Why I Care

[Kaczynskisatva]

LOL this is rich coming from a conspiracy theorist with no knowledge of evolution.

LOL this is rich coming from a heretic with no knowledge of scripture.

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More than anything, this thread so far makes a hard case that we need a licensing agency to issue permits to people to have opinions, or that our whole way of educating people has never trained them to use natural language in a way that only outputs formally true arguments.

Congrats, you have lost the ability to comment your opinions. How do you feel?

Me: *sees that Henry is driving a new car*

Me: "I see that Henry bought a new car, or, there are glow-in-the-dark flamencos in an underwater supertechnological Atlanis civilization underneath the North Pole, in the form of (X v Y) or, "X, or Y". This is justified true belief and a correct application of the disjunction introduction in elementary logic."

You: Congrats, you believe in glow-in-the-dark flamencos in the lost underwater Atlantean bubble civilization.

Gettier: No comment.

Either properly debate someone, or don't reply to them at all. This whole sarcastic "end of discussion because I say so next" act is too close to spam and flamebaiting.

I cannot properly debate someone, if they do not make an argument. I can only respond coherently to nonsense by saying "this is nonsense", or with nonsense.

[Arvenia]

LOL this is rich coming from a conspiracy theorist with no knowledge of evolution.

LOL this is rich coming from a heretic with no knowledge of scripture.

arguments detected: 0

More than anything, this thread so far makes a hard case that we need a licensing agency to issue permits to people to have opinions, or that our whole way of educating people has never trained them to use natural language in a way that only outputs formally true arguments.

Congrats, you have lost the ability to comment your opinions. How do you feel?

Me: *sees that Henry is driving a new car*

Me: "I see that Henry bought a new car, or, there are glow-in-the-dark flamencos in an underwater supertechnological Atlanis civilization underneath the North Pole, in the form of (X v Y) or, "X, or Y". This is justified true belief and a correct application of the disjunction introduction in elementary logic."

You: Congrats, you believe in glow-in-the-dark flamencos in the lost underwater Atlantean bubble civilization.

Gettier: No comment.

Either properly debate someone, or don't reply to them at all. This whole sarcastic "end of discussion because I say so next" act is too close to spam and flamebaiting.

I cannot properly debate someone, if they do not make an argument. I can only respond coherently to nonsense by saying "this is nonsense", or with nonsense.

Maybe you should avoid debating anyone here. It is the best course you can choose in order to avoid getting warned/punished by mods.

[Kaczynskisatva]

Maybe you should avoid debating anyone here. It is the best course you can choose in order to avoid getting warned/punished by mods.

Isn't this equally and universally true, for the cases of all posters, in all threads, and in all debate forums, on all websites?

[-Astoria-]

Maybe you should avoid debating anyone here. It is the best course you can choose in order to avoid getting warned/punished by mods.

Isn't this equally and universally true, for the cases of all posters, in all threads, and in all debate forums, on all websites?

That doesn't excuse you from it, though.

[Kaczynskisatva]

That doesn't excuse you from it, though.

No, but it makes it part of a set of general statements that are true but not particularly applicable to anything here.

I guess, I want to state that my intention in quickly dismissing arguments while running on my last half hour of red wine before sleep, was to dismiss arguments tangential to the point of the thread - the assumption that Western civilization, broadly speaking, exists, and drawing from this assumption, the question of whether or not there is something it should be doing to prioritize the interests of the people within it, or the natives in particular. Debating the foundation of this very obvious premise and delving into a sort of French-existential but do we really exist? what does that even mean? litany of obfuscatory dishonesty seemed to subvert the premise, rather than refute it.

But, I will acknowledge that, what is obvious to some people, is not always obvious to other people.

Since OP is not coming back, I will just do you all the favor of modeling how to deal with "white people exist" arguments. This is one of those frustrating cases where, instead of responding to someone's arguments, they aren't even making any coherent arguments, and so I have to explain to them the sort of arguments that they would want to make, to even begin the process. So, here you go:

Roman-imperialism was not explicitly racial,
Christendom was not explicitly racial,
NATO/EU imperialism is not explicitly racial, and is, in fact, explicitly anti-racial and racially inclusive.

Therefore, it is antithetical to the thousands of years of the culture of white people, for white people to attempt to define themselves as such. It has actually been one of the exceptional successes of Western civilization for white people to not define themselves as such, but to instead define their civilization according to abstract or universal principles, in which anyone can participate, as long as they follow the rules and contribute to the project. Reductive racialism would have directly hampered the progress of Western civilization, blah blah blah, something about the over-representative contributions of Jewish intellectuals to the physical sciences, the development of methods of finance and media, and social theory as a case-in-point example of the utility of inviting out-groups to participate in the social contract.

For another example, allowing anyone in the world who is reasonably smart and productive to come throw themselves into the gene shredder of Western capitalism and create more output for everyone living on top of it has been a total disaster for every third-world country which has been deprived of their best human capital by pricing them into contributing to the Western system, while neglecting their own systems. This sucks for them. It is, however, great for Westerners / Europeans. As an engine of stripping the rest of the world of its natural resources as efficiently as possible, Western civilization has reached its peak expression in post-racialism, which has enabled it to strip the rest of the world of its best natural resource, its human resources. It is in its own best interest to continue along that course.

There. That is your argument.

If you all can internalize this, at some point, there may be some profit in making another thread, to unpack that and search for possible refutations. But, since the thread has apparently been searching for its argument, and not making it, I will just have to leave it there, for now. We do not exist is a trivially falsified argument, and it only feeds into reactionary, ultra-nationalist narratives by goading them into thinking that you do not have a better argument to make.

As the son of a Jewish-Soviet emigre and an Anglo-American, I personally appreciate the gracefully inclusive, consistently ideological basis of European civilization. I am no more pleased than the full-blooded natives to see how this inclusive principle has been recently been, in some places, stressed to the point where obviously some limits must be applied to prevent the project from turning into a charity project for the rest of the world, and to make sure everyone who comes into the fold is contributing, so that it remains beneficial to everyone who has already invested. As a human with the basic human instincts of cooperation and gratitude, I am pleased to have the opportunity to contribute in kind to a civilizational model which has, in its very uniquely European way, invited me to participate.

The many such cases of this have been a factor which have contributed to the success of the European civilizational project, for thousands of years.

See? That wasn't so hard.

[Limonovshchina]

The red army should've marched across Europe straight to Lisbon and denazified the whole continent in its entirety so that nobody would have to see shit like this.

I can only hope OP doesn't start blowing things up or shooting people somewhere along the line of his /pol/ posting career.

[Kaczynskisatva]

The red army should've marched across Europe straight to Lisbon and denazified the whole continent in its entirety so that nobody would have to see shit like this.

I can only hope OP doesn't start blowing things up or shooting people somewhere along the line of his /pol/ posting career.

Some problems solve themselves. Sometimes, the most you have to do to hang someone, is sell them some rope.

[Hemakral]

I haven't had the chance of having a boyfriend, yet, but I dream of a cute Euro boy to hold hands with before I have a family with a lucky girl.

Bisexual white nationalism is a new one for me

[Picairn]

LOL this is rich coming from a heretic with no knowledge of scripture.

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LOL this is rich coming from a conspiracy theorist with no knowledge of evolution.

Deflection detected: 1

Edit: When are you going to reply to my slam-dunk on your ignorant take on evolution, my guy?

Me: *sees that Henry is driving a new car*

Me: "I see that Henry bought a new car, or, there are glow-in-the-dark flamencos in an underwater supertechnological Atlanis civilization underneath the North Pole, in the form of (X v Y) or, "X, or Y". This is justified true belief and a correct application of the disjunction introduction in elementary logic."

You: Congrats, you believe in glow-in-the-dark flamencos in the lost underwater Atlantean bubble civilization.

Gettier: No comment.

Your takes have all been horrendous. Need I to remind you about the time you pushed white genocide conspiracy theory, Covid conspiracy theory, and now the ignorant take on evolution?

Edit: The whole analogy is nonsense, since I am referring to the former, aka your "brilliant" idea of opinion licensing, not the latter.

I cannot properly debate someone, if they do not make an argument. I can only respond coherently to nonsense by saying "this is nonsense", or with nonsense.

Ironic, since your takes in this thread have been pure nonsense.

[Sandalos]

Euro Identity is easily the most stigmatized and hated concept on the face of this Earth in an ideological sense. So, what would compel anyone in their right mind to even desire the inevitable backlash that comes with holding such a sentiment? I will not speak for anyone else, but I will give you my personal explanations:

First of all, I grew up very poor in areas where I was a minority. This gave me both good and bad experiences. On one hand, I have met many different kinds of people and learned much from them and much from my interactions from them. I made friends and formed relationships. On the other hand, I had to fight many times because everyone wants to check the White boy. I have had the living shit beat out of me a good few times. I have been mocked for my skin color and I have been robbed twice. Eventually, I joined a black and Hispanic gang in middle school. As I got older, I came to realize all of my closest relationships were with people of my own race. They were easiest to relate and connect to. It's just natural chemistry. Being a young man with quite a bit of a vigorous spirit, I went to jail a couple times. Inmates self-segregate. If you are White, you will take the most abuse and you will be checked the most. Of course you can develop relationships with any race, but it's easiest and most natural with your own. Nobody forces you to segregate; it just comes naturally and is consensual and mutual by the vast majority. My point is people are all different and I choose to accept them for their differences. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses and that is nothing for anyone of any color to be ashamed of.

The music, films, literature and general culture that has resonated with me the most has been predominantly European in creation, followed by East Asian. All my girlfriends have been Eura babes. I haven't had the chance of having a boyfriend, yet, but I dream of a cute Euro boy to hold hands with before I have a family with a lucky girl. Eurocentrism to me is a combination of aesthetics and more importantly, chemistry. When people say things like "White Supremacism", I immediately know they are speaking from a place of ignorance and bigotry. My goal is to show people that not everyone who has such as myself feelings is a villainous caricature. The problem with this society is that most aren't willing to listen to each other, and more importantly, make the attempt at understanding even if you disagree. Yes, I want to fight the stigma against us. It matters to me because it's my White ass at stake and the people I care about. There's a lot of bad reputation that is warranted, but the bad is constantly maximized and the good is buried by many bad actors who are as prevalent as they are malevolent. "White Nationalism" has no future. Pan-Euro solidarity built on uplifting ourselves into a positive community does, however. Life experience has taught me that some people will always hate you, but the best revenge is to live the best possible life you can and to share it with others. That is the future I want.

Your thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjL63kB1r-o

[Disgraces]

I haven't had the chance of having a boyfriend, yet, but I dream of a cute Euro boy to hold hands with before I have a family with a lucky girl.

Bisexual white nationalism is a new one for me

Same, I've only seen gay white nationalism so far

Euro Identity is easily the most stigmatized and hated concept on the face of this Earth in an ideological sense. So, what would compel anyone in their right mind to even desire the inevitable backlash that comes with holding such a sentiment? I will not speak for anyone else, but I will give you my personal explanations:

First of all, I grew up very poor in areas where I was a minority. This gave me both good and bad experiences. On one hand, I have met many different kinds of people and learned much from them and much from my interactions from them. I made friends and formed relationships. On the other hand, I had to fight many times because everyone wants to check the White boy. I have had the living shit beat out of me a good few times. I have been mocked for my skin color and I have been robbed twice. Eventually, I joined a black and Hispanic gang in middle school. As I got older, I came to realize all of my closest relationships were with people of my own race. They were easiest to relate and connect to. It's just natural chemistry. Being a young man with quite a bit of a vigorous spirit, I went to jail a couple times. Inmates self-segregate. If you are White, you will take the most abuse and you will be checked the most. Of course you can develop relationships with any race, but it's easiest and most natural with your own. Nobody forces you to segregate; it just comes naturally and is consensual and mutual by the vast majority. My point is people are all different and I choose to accept them for their differences. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses and that is nothing for anyone of any color to be ashamed of.

The music, films, literature and general culture that has resonated with me the most has been predominantly European in creation, followed by East Asian. All my girlfriends have been Eura babes. I haven't had the chance of having a boyfriend, yet, but I dream of a cute Euro boy to hold hands with before I have a family with a lucky girl. Eurocentrism to me is a combination of aesthetics and more importantly, chemistry. When people say things like "White Supremacism", I immediately know they are speaking from a place of ignorance and bigotry. My goal is to show people that not everyone who has such as myself feelings is a villainous caricature. The problem with this society is that most aren't willing to listen to each other, and more importantly, make the attempt at understanding even if you disagree. Yes, I want to fight the stigma against us. It matters to me because it's my White ass at stake and the people I care about. There's a lot of bad reputation that is warranted, but the bad is constantly maximized and the good is buried by many bad actors who are as prevalent as they are malevolent. "White Nationalism" has no future. Pan-Euro solidarity built on uplifting ourselves into a positive community does, however. Life experience has taught me that some people will always hate you, but the best revenge is to live the best possible life you can and to share it with others. That is the future I want.

Your thoughts?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjL63kB1r-o

Lmfao

[Kaczynskisatva]

LOL this is rich coming from a conspiracy theorist with no knowledge of evolution.

Deflection detected: 1

Edit: When are you going to reply to my slam-dunk on your ignorant take on evolution, my guy?

I have, so far, provided no takes on evolution. I did provide one take on your take on evolution, demonstrating that you had not provided enough evidence to support your argument.

Your takes have all been horrendous. Need I to remind you about the time you pushed white genocide conspiracy theory, Covid conspiracy theory, and now the ignorant take on evolution?

I asked for more information on Covid mortality statistics in one thread, providing an example of some incomplete data that didn't support a conclusion being referenced, and asked for more data. The thread slid so fast, I didn't get back into it - you're welcome to bring that back up, in context. I also did post a quote from one of Kalergi's books. I don't think I provided much of an explanation or theory about it. Some questions were asked.

What you're doing here, quite embarrassingly to yourself, is drawing the line from "raw information and questions" to "we found a witch/wrongthinker/conspiracy theorist/(insert next historical title)" and, more than anything, this just reflects on you having some psychological barriers you don't really need, which are living in your head without paying you rent.

Edit: The whole analogy is nonsense, since I am referring to the former, aka your "brilliant" idea of opinion licensing, not the latter.

It's actually a logical operation you didn't understand - I refer you to the disjunction introduction, and to the Gettier problem which is the most interesting example in which it is encountered. I made, like, a funny reference to this, but you clearly didn't understand it. So, I suggest you look into that, and come back when you understand that "People need water to survive, or, the sky is always purple" is a true statement.

Upon reflection, I can see how someone who will so proudly put on display a basic failure to understand "operations with verbal logic" might need to rely on psychological barriers and fuzzy heuristics to understand what they're looking at, since they can't compute it in the raw. But, this is really your own problem, and you need to solve it for yourself. I have my schedule full explaining complicated things that no one understands, and do not currently have time to explain to you a simple thing that you don't want to understand.

Ironic, since your takes in this thread have been pure nonsense.

Analyzed formally, what you've put into this post so far has been:

- Accusing me of having heretical viewpoints I have never formally stated, inferred from questions, which were clearly good questions since they were not easily answered, and unrelated to the topic of the thread, similar to the "remember that bad thing you did five years ago" as an argument in a sexual relationship row - in the context of a thread in which I spent five pages refuting weak arguments against the OP until it burned out and I refuted him myself with a stronger argument, which demonstrates that sometimes, my lessons are about means and not ends,
- Doubling down on your own failure to understand a disjunction introduction, an elementary form of logic,
- The "I know what you are but what am I" argument, from kindergarten.

In the sense that none of this follows coherently from the subject of the thread, and some it is just your raw syntax error, this is all nonsense.

The overall impression I get from this, is that of an immature, angry person, with whom further intervention would generate very low returns for the interventionist, though it could be of some help to you, yourself.

Help yourself, I guess.

[Union of Socialist Council-Republics]

Race has no biological meaning, only a social one derived from the history of imperialism and the resulting global economic order. While identitarian projects in general are myopic, white (or “Euro” as you put it) identitarianism is inevitably tied up with supremacism derived from historic socioeconomic hierarchies which are in turn linked with the aesthetic signifiers that are generally held to represent distinct racial groups. To build your political project around a concept of white/Euro identity is completely detached from scientific reality, and thus expressed in a purely socioeconomic sense can only be tied to supremacism.

[Picairn]

I have, so far, provided no takes on evolution. I did provide one take on your take on evolution, demonstrating that you had not provided enough evidence to support your argument.

"2 articles on the differences between humans and chimps reflected in different functions of the genes as a result of evolutionary divergence is not evidence guys, I swear!"

My god this is embarrassing coming from supposedly "the smartest of all". Another self-own for the record.

I asked for more information on Covid mortality statistics in one thread, providing an example of some incomplete data that didn't support a conclusion being referenced, and asked for more data. The thread slid so fast, I didn't get back into it - you're welcome to bring that back up, in context.

I said:

You were caught lying, and now you want to double down and shift the goalposts instead of owning up your mistakes. Typical. Children in the 0 - 17 age group did die in the hundreds (~500) in the US, and they also report Long Covid symptoms after infection.

Bragging about how succinct you are while writing things like "wItHiN yOuR rHeToRiCaL mOdE" is simply pathetic. Oh, and did I mention you have difficulties formulating a coherent structure for your arguments?

By this time the death count has gone up to 600. And here's a review of relevant studies in children with Long Covid.

I also did post a quote from one of Kalergi's books. I don't think I provided much of an explanation or theory about it. Some questions were asked.

LOL.

I would press the button.

Then I would sit back, sipping vodka and eating rice noodles while I watched Russian tanks roll into Berlin, met with tears of joy by the cheering crowd, liberated from the brutal oppression of their Kalergi Plan government after almost 80 years of foreign occupation.

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What you're doing here, quite embarrassingly to yourself, is drawing the line from "raw information and questions" to "we found a witch/wrongthinker/conspiracy theorist/(insert next historical title)" and, more than anything, this just reflects on you having some psychological barriers you don't really need, which are living in your head without paying you rent.

The fact that you brazenly tried to gaslight me is absolutely hilarious, since your posts remain public for everyone to see. I drew my conclusions from your own words, not "psychological barriers living rent-free in my head" or whatever crap you invent in your imagination next. When are you going to stop lying, my guy?

It's actually a logical operation you didn't understand - I refer you to the disjunction introduction, and to the Gettier problem which is the most interesting example in which it is encountered. I made, like, a funny reference to this, but you clearly didn't understand it. So, I suggest you look into that, and come back when you understand that "People need water to survive, or, the sky is always purple" is a true statement.

Pseudo-philosophical examples are always the biggest examples of comedy I've witnessed, because people practicing it do not even have a clue what they are talking about. "Licensing opinions" is not a fact or observation, it is an opinion. You don't even obey the basic formula of disjunction introduction, yet you keep embarrassing yourself with more beating-around-the-bush BS.

Upon reflection, I can see how someone who will so proudly put on display a basic failure to understand "operations with verbal logic" might need to rely on psychological barriers and fuzzy heuristics to understand what they're looking at, since they can't compute it in the raw. But, this is really your own problem, and you need to solve it for yourself. I have my schedule full explaining complicated things that no one understands, and do not currently have time to explain to you a simple thing that you don't want to understand.

Upon reflection, I can see how someone caught in their BS can not coherently explain their actions, but instead relies on petty insults to other people's intelligence or state of mind to avoid digging themselves deeper into failure. But really, this is your own problem, not mine. If you want people to understand what the hell you're talking about, then perhaps you should learn the art of going straight to the point.

Analyzed formally, what you've put into this post so far has been:

You don't do any analysis, you only bury people under a constant stream of irrelevant and meaningless words that fall apart upon examination.

- Accusing me of having heretical viewpoints I have never formally stated,

You did, your own words reflect that. You can't gaslight me.

inferred from questions, which were clearly good questions since they were not easily answered,

I did provide replies, you just conveniently ignore them when they are contrary to your narrative.

and unrelated to the topic of the thread, similar to the "remember that bad thing you did five years ago" as an argument in a sexual relationship row

Not strictly unrelated, they were examples serving as potential causes that would lead to a hypothetical rejection of your application for an opinion license (itself a threadjack on your part), which is ironic considering that you constantly talked about how you're an ever-so-cool protagonist of the thread, or that you possess infinite IQ, or that you are higher than everyone else. This isn't even a case of "remember that bad thing you did five years ago", since your account is barely a month old, and you have always peddled BS about your superiority since the start. It's a running pattern, not an isolated incident.

- in the context of a thread in which I spent five pages refuting weak arguments against the OP until it burned out and I refuted him myself with a stronger argument, which demonstrates that sometimes, my lessons are about means and not ends,

"Refuting weak arguments against the OP" is a nice euphemism for getting destroyed.

- Doubling down on your own failure to understand a disjunction introduction, an elementary form of logic,

You don't even adhere to the original formula of the disjunction introduction in your first argument, and now you keep embarrassing yourself by referring to it.

- The "I know what you are but what am I" argument, from kindergarten.

Where was this? Bold words about kindergarten when you always harrumph about your intellectual superiority like a 12-year-old when he/she scored triple digits on an online IQ test.

In the sense that none of this follows coherently from the subject of the thread, and some it is just your raw syntax error, this is all nonsense.

I don't threadjack with endless, meaningless displays of intellectual superiority, nor do I say easily refutable BS like "Liberalism is a religion" and "Christianity is an ideology".

The overall impression I get from this, is that of an immature, angry person, with whom further intervention would generate very low returns for the interventionist, though it could be of some help to you, yourself.

Help yourself, I guess.

Tell me about immaturity again when you have done posturing about your pseudo-knowledge. The overall impression I get from you is someone who is so insecure about his intellect that he must say he is the best in many of his posts like prayers to affirm his imaginary superiority.

[Vikanias]

White nationalism is kinda cringe ngl. It’s dog water dowsed in dog shit. I just wanna hang out with my homies of all races, not say “you genocided us!” And “No! You genocided us!” Over and over until,the universe dies, fuck white nationalism, fuck any races nationalism, just hang out with the homies.

[Sandalos]

White nationalism is kinda cringe ngl. It’s dog water dowsed in dog shit. I just wanna hang out with my homies of all races, not say “you genocided us!” And “No! You genocided us!” Over and over until,the universe dies, fuck white nationalism, fuck any races nationalism, just hang out with the homies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41wGU4QVnv0

[Limonovshchina]

White nationalism is kinda cringe ngl. It’s dog water dowsed in dog shit. I just wanna hang out with my homies of all races, not say “you genocided us!” And “No! You genocided us!” Over and over until,the universe dies, fuck white nationalism, fuck any races nationalism, just hang out with the homies.

I hope by 'kinda cringe' you mean an active terrorist threat which should be dealt with impunity. Otherwise it'd be arguably the understatement of the year

[Disgraces]

White nationalism is kinda cringe ngl. It’s dog water dowsed in dog shit. I just wanna hang out with my homies of all races, not say “you genocided us!” And “No! You genocided us!” Over and over until,the universe dies, fuck white nationalism, fuck any races nationalism, just hang out with the homies.

I hope by 'kinda cringe' you mean an active terrorist threat which should be dealt with impunity. Otherwise it'd be arguably the understatement of the year

Way to overreact

[Sweitchland]

White nationalism is kinda cringe ngl. It’s dog water dowsed in dog shit. I just wanna hang out with my homies of all races, not say “you genocided us!” And “No! You genocided us!” Over and over until,the universe dies, fuck white nationalism, fuck any races nationalism, just hang out with the homies.

Even on both sides of an argument, we can all agree to this.

[Sweitchland]

I have, so far, provided no takes on evolution. I did provide one take on your take on evolution, demonstrating that you had not provided enough evidence to support your argument.

"2 articles on the differences between humans and chimps reflected in different functions of the genes as a result of evolutionary divergence is not evidence guys, I swear!"

My god this is embarrassing coming from supposedly "the smartest of all". Another self-own for the record.

I asked for more information on Covid mortality statistics in one thread, providing an example of some incomplete data that didn't support a conclusion being referenced, and asked for more data. The thread slid so fast, I didn't get back into it - you're welcome to bring that back up, in context.

I said:

You were caught lying, and now you want to double down and shift the goalposts instead of owning up your mistakes. Typical. Children in the 0 - 17 age group did die in the hundreds (~500) in the US, and they also report Long Covid symptoms after infection.

Bragging about how succinct you are while writing things like "wItHiN yOuR rHeToRiCaL mOdE" is simply pathetic. Oh, and did I mention you have difficulties formulating a coherent structure for your arguments?

By this time the death count has gone up to 600. And here's a review of relevant studies in children with Long Covid.

I also did post a quote from one of Kalergi's books. I don't think I provided much of an explanation or theory about it. Some questions were asked.

LOL.

I would press the button.

Then I would sit back, sipping vodka and eating rice noodles while I watched Russian tanks roll into Berlin, met with tears of joy by the cheering crowd, liberated from the brutal oppression of their Kalergi Plan government after almost 80 years of foreign occupation.

(Image)

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What you're doing here, quite embarrassingly to yourself, is drawing the line from "raw information and questions" to "we found a witch/wrongthinker/conspiracy theorist/(insert next historical title)" and, more than anything, this just reflects on you having some psychological barriers you don't really need, which are living in your head without paying you rent.

The fact that you brazenly tried to gaslight me is absolutely hilarious, since your posts remain public for everyone to see. I drew my conclusions from your own words, not "psychological barriers living rent-free in my head" or whatever crap you invent in your imagination next. When are you going to stop lying, my guy?

It's actually a logical operation you didn't understand - I refer you to the disjunction introduction, and to the Gettier problem which is the most interesting example in which it is encountered. I made, like, a funny reference to this, but you clearly didn't understand it. So, I suggest you look into that, and come back when you understand that "People need water to survive, or, the sky is always purple" is a true statement.

Pseudo-philosophical examples are always the biggest examples of comedy I've witnessed, because people practicing it do not even have a clue what they are talking about. "Licensing opinions" is not a fact or observation, it is an opinion. You don't even obey the basic formula of disjunction introduction, yet you keep embarrassing yourself with more beating-around-the-bush BS.

Upon reflection, I can see how someone who will so proudly put on display a basic failure to understand "operations with verbal logic" might need to rely on psychological barriers and fuzzy heuristics to understand what they're looking at, since they can't compute it in the raw. But, this is really your own problem, and you need to solve it for yourself. I have my schedule full explaining complicated things that no one understands, and do not currently have time to explain to you a simple thing that you don't want to understand.

Upon reflection, I can see how someone caught in their BS can not coherently explain their actions, but instead relies on petty insults to other people's intelligence or state of mind to avoid digging themselves deeper into failure. But really, this is your own problem, not mine. If you want people to understand what the hell you're talking about, then perhaps you should learn the art of going straight to the point.

Analyzed formally, what you've put into this post so far has been:

You don't do any analysis, you only bury people under a constant stream of irrelevant and meaningless words that fall apart upon examination.

- Accusing me of having heretical viewpoints I have never formally stated,

You did, your own words reflect that. You can't gaslight me.

inferred from questions, which were clearly good questions since they were not easily answered,

I did provide replies, you just conveniently ignore them when they are contrary to your narrative.

and unrelated to the topic of the thread, similar to the "remember that bad thing you did five years ago" as an argument in a sexual relationship row

Not strictly unrelated, they were examples serving as potential causes that would lead to a hypothetical rejection of your application for an opinion license (itself a threadjack on your part), which is ironic considering that you constantly talked about how you're an ever-so-cool protagonist of the thread, or that you possess infinite IQ, or that you are higher than everyone else. This isn't even a case of "remember that bad thing you did five years ago", since your account is barely a month old, and you have always peddled BS about your superiority since the start. It's a running pattern, not an isolated incident.

- in the context of a thread in which I spent five pages refuting weak arguments against the OP until it burned out and I refuted him myself with a stronger argument, which demonstrates that sometimes, my lessons are about means and not ends,

"Refuting weak arguments against the OP" is a nice euphemism for getting destroyed.

- Doubling down on your own failure to understand a disjunction introduction, an elementary form of logic,

You don't even adhere to the original formula of the disjunction introduction in your first argument, and now you keep embarrassing yourself by referring to it.

- The "I know what you are but what am I" argument, from kindergarten.

Where was this? Bold words about kindergarten when you always harrumph about your intellectual superiority like a 12-year-old when he/she scored triple digits on an online IQ test.

In the sense that none of this follows coherently from the subject of the thread, and some it is just your raw syntax error, this is all nonsense.

I don't threadjack with endless, meaningless displays of intellectual superiority, nor do I say easily refutable BS like "Liberalism is a religion" and "Christianity is an ideology".

The overall impression I get from this, is that of an immature, angry person, with whom further intervention would generate very low returns for the interventionist, though it could be of some help to you, yourself.

Help yourself, I guess.

Tell me about immaturity again when you have done posturing about your pseudo-knowledge. The overall impression I get from you is someone who is so insecure about his intellect that he must say he is the best in many of his posts like prayers to affirm his imaginary superiority.

You, sir, unlike Kaczynskisatva, have provided no information on the actual topic, the only sentences I've read out of you are from comedic stand points, unlike Kaczynskisatva who is trying to use actual information to debate.

[Picairn]

You, sir, unlike Kaczynskisatva, have provided no information on the actual topic, the only sentences I've read out of you are from comedic stand points, unlike Kaczynskisatva who is trying to use actual information to debate.

Swing and a miss. That's strike one.

You have two more chances. Scroll back and read the thread before making nonsensical posts like this.

[Sweitchland]

You, sir, unlike Kaczynskisatva, have provided no information on the actual topic, the only sentences I've read out of you are from comedic stand points, unlike Kaczynskisatva who is trying to use actual information to debate.

Swing and a miss. That's strike one.

You have two more chances. Scroll back and read the thread before making nonsensical posts like this.

This is exactly my point, you make statements without closely observing the contents of it.

[Picairn]

This is exactly my point, you make statements without closely observing the contents of it.

Don't you know that vague claims are meaningless? Evaluate.

And why are you getting in between our conversation anyway? Is Kaczynskisatva your alt?

[Sweitchland]

This is exactly my point, you make statements without closely observing the contents of it.

Don't you know that vague claims are meaningless? Evaluate.

And why are you getting in between our conversation anyway? Is Kaczynskisatva your alt?

First, I'm observing what's happening in this argument. From what I can see, you don't have enough factual evidence to rival Kaczynskisatva's.
And while it is decent for a short claim, it does NOT intend to support a multi-page argument.
Kaczynskisatva is not my alt, my alt's are Hanisburg and Testing Dummies

[Picairn]

First, I'm observing what's happening in this argument. From what I can see, you don't have enough factual evidence to rival Kaczynskisatva's.
And while it is decent for a short claim, it does NOT intend to support a multi-page argument.
Kaczynskisatva is not my alt, my alt's are Hanisburg and Testing Dummies

First, you are incapable of satisfying my requirement. I told you to read the thread and evaluate, but you only keep repeating the same snipes about "you are wrong and Kaczynskisatva is right" with zero evidence or support. You can't even point out exactly where my arguments were "comedic standpoints", despite my posts still in the thread.

Second, sureeeeee I totally trust you, an account randomly going into the thread and tell me I'm wrong and Kaczynskisatva is right repeatedly.

If you don't have anything else other than variations of "you are wrong and Kaczynskisatva is right", then I suggest you should stop embarrassing yourself by leaving the thread before digging a deeper hole into failure.

I'm giving you one more chance, if not you're automatically on my Foe list. I don't have time to waste with people giving unoriginal non-answers.