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Postby Punished UMN » Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:17 am

The Holy Therns wrote:Is Putin feeling small in the pants again?

What's even supposed to be the internal logic behind comments like this? Would a more masculine man simply allow his country to lose geopolitical conflicts with the United States?
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Postby Limonovshchina » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:08 am

Punished UMN wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:Is Putin feeling small in the pants again?

What's even supposed to be the internal logic behind comments like this? Would a more masculine man simply allow his country to lose geopolitical conflicts with the United States?

Overcompensating an underwhelming undercarriage is a joke which never fails to deliver. It's right up there with toilet humor.

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All insults at people's masculinity really shows is that the sexual revolution went completely nowhere since we still believe in these stupid memes.
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Postby Allied Iran » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:16 am

I don't think it's likely that a military conflict will start. This is probably more of saber rattling, but quite frankly my position is the same it was when they invaded and began to occupy Crimea, and it's that the full might of the US and its allies, economic, diplomatic and if necessary military, should ensure that Russia does not encroach on Ukrainian territories. Just as Russia has nukes, the US and two of its European allies do, Russia isn't going to escalate it into an all-out war if they are shown they won't be able to get away with it.

Still, given how poorly his diplomatic bouts with other rivals is going, I wouldn't be surprised if Biden gave Putin the green light full Chamberlain style even without the flimsy Peace in Our Time justification.
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Postby Blessed Regent Sergey Taboritsky » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:17 am

It isn't THAT big of a deal once you think about it. The United States literally invades every fucking Middle Eastern country in the name of "democracy". The only reason America and as a result, NATO, cares is because it threatens America's superiority complex. Lets not forget that Americans'd rather complain about this than their own trapped in Afghanistan because of their president's blatant incompetence.

Not even Ukrainians like Ukraine, that's why there's insurrections in the first place. Hell, America only ever got its independence because the colonists revolted. They didn't like Britain, just as those in charge of Donetsk and Luhansk don't like the Ukrainian state that protects neo-Nazis.
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Postby Rio Cana » Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:16 pm

How about a ethnolingusitic map of Ukraine which could help explain part of the problem.

Map - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... kraine.png

If the Russians incorporated all the Ukrainian Russian language speakers into Russia then Ukraine would become landlocked. If they did something like that it would most likely even include the Moldovan breakaway region of Transnistria.
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Postby Kaiserholt » Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:20 pm

I think it is unwise for Russia and Belarus to goad nations like Poland into anger with the conveniently timed "refugee" wave at the same time they're building up on the Ukrainian border.
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Postby Immortan Khan » Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:32 pm

Kaiserholt wrote:I think it is unwise for Russia and Belarus to goad nations like Poland into anger with the conveniently timed "refugee" wave at the same time they're building up on the Ukrainian border.

Poland really can't do much to stop Russia from invading Ukraine.
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Postby Rio Cana » Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:41 pm

Immortan Khan wrote:
Kaiserholt wrote:I think it is unwise for Russia and Belarus to goad nations like Poland into anger with the conveniently timed "refugee" wave at the same time they're building up on the Ukrainian border.

Poland really can't do much to stop Russia from invading Ukraine.


A Russian invasion of Ukraine would create a security problem for Poland, the Baltic nations and Romania. Poland would have to act. They remember they have at least twice been erased from European maps. Chances are Romania would get involved at least up to the Dniester river. You know, save Moldova from a possible Russian invasion and thus create the conditions for Moldova to reunite with Romania.

Has for the Baltic states, they really can not do much.
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:42 pm

I'm getting tired of this suspense please start the invasion
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Postby Rio Cana » Fri Dec 03, 2021 4:51 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:I'm getting tired of this suspense please start the invasion


It would be bad for Russian gas sales to Europe which is worth $1,811.6 billion Rubles which means chances its a no go.

Almost $74 Russian Rubles is equal to $1 US dollar.
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Postby Kaiserholt » Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:40 pm

Immortan Khan wrote:
Kaiserholt wrote:I think it is unwise for Russia and Belarus to goad nations like Poland into anger with the conveniently timed "refugee" wave at the same time they're building up on the Ukrainian border.

Poland really can't do much to stop Russia from invading Ukraine.

Ukraine has done well enough for themselves over the last couple years. Adding even one other nation to the mix, especially when it will act against Russia, is not something that should be downplayed.
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Postby Kaiserholt » Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:41 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:I'm getting tired of this suspense please start the invasion

Didn't the invasion begin in 2014?
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Postby Kaiserholt » Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:43 pm

Rio Cana wrote:
Great Algerstonia wrote:I'm getting tired of this suspense please start the invasion


It would be bad for Russian gas sales to Europe which is worth $1,811.6 billion Rubles which means chances its a no go.

Almost $74 Russian Rubles is equal to $1 US dollar.

To be honest, the EU's actions toward the Russian natural gas trade makes it appear to an outsider that Europe is as dependent upon Russia as Russia is dependent upon Europe.
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Postby Immortan Khan » Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:51 pm

Rio Cana wrote:
Immortan Khan wrote:Poland really can't do much to stop Russia from invading Ukraine.


A Russian invasion of Ukraine would create a security problem for Poland, the Baltic nations and Romania. Poland would have to act. They remember they have at least twice been erased from European maps. Chances are Romania would get involved at least up to the Dniester river. You know, save Moldova from a possible Russian invasion and thus create the conditions for Moldova to reunite with Romania.

Has for the Baltic states, they really can not do much.

Which still really wouldn't amount to much. Only the Poles have a decent military but even they know they could never take on the Russian military without direct intervention from the US and other W. European allies. If the Polish shoots first, they cannot call in NATO.
Kaiserholt wrote:Ukraine has done well enough for themselves over the last couple years. Adding even one other nation to the mix, especially when it will act against Russia, is not something that should be downplayed.
They were somewhat decent when the Donbass groups were still lacking in a lot of equipment and were not receiving direct Russian assistance. Once the Russians stepped in, the Ukrainians were pushed back and lost entire brigades worth of men. That was with the Russians barely intervening and unofficially doing so. The Ukrainians could never stop the Russians and neither could the Poles.
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Postby The Hazar Amisnery » Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:55 pm

Why do they just sit their and threaten each other? If you're gonna potentially end the world, potentially end the world! Quick war's a good war.
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Postby Kaiserholt » Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:09 pm

Immortan Khan wrote:
Kaiserholt wrote:Ukraine has done well enough for themselves over the last couple years. Adding even one other nation to the mix, especially when it will act against Russia, is not something that should be downplayed.
They were somewhat decent when the Donbass groups were still lacking in a lot of equipment and were not receiving direct Russian assistance. Once the Russians stepped in, the Ukrainians were pushed back and lost entire brigades worth of men. That was with the Russians barely intervening and unofficially doing so. The Ukrainians could never stop the Russians and neither could the Poles.

The European Union not letting Ukraine into the EU is one thing. The EU letting Ukraine be overrun in an act of aggression is another. There is a reason why the EU has allowed Poland to resist the "refugee" waves from Belarus, despite the EU allowing the flow from Turkey.
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Postby Kaiserholt » Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:11 pm

The Hazar Amisnery wrote:Why do they just sit their and threaten each other? If you're gonna potentially end the world, potentially end the world! Quick war's a good war.

No, that would be against the laws of Fallout. The Great War isn't for another couple decades. I still don't have my power armor or Vault suits.
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:12 pm

Kaiserholt wrote:
Great Algerstonia wrote:I'm getting tired of this suspense please start the invasion

Didn't the invasion begin in 2014?

Fine. I want Invasion 2 to start
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Postby Ansarullah » Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:15 pm

I've said this before, but it's nothing but Russia demonstrating it's willingness to defend Russians oppressed by the Ukrainian government and the West.
And, again repeating myself, you don't see the media whining when the US sails their warships a couple dozen kilometers off Chinese waters, when their bombers fly over Russian airspace, or when they bomb a sovereign nation (Syria) for "war crimes" that they themselves have done in the nation literally right next to them not even a decade ago (Iraq).
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Postby Kaiserholt » Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:26 pm

Ansarullah wrote:I've said this before, but it's nothing but Russia demonstrating it's willingness to defend Russians oppressed by the Ukrainian government and the West.
And, again repeating myself, you don't see the media whining when the US sails their warships a couple dozen kilometers off Chinese waters, when their bombers fly over Russian airspace, or when they bomb a sovereign nation (Syria) for "war crimes" that they themselves have done in the nation literally right next to them not even a decade ago (Iraq).

And to think, eighty-three years ago, Neville Chamberlain said "peace in our time." I guess Europe really doesn't learn from their lessons.
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Postby Ansarullah » Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:32 pm

And to think, eighty-three years ago, Neville Chamberlain said "peace in our time." I guess Europe really doesn't learn from their lessons.

It's ironic. The same people who call out for peace, like Neville and Biden, are the same people who start these wars in the first place.
It's even close to the same situation. When the USSR fell, US-funded nationalists expelled Russians from the land they'd lived in for centuries (even though they had nothing to do with the crimes of the USSR and it's attempts to establish an ethnostate, or the crimes of the Tsardom), which is why this conflict even exists.
When the Kaiserreich fell, the Allied-funded nationalists either expelled Germans from their native land in Silesia, Bohemia Danzig etc. or just pretended they didn't exist.
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Postby The Hazar Amisnery » Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:57 pm

Kaiserholt wrote:
The Hazar Amisnery wrote:Why do they just sit their and threaten each other? If you're gonna potentially end the world, potentially end the world! Quick war's a good war.

No, that would be against the laws of Fallout. The Great War isn't for another couple decades. I still don't have my power armor or Vault suits.

Well unfortunately we missed our mark to become the fallout universe hundreds of years ago and I don't russia will nuke ukraine anyway since they probably want the land to remain intact
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Postby Allied Iran » Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:31 pm

Ansarullah wrote:
And to think, eighty-three years ago, Neville Chamberlain said "peace in our time." I guess Europe really doesn't learn from their lessons.

It's ironic. The same people who call out for peace, like Neville and Biden, are the same people who start these wars in the first place.
It's even close to the same situation. When the USSR fell, US-funded nationalists expelled Russians from the land they'd lived in for centuries (even though they had nothing to do with the crimes of the USSR and it's attempts to establish an ethnostate, or the crimes of the Tsardom), which is why this conflict even exists.
When the Kaiserreich fell, the Allied-funded nationalists either expelled Germans from their native land in Silesia, Bohemia Danzig etc. or just pretended they didn't exist.

It wasn't when the "Kaiserreich" fell, it was when the Nazi Germany fell... and it is exactly for that very same reason that there shouldn't be one Russian speaker in any country that isn't currently within the internationally-accepted borders of Russia. Russians can't be trusted not to start genocidal wars of expansion based on the rights of those they themselves sent to colonize other people's countries.
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Postby Prima Scriptura » Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:41 pm

Seeing Putin’s plan on inviting and annexing Ukraine, I don’t blame Poland for protecting their borders from Belarusians. It is obvious that Putin wants to retake the eastern bloc and reform the Warsaw pac.
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