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Postby Ansarullah » Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:43 pm

It wasn't when the "Kaiserreich" fell, it was when the Nazi Germany fell.

I'm not referring to WW2. That's an entirely different situation and I'm not risking getting another forum ban for voicing my opinion on that like the last time I did so. I meant WW1.
and it is exactly for that very same reason that there shouldn't be one Russian speaker in any country that isn't currently within the internationally-accepted borders of Russia. Russians can't be trusted not to start genocidal wars of expansion based on the rights of those they themselves sent to colonize other people's countries.

1: That's just blatantly racist.
2: You're judging every Russian based off the foreign policy of their government.
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Postby Benin-Wuri » Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:53 pm

Allied Iran wrote:and it is exactly for that very same reason that there shouldn't be one Russian speaker in any country that isn't currently within the internationally-accepted borders of Russia.

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Postby Allied Iran » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:21 pm

Ansarullah wrote:
It wasn't when the "Kaiserreich" fell, it was when the Nazi Germany fell.

I'm not referring to WW2. That's an entirely different situation and I'm not risking getting another forum ban for voicing my opinion on that like the last time I did so. I meant WW1.
and it is exactly for that very same reason that there shouldn't be one Russian speaker in any country that isn't currently within the internationally-accepted borders of Russia. Russians can't be trusted not to start genocidal wars of expansion based on the rights of those they themselves sent to colonize other people's countries.

1: That's just blatantly racist.
2: You're judging every Russian based off the foreign policy of their government.
And Germans weren't expelled from "Danzig, Bohemia, Silesia, etc." after the German defeat in the First World War. The only period widespread population exchange happened between Germany and Eastern Europe is the immediate period following WWII.
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Postby Limonovshchina » Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:21 am

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Ansarullah wrote:It's ironic. The same people who call out for peace, like Neville and Biden, are the same people who start these wars in the first place.
It's even close to the same situation. When the USSR fell, US-funded nationalists expelled Russians from the land they'd lived in for centuries (even though they had nothing to do with the crimes of the USSR and it's attempts to establish an ethnostate, or the crimes of the Tsardom), which is why this conflict even exists.
When the Kaiserreich fell, the Allied-funded nationalists either expelled Germans from their native land in Silesia, Bohemia Danzig etc. or just pretended they didn't exist.

It wasn't when the "Kaiserreich" fell, it was when the Nazi Germany fell... and it is exactly for that very same reason that there shouldn't be one Russian speaker in any country that isn't currently within the internationally-accepted borders of Russia. Russians can't be trusted not to start genocidal wars of expansion based on the rights of those they themselves sent to colonize other people's countries.

By that ridiculous logic, all Europeans aside from the Uralic peoples cannot be trusted not to do so, if we look at the history of European nations. In fact, it would seem to me that imperial conquest, slavery and genocide is very Indo-European and all the other peoples of the world require banding together to resist this menace.

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Postby Haganham » Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:37 am

Limonovshchina wrote:
Immortan Khan wrote:Ukraine isn't part of NATO.

Moreover, Ukraine would have to apparently clean house before being admitted into NATO in the first place, as hilarious as that sounds coming from America.

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Postby South Reinkalistan » Sat Dec 04, 2021 7:56 am

Allied Iran wrote:
Ansarullah wrote:It's ironic. The same people who call out for peace, like Neville and Biden, are the same people who start these wars in the first place.
It's even close to the same situation. When the USSR fell, US-funded nationalists expelled Russians from the land they'd lived in for centuries (even though they had nothing to do with the crimes of the USSR and it's attempts to establish an ethnostate, or the crimes of the Tsardom), which is why this conflict even exists.
When the Kaiserreich fell, the Allied-funded nationalists either expelled Germans from their native land in Silesia, Bohemia Danzig etc. or just pretended they didn't exist.

It wasn't when the "Kaiserreich" fell, it was when the Nazi Germany fell... and it is exactly for that very same reason that there shouldn't be one Russian speaker in any country that isn't currently within the internationally-accepted borders of Russia. Russians can't be trusted not to start genocidal wars of expansion based on the rights of those they themselves sent to colonize other people's countries.

The situation in Ukraine wasn't a matter of colonisation. The modern Ukrainian national identity is only really strongly held in the western parts of the country closer to the rest of Europe. The people in the East of Ukraine merely speak a dialect closer to the rest of Russia and they always have done. Crimea and the Donbass has always been majority Russian, not Ukrainian. There was no significant "colonisation" there.

Russia is a rational nation acting under rational geopolitical premises. There is nothing genocidal about the Russian nation or its people.
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Postby Occult Pasadena » Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:41 am

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Postby Ansarullah » Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:11 pm

And Germans weren't expelled from "Danzig, Bohemia, Silesia, etc." after the German defeat in the First World War. The only period widespread population exchange happened between Germany and Eastern Europe is the immediate period following WWII.

Great. What does that matter? In fact it's even worse since they just blatantly ignored the fact Germans had lived there for hundreds of years. The point still stands.
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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:20 pm

Will they invade?
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Postby Ansarullah » Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:25 pm

Nationalist Northumbria wrote:Will they invade?

no. It's a basic demonstration that Russia is independent and willing to defend Russians in other countries if it comes to it, the exact same thing the US does on a regular basis except Russia has a genuine justification.
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Postby Haruhi Japan » Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:37 pm

Ansarullah wrote:
And Germans weren't expelled from "Danzig, Bohemia, Silesia, etc." after the German defeat in the First World War. The only period widespread population exchange happened between Germany and Eastern Europe is the immediate period following WWII.

Great. What does that matter? In fact it's even worse since they just blatantly ignored the fact Germans had lived there for hundreds of years. The point still stands.

The Kaiserreich should be reestablished.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:48 pm

Limonovshchina wrote:
Allied Iran wrote:It wasn't when the "Kaiserreich" fell, it was when the Nazi Germany fell... and it is exactly for that very same reason that there shouldn't be one Russian speaker in any country that isn't currently within the internationally-accepted borders of Russia. Russians can't be trusted not to start genocidal wars of expansion based on the rights of those they themselves sent to colonize other people's countries.

By that ridiculous logic, all Europeans aside from the Uralic peoples cannot be trusted not to do so, if we look at the history of European nations. In fact, it would seem to me that imperial conquest, slavery and genocide is very Indo-European and all the other peoples of the world require banding together to resist this menace.

We have to establish a Turanic Juche superstate to unite all the peoples escaping this Indo-European tyranny.


The majority of European DNA is not Indo-European, but rather from the population that has lived in Europe since the neolithic times.

Also Indo-Europeans originated in Russia.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:50 pm

Allied Iran wrote:
Ansarullah wrote:I'm not referring to WW2. That's an entirely different situation and I'm not risking getting another forum ban for voicing my opinion on that like the last time I did so. I meant WW1.

1: That's just blatantly racist.
2: You're judging every Russian based off the foreign policy of their government.
And Germans weren't expelled from "Danzig, Bohemia, Silesia, etc." after the German defeat in the First World War. The only period widespread population exchange happened between Germany and Eastern Europe is the immediate period following WWII.


Anti-German civilian violence did occur against Germans after World War I, namely in the Sudetenland and the Polish Corridor.

Also the Bolsheviks lynched a few in the Baltics
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Postby Ansarullah » Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:52 pm

Also the Bolsheviks lynched a few in the Baltics

"a few"
They killed thousands in Estonia and Latvia alone. Not even counting the massacres of Volga Germans.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:55 pm

Ansarullah wrote:
Also the Bolsheviks lynched a few in the Baltics

"a few"
They killed thousands in Estonia and Latvia alone. Not even counting the massacres of Volga Germans.


i was being facetious. you are correct.
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