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Postby Old Tyrannia » Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:52 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Anyone who seeks to deprive their lawful sovereign of her throne is a traitor.


People who govern without a clear of consent of the governed, don't deserve their position (throne, presidential mandate, etc.)

Parliamentary supremacy was quite clear here.

See Arch's post: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=512750&p=39181475#p39181475

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Dec 02, 2021 6:56 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
People who govern without a clear of consent of the governed, don't deserve their position (throne, presidential mandate, etc.)

Parliamentary supremacy was quite clear here.

See Arch's post: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=512750&p=39181475#p39181475

Royal authority is derived from God, not from popular opinion.


There's no such thing as royal authority, nor god. Nothing is derived from nothing.

... damn, the logic is flawless, I have to admit that :)
The Blaatschapen should resign

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:05 am

Christian Confederation wrote:The Second they elect a Dictator the US will go Grenada on em.

The second they elect a socialist.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:49 am

Ifreann wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:The Second they elect a Dictator the US will go Grenada on em.

The second they elect a socialist.


Or anyone who won’t turn over natural resources to US corporations.
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Postby Immortan Khan » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:20 am

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I think the fact that the very openly anti-monarchy party won all but a single seat in the parliament pretty much means that the people of Barbados at the very least dont care about kicking the Queen out

Or maybe if she felt she had a good chance on achieving a popular mandate on that specific issue, she'd have put it to a referendum. As I said, this was most likely done because it probably would have been rejected had it been put to a referendum.
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:25 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:Royal authority is derived from God, not from popular opinion.

If it bothers God so much then he can always come down here and do something about it.

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Well, lads, I still don’t see God. Back to crushing crowns it is then.
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:25 am

Immortan Khan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I think the fact that the very openly anti-monarchy party won all but a single seat in the parliament pretty much means that the people of Barbados at the very least dont care about kicking the Queen out

Or maybe if she felt she had a good chance on achieving a popular mandate on that specific issue, she'd have put it to a referendum. As I said, this was most likely done because it probably would have been rejected had it been put to a referendum.


So if this is so unpopular where is the protest?
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Postby The free romanians » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:28 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Royal authority is derived from God, not from popular opinion.


There's no such thing as royal authority, nor god. Nothing is derived from nothing.

... damn, the logic is flawless, I have to admit that :)

Thats very subjective

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Postby Porde » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:29 am

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Postby The free romanians » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:31 am

Btw barbados is land OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE
barbarians cry pls
Lmao
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:33 am

The free romanians wrote:Btw barbados is land OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE
barbarians cry pls
Lmao


Barbados is rightful Sealand clay.
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Postby Immortan Khan » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:33 am

Vassenor wrote:
Immortan Khan wrote:Or maybe if she felt she had a good chance on achieving a popular mandate on that specific issue, she'd have put it to a referendum. As I said, this was most likely done because it probably would have been rejected had it been put to a referendum.


So if this is so unpopular where is the protest?

Not all unpopular moves by a government are protested in the street which can be influenced by numerous factors. If republicans feel its so important for the people to have a say in their head of state, why not put it to a referendum? Even some republican activists in Barbados feel cheated out of not having gone through the process of a referendum.
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Postby Nora Xent » Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:55 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
People who govern without a clear of consent of the governed, don't deserve their position (throne, presidential mandate, etc.)

Parliamentary supremacy was quite clear here.

See Arch's post: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=512750&p=39181475#p39181475

Royal authority is derived from God, not from popular opinion.

Did God save Louis XVI from the guillotine? Did god come from the heavens to stop the Italians from removing their king in 1946? I believe the answer to all of these questions is 'no.'

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Postby The free romanians » Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:00 am

Nora Xent wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Royal authority is derived from God, not from popular opinion.

Did God save Louis XVI from the guillotine? Did god come from the heavens to stop the Italians from removing their king in 1946? I believe the answer to all of these questions is 'no.'

No but idk if he would like the insanity of the late french revolution
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Postby Salvatiotan » Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:07 am

Although I am a strong supporter of constitutional monarchies I think it’s great that they decide to become a republic, the majority of the people want it so therefore they should of course become it. Besides there it’s much culture in having your monarch be some woman from a different country on a sad island.

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Postby Salvatiotan » Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:08 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
People who govern without a clear of consent of the governed, don't deserve their position (throne, presidential mandate, etc.)

Parliamentary supremacy was quite clear here.

See Arch's post: viewtopic.php?f=20&t=512750&p=39181475#p39181475

Royal authority is derived from God, not from popular opinion.

Royal authority is very much derived from popular opinion, which is why I’m such a strong supporter of it.

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Postby Christian Confederation » Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:17 am

Vassenor wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The second they elect a socialist.


Or anyone who won’t turn over natural resources to US corporations.

Eather Way we expand our claims in the Caribbean.
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Postby The free romanians » Thu Dec 02, 2021 11:32 am

Salvatiotan wrote:Although I am a strong supporter of constitutional monarchies I think it’s great that they decide to become a republic, the majority of the people want it so therefore they should of course become it. Besides there it’s much culture in having your monarch be some woman from a different country on a sad island.

Yep
A barbadian monarhc separate from the other would be nice

Anyways
They didn't have an referendum so thats a bit sad

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Postby Limonovshchina » Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:16 pm

Excellent news. Now if only many European nations would come to their senses and do the same.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:24 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Or anyone who won’t turn over natural resources to US corporations.

Eather Way we expand our claims in the Caribbean.

Any excuse will do.
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Postby The free romanians » Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:30 pm

Limonovshchina wrote:Excellent news. Now if only many European nations would come to their senses and do the same.

Me an monarchist from a country that (sadly) is not a monarchy ._.

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Postby Deblar » Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:33 pm

Based

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Deblar wrote:Based

What is based
And on what

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Postby Deblar » Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:37 pm

The free romanians wrote:
Deblar wrote:Based

What is based
And on what

Looks like someone doesn't speak Reddit

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