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Is the United States and Canada part of Latin America?

Postby Kurkiana » Fri Nov 26, 2021 3:34 pm

Is the United States now part of Latin America?
In all Latin America the most widely spoken languages are those of the Latin language, those being Spanish, French, Portuguese, Italian and Romanian. In all the countries that make up Latin America one of these languages is spoken but there has always been this question since the emigration of Spanish-speaking cultures, which is: the United States is part of Latin America? Canada is part of Latin America?

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Postby Vistulange » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:02 pm

No.

That was easy.

I reckon there's a little more to countries being considered a part of Latin America than merely "some amount of people in these countries speak Spanish or Portuguese!".
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Postby Congdao » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:04 pm

Quebec is part of Latin America because the name “Latin America”. It’s not Iberian America it’s Latin America.

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:04 pm

No, but Latin cultures (American and otherwise) have seeped into the US due to both annexation of former Mexican, French, and Spanish territory (southwestern US, Louisiana, Florida, former Spanish-held islands) and immigration from the south (more the latter).
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Postby Constaniana » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:07 pm

The United States of America is the 4th Rome; Rome spoke Latin; therefore America is Latin American.
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Postby Vikanias » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:08 pm

Latin America is a term used for Central America and South America (some might say Mexico as well), so Canada and the US in my opinion aren’t apart of Latin America, although we do have Quebec, also to qualify as a Latin American nation I think the majority of a nations population speak a Latin language.
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Postby Sandalos » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:09 pm

Anglo-America? More like cringe 8) *walks away from explosions without looking back because I am badass*
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Postby Hispida » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:09 pm

Constaniana wrote:The United States of America is the 4th Rome; Rome spoke Latin; therefore America is Latin American.

kazakhstan is the fifth rome. what are you on about?
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Postby Vikanias » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:12 pm

Constaniana wrote:The United States of America is the 4th Rome; Rome spoke Latin; therefore America is Latin American.


Nah man that’s San Marino. This is not a joke, just facts. Russian isn’t a 4th rome, no nation is the 4th rome except San Marino
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Postby Constaniana » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:13 pm

Hispida wrote:
Constaniana wrote:The United States of America is the 4th Rome; Rome spoke Latin; therefore America is Latin American.

kazakhstan is the fifth rome. what are you on about?

How do you reckon that?
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Postby Constaniana » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:15 pm

Vikanias wrote:
Constaniana wrote:The United States of America is the 4th Rome; Rome spoke Latin; therefore America is Latin American.


Nah man that’s San Marino. This is not a joke, just facts. Russian isn’t a 4th rome, no nation is the 4th rome except San Marino

Russia isn't the 4th Rome because it's the 3rd Rome. Get your Romes in a row.
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Postby Hispida » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:21 pm

Constaniana wrote:
Hispida wrote:kazakhstan is the fifth rome. what are you on about?

How do you reckon that?

roman empire -> byzantium -> russia -> soviet union -> kazakhstan
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:22 pm

How can Canada be part of Latin America when Canada isn't real?

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Postby Hispida » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:24 pm

Ifreann wrote:How can Canada be part of Latin America when Canada isn't real?

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Postby Vikanias » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:24 pm

Ifreann wrote:How can Canada be part of Latin America when Canada isn't real?


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Postby Constaniana » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:36 pm

Hispida wrote:
Constaniana wrote:How do you reckon that?

roman empire -> byzantium -> russia -> soviet union -> kazakhstan

I'd hesitate to consider the Soviets Roman, given their ant-traditionalism, but I can see your logic. Though Kazakhstan would then have to Rome-fight with the other post-Soviet republics to be the sole 5th Rome, or be co-fifth-Rome with the rest of them.
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Postby Democratic Socialist State of Barbados » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:38 pm

Kurkiana wrote:Is the United States now part of Latin America?
In all Latin America the most widely spoken languages are those of the Latin language, those being Spanish, French, Portuguese, Italian and Romanian. In all the countries that make up Latin America one of these languages is spoken but there has always been this question since the emigration of Spanish-speaking cultures, which is: the United States is part of Latin America? Canada is part of Latin America?

Leave me your comments about what you think

No, they are not a part of LA due to cultural and various other reasons.
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Postby Hispida » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:39 pm

Constaniana wrote:
Hispida wrote:roman empire -> byzantium -> russia -> soviet union -> kazakhstan

I'd hesitate to consider the Soviets Roman, given their ant-traditionalism, but I can see your logic. Though Kazakhstan would then have to Rome-fight with the other post-Soviet republics to be the sole 5th Rome, or be co-fifth-Rome with the rest of them.

kazakhstan was the last nation to secede from the USSR, so i say it carries the mantle.
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Postby Nora Xent » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:40 pm

Hispida wrote:
Constaniana wrote:How do you reckon that?

roman empire -> byzantium -> russia -> soviet union -> kazakhstan

WRONG! the netherlands are the fifth rome.

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:42 pm

You missed a qualifier in your description of what makes something count as a “Latin” country- that the Romance language(s) in question must be the predominant language of the country. Given that English is the lingua franca of both nations it would seem to be pretty obvious that they don’t fit the bill.
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Postby Constaniana » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:48 pm

Regardless of which number Rome America is, she is still Roman. America being founded by colonists sailing across the Atlantic Ocean to a strange new land echoes Aeneas sailing across the Mediterranean Sea. More importantly, the consummate L.A.R.Ping of the Founding Fathers (the Thirteen Colonies' own Patricians), lead by their Cincinnatus George Washington, was sufficient to make the United States spiritually adopted by Rome, granting her a claim to her mantle.
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Postby Luziyca » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:49 pm

Definitely not the United States, given English is the lingua franca there, even if there's a sizable population who speaks a Romance language (Spanish), and they took territory from Spanish-speaking populations (from Mexico for the SW states), as English has replaced Spanish in those areas. That said, Puerto Rico in my opinion is part of Latin America, however, and if the USA wanted to gain some good PR, they should give it full independence.

Canada is much more debatable, given that while in most of Canada, English is the lingua franca, there are parts of Canada (i.e. Quebec and parts of New Brunswick) where French is the lingua franca. I'd say that in my opinion, Quebec is definitely part of Latin America, and by that standard, so should Haiti and French Guiana, given that they speak a Romance language (French). However, if we exclude the French from the definition of Latin America, then Quebec, Haiti, and French Guiana are not part of Latin America, and so ergo, Canada is fully not Latin American in that case.
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Postby Diarcesia » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:49 pm

No. They are a part of Germanic America.

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Postby Constaniana » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:52 pm

Hispida wrote:
Constaniana wrote:I'd hesitate to consider the Soviets Roman, given their ant-traditionalism, but I can see your logic. Though Kazakhstan would then have to Rome-fight with the other post-Soviet republics to be the sole 5th Rome, or be co-fifth-Rome with the rest of them.

kazakhstan was the last nation to secede from the USSR, so i say it carries the mantle.

Missed opportunity there; they could have stayed in until after the Russians seceded, and then just kept calling themselves the U.S.S.R. It would have saved them a lot of paperwork.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:55 pm

Constaniana wrote:Regardless of which number Rome America is, she is still Roman. America being founded by colonists sailing across the Atlantic Ocean to a strange new land echoes Aeneas sailing across the Mediterranean Sea. More importantly, the consummate L.A.R.Ping of the Founding Fathers (the Thirteen Colonies' own Patricians), lead by their Cincinnatus George Washington, was sufficient to make the United States spiritually adopted by Rome, granting her a claim to her mantle.

Try this again when America has been around for a thousand years.

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