rather live in fascist(Nazi) communist (stalinism) socitey

[Hukhalia]

Neither, but an authoritarian state is not always bad, if it's neither of those. Fascism is worst, at least in the Nazi form, Stalinism next worst, Maoism, Juche, Trotskyism, Francoism, Italian-style fascism, gynocratic fascism (presently called Fourth Wave Feminism), and then Islamism, of course.

An authoritarian, patriarchal state with economic populism, secularism, and civic nationalism would be best. It would be best to preserve some democratic institutions while avoiding the most corruptible ones, such as two or three major national parties which only answer to their donors these days. State or provincial governments would continue to exist as well, with limited representative systems.

wait so you think islamism is at the very least marginally better than fourth-wave feminism

[Dystopian Florida]

Neither, but an authoritarian state is not always bad, if it's neither of those. Fascism is worst, at least in the Nazi form, Stalinism next worst, Maoism, Juche, Trotskyism, Francoism, Italian-style fascism, gynocratic fascism (presently called Fourth Wave Feminism), and then Islamism, of course.

An authoritarian, patriarchal state with economic populism, secularism, and civic nationalism would be best. It would be best to preserve some democratic institutions while avoiding the most corruptible ones, such as two or three major national parties which only answer to their donors these days. State or provincial governments would continue to exist as well, with limited representative systems.

wait so you think islamism is at the very least marginally better than fourth-wave feminism

Only in the sense that they don't want to annihilate their enemy (all men for the gynocrats, non-Muslims for the caliphate), just convert them or make them pay extra tribute under the future caliphate. The objective of feminism is ultimately the extermination of men.

[Kubra]

Neither, but an authoritarian state is not always bad, if it's neither of those. Fascism is worst, at least in the Nazi form, Stalinism next worst, Maoism, Juche, Trotskyism, Francoism, Italian-style fascism, gynocratic fascism (presently called Fourth Wave Feminism), and then Islamism, of course.

An authoritarian, patriarchal state with economic populism, secularism, and civic nationalism would be best. It would be best to preserve some democratic institutions while avoiding the most corruptible ones, such as two or three major national parties which only answer to their donors these days. State or provincial governments would continue to exist as well, with limited representative systems.

wait so you think islamism is at the very least marginally better than fourth-wave feminism

This was the more unexpected statement.

[Ispravlennaja Tsekovija]

wait so you think islamism is at the very least marginally better than fourth-wave feminism

Only in the sense that they don't want to annihilate their enemy (all men for the gynocrats, non-Muslims for the caliphate), just convert them or make them pay extra tribute under the future caliphate. The objective of feminism is ultimately the extermination of men.

god if only

[Torrocca]

brb gonna be a stereotype real quick and press the delete all men (except for daddy mecha stalin) button

[Rosmana]

Well, that got out of hand fast.

[Dystopian Florida]

Only in the sense that they don't want to annihilate their enemy (all men for the gynocrats, non-Muslims for the caliphate), just convert them or make them pay extra tribute under the future caliphate. The objective of feminism is ultimately the extermination of men.

god if only

Case in point.

[Dystopian Florida]

brb gonna be a stereotype real quick and press the delete all men (except for daddy mecha stalin) button

See? They call it "ironic misandry." Well, they're half-right.

[Torrocca]

brb gonna be a stereotype real quick and press the delete all men (except for daddy mecha stalin) button

See? They call it "ironic misandry." Well, they're half-right.

oh i wasn't being ironic, i am genuinely 100% super duper cereal about destroying every last male-identifying human being except for our lord and savior of the comically large spoon variety joe steel

[Hukhalia]

wait so you think islamism is at the very least marginally better than fourth-wave feminism

Only in the sense that they don't want to annihilate their enemy (all men for the gynocrats, non-Muslims for the caliphate), just convert them or make them pay extra tribute under the future caliphate. The objective of feminism is ultimately the extermination of men.

...I keep on forgetting there's a subset of right-wingers who just REFUSE to move past 2016-tier rhetoric.

[Dystopian Florida]

Only in the sense that they don't want to annihilate their enemy (all men for the gynocrats, non-Muslims for the caliphate), just convert them or make them pay extra tribute under the future caliphate. The objective of feminism is ultimately the extermination of men.

...I keep on forgetting there's a subset of right-wingers who just REFUSE to move past 2016-tier rhetoric.

That's rich, because my politics aren't conventionally right or left. Also, what does 2016 have to do with the ultimate goal of all feminists?

[Hukhalia]

...I keep on forgetting there's a subset of right-wingers who just REFUSE to move past 2016-tier rhetoric.

That's rich, because my politics aren't conventionally right or left. Also, what does 2016 have to do with the ultimate goal of all feminists?

if i had a penny every time someone with patently right-wing views on society tried to convince me that they were "beyond" left and right or whatever because they have a footnote that says "poor people aren't awful", i'd be on a cruise ship surrounded by hunky supermodels right now rather than posting on nsg.

2016 was the year the "anti-SJW" crowd spent a lot of time complaining that feminists wanted to extermine men, which is incorrect on the part of the broad majority of feminists. you're recycling that old and tired rhetoric five years after it went out of fashion.

See? They call it "ironic misandry." Well, they're half-right.

oh i wasn't being ironic, i am genuinely 100% super duper cereal about destroying every last male-identifying human being except for our lord and savior of the comically large spoon variety joe steel

wouldn't this just wind up with stalin having the world's largest harem

[Dystopian Florida]

That's rich, because my politics aren't conventionally right or left. Also, what does 2016 have to do with the ultimate goal of all feminists?

if i had a penny every time someone with patently right-wing views on society tried to convince me that they were "beyond" left and right or whatever because they have a footnote that says "poor people aren't awful", i'd be on a cruise ship surrounded by hunky supermodels right now rather than posting on nsg.

2016 was the year the "anti-SJW" crowd spent a lot of time complaining that feminists wanted to extermine men, which is incorrect on the part of the broad majority of feminists. you're recycling that old and tired rhetoric five years after it went out of fashion.

oh i wasn't being ironic, i am genuinely 100% super duper cereal about destroying every last male-identifying human being except for our lord and savior of the comically large spoon variety joe steel

wouldn't this just wind up with stalin having the world's largest harem

If I had a credit for every time the feminists claimed to support gender equality, I'd be the richest man on Coruscant. Feminism isn't even leftist. It's a bourgeois fauxgressive movement instead, far more interested in the plight of upper-class white professional women than any alleged intersectionality that they profess.

[Cosmic79]

For some closure, I believe both of these are bad however I see fascism as the lesser of two evils Communism had killed over 100 million fascism killed 20 million Personally I would rather live in a fascist society than a communist one. Debate me if you like I just want to see if people would rather live in a fascist society or a communist

Fascism: Die from hunger or execution
Communism: Die from hunger or execution but red

[Torrocca]

oh i wasn't being ironic, i am genuinely 100% super duper cereal about destroying every last male-identifying human being except for our lord and savior of the comically large spoon variety joe steel

wouldn't this just wind up with stalin having the world's largest harem

yes, and

[Dystopian Florida]

Once again proving that Stalin was the worst chad of all time.

[Hukhalia]

if i had a penny every time someone with patently right-wing views on society tried to convince me that they were "beyond" left and right or whatever because they have a footnote that says "poor people aren't awful", i'd be on a cruise ship surrounded by hunky supermodels right now rather than posting on nsg.

2016 was the year the "anti-SJW" crowd spent a lot of time complaining that feminists wanted to extermine men, which is incorrect on the part of the broad majority of feminists. you're recycling that old and tired rhetoric five years after it went out of fashion.



wouldn't this just wind up with stalin having the world's largest harem

If I had a credit for every time the feminists claimed to support gender equality, I'd be the richest man on Coruscant. Feminism isn't even leftist. It's a bourgeois fauxgressive movement instead, far more interested in the plight of upper-class white professional women than any alleged intersectionality that they profess.

as liberals utilise feminism as a means to distract and divide, they succeed -- people accuse the entire idea of feminism of being bourgeois, or are subsumed by those liberal-bourgeois tendencies themselves! you are testament to the success of liberal ideology to this extent, sir.

wouldn't this just wind up with stalin having the world's largest harem

yes, and

i mean there's very little wrong with this i was just asking

[Dystopian Florida]

If I had a credit for every time the feminists claimed to support gender equality, I'd be the richest man on Coruscant. Feminism isn't even leftist. It's a bourgeois fauxgressive movement instead, far more interested in the plight of upper-class white professional women than any alleged intersectionality that they profess.

as liberals utilise feminism as a means to distract and divide, they succeed -- people accuse the entire idea of feminism of being bourgeois, or are subsumed by those liberal-bourgeois tendencies themselves! you are testament to the success of liberal ideology to this extent, sir.

yes, and

i mean there's very little wrong with this i was just asking

A bunch of wine mom Karens sitting in their gentrified homes inside gated communities dissing their husbands and plotting ways to murder them in their sleep isn't bourgeois fake progressivism?

Granted, I'm not a liberal, so I don't know their agendas, I'm not a Marxist, nor a rightist, either, so you guys can share ownership of feminism if you wish. I'm a patriotic populist with a mix of rightist and leftist ideas. That doesn't make me a centrist, either. Centrists are colorless, humorless woke elitists who skew to the center of every issue while feigning their supposed superior morality.

[Great Algerstonia]

See? They call it "ironic misandry." Well, they're half-right.

oh i wasn't being ironic, i am genuinely 100% super duper cereal about destroying every last male-identifying human being except for our lord and savior of the comically large spoon variety joe steel

delete nationstates to stop men from writing messages on the forum

[Stellar Colonies]

Well that was a weird turn

The misandric strains of feminism have little to do with this though

[Albrenia]

Well that was a weird turn

The misandric strains of feminism have little to do with this though

For some reason, everything tends to mention Feminism eventually. Either that or Trump.

[Dystopian Florida]

Well that was a weird turn

The misandric strains of feminism have little to do with this though

For some reason, everything tends to mention Feminism eventually. Either that or Trump.

The latter is a clownish distraction who has been a useful idiot for the Wall Street robber barons to divide and conquer the working class by race. The former is a cancer on society and the body politic that should be pulled out root and stem.

[Stellar Colonies]

Well that was a weird turn

The misandric strains of feminism have little to do with this though

For some reason, everything tends to mention Feminism eventually. Either that or Trump.

Well, there's plenty of room for debate about feminism, so it's not surprising that it's a recurring topic.

Although some of the more extreme strains have a fascistic tone, it really is removed from this specific thread and it being brought up was odd.

Personally, I'd rather risk dying in Holodomor 2.0 instead of possibly being shipped off to a camp for having ASD.

[Diahon]

personally, i'd rather bite my tongue and die choking on my own blood than live with either poison, and i'd recommend that way to die to the rest of humanity

[Kubra]

For some closure, I believe both of these are bad however I see fascism as the lesser of two evils Communism had killed over 100 million fascism killed 20 million Personally I would rather live in a fascist society than a communist one. Debate me if you like I just want to see if people would rather live in a fascist society or a communist

Fascism: Die from hunger or execution
Communism: Die from hunger or execution but red

the Soviet experience was mostly involved very early death by liver failure