of Democrats. It is one thing to say, lets try to find ways to overturn the election results in congress, it is not a crime to do so. It is a different thing to say, lets overthrow the US government. GMS.


They did not attempt to stop the certification via an insurrection.

You have yet to present your proof of fraud that wasn’t presented in court. Even Trump appointed Judges dismissed the lawsuits.
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Postby Picairn » Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:20 am

Ifreann wrote:GMS saying that there aren't any texts or emails showing people planning to overthrow the government is pretty compelling evidence that in fact there are many such texts and emails.

We have a literal PowerPoint plan and GMS will still deny it. https://www.businessinsider.com/powerpo ... rt-2021-12
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Dec 16, 2021 8:24 am

Picairn wrote:
Ifreann wrote:GMS saying that there aren't any texts or emails showing people planning to overthrow the government is pretty compelling evidence that in fact there are many such texts and emails.

We have a literal PowerPoint plan and GMS will still deny it. https://www.businessinsider.com/powerpo ... rt-2021-12


He’s like my uncle who thinks the election was stolen and the insurrection was no big deal. Many Republicans think as they both do.

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Postby Lady Victory » Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:23 am

Picairn wrote:
Ifreann wrote:GMS saying that there aren't any texts or emails showing people planning to overthrow the government is pretty compelling evidence that in fact there are many such texts and emails.

We have a literal PowerPoint plan and GMS will still deny it. https://www.businessinsider.com/powerpo ... rt-2021-12


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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:42 am

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I think you’re being too kind. Any congress member that participated in this attempted coup deserves capital punishment.

Would that be capitol capital punishment?


Crucifixion.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:45 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
Woah! Based alert!


Really! I’m based! Yay!


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Not anymore.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:47 am

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Ifreann wrote:GMS saying that there aren't any texts or emails showing people planning to overthrow the government is pretty compelling evidence that in fact there are many such texts and emails.

Democrats used the same, similar and exact words the Republicans used to challenge past election results of certified votes in favor of Democrats. It is one thing to say, lets try to find ways to overturn the election results in congress, they consider a fraud election, it is not a crime to do so. It is a different thing to say, lets overthrow the US government. GMS.


Did they now. What dates did they try to force the change of the results.

You are doing what is called “grabbing at straws”

Just accept it. Your hero is anti-democracy.
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Dec 16, 2021 10:48 am

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Israel has a right to exist as a nation. They are a valuable ally as an offering intelligence. They also protect religious sites that anyone can go to.

I guess you don't really know that much about Israel, do you?

Speaking about Israel the legislature there is just one step away from allowing police the right to enter any Arab home or building without the need for a warrant.

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu Dec 16, 2021 10:55 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Galloism wrote:Would that be capitol capital punishment?


Crucifixion.


That violates the 8th amendment.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Thu Dec 16, 2021 11:33 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:Democrats used the same, similar and exact words the Republicans used to challenge past election results of certified votes in favor of Democrats. It is one thing to say, lets try to find ways to overturn the election results in congress, they consider a fraud election, it is not a crime to do so. It is a different thing to say, lets overthrow the US government. GMS.


Did they now. What dates did they try to force the change of the results.

You are doing what is called “grabbing at straws”

Just accept it. Your hero is anti-democracy.

You are all entitled to your opinions, so am I and so are we. We are all on NS to share our views on all issues.
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Postby Diahon » Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:26 pm


so wyden's ctc rider not included, huh

is it going to be tackled before it expires by yearend, or...?

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:53 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Did they now. What dates did they try to force the change of the results.

You are doing what is called “grabbing at straws”

Just accept it. Your hero is anti-democracy.

You are all entitled to your opinions, so am I and so are we. We are all on NS to share our views on all issues.


You keep calling facts you disagree with opinions. There is no such thing as alternative facts.

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Postby -Astoria- » Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:56 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Crucifixion.


That violates the 8th amendment.

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As does capital punishment in general, but apparently that's a-OK.
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Postby American Legionaries » Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:03 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:You are all entitled to your opinions, so am I and so are we. We are all on NS to share our views on all issues.


You keep calling facts you disagree with opinions. There is no such thing as alternative facts.


Sure there are, they're called lies.

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Postby Lamoni » Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:05 pm

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Terrible for who?

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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:07 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Did they now. What dates did they try to force the change of the results.

You are doing what is called “grabbing at straws”

Just accept it. Your hero is anti-democracy.

You are all entitled to your opinions, so am I and so are we. We are all on NS to share our views on all issues.


That is a very good non-answer. Even then; you can share your views and opinions. They are just wrong a great deal of the time and get challenged.

You see…you can copy paste your answers a billion times. Doesn’t make it right and it never will.
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Dec 16, 2021 1:09 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Crucifixion.


That violates the 8th amendment.


Not it doesn’t. It’s not unusual if its been used before.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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