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Postby Albrenia » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:51 pm

Also why do we call white people white. Even pale bois like me and albinos can usually be described better as a shade of pink.

I guess Pink Supremacist doesn't sound anywhere near as dangerous.

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Postby Tarkvald » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:56 pm

No, it's not natural chemistry. It's quite easy to tell your preferences have been shaped by experience, just as mine have. I don't have any friends that are the same race as me.
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Postby Kerwa » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:56 pm

Ifreann wrote:Your explanation for why you care about European identity seems to mostly be making excuses for joining a white nationalist gang in prison and in general being a white nationalist, and just sort of breezes past how you supposedly like European "music, films, literature and general culture". Like, what the fuck even is European music? Shitloads of music gets made in Europe, of wildly varying style and genre. Both Darude and Lordi have represented Finland in the Eurovision.


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Postby Kaczynskisatva » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:01 pm

Albrenia wrote:I guess Pink Supremacist doesn't sound anywhere near as dangerous.


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Postby Arvenia » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:02 pm

Kaczynskisatva wrote:
Albrenia wrote:I guess Pink Supremacist doesn't sound anywhere near as dangerous.


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Postby Kaczynskisatva » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:04 pm

It is the first thing that came to my mind when I googled my inner mind for "pink supremacist."

Now, you all have to live with the deranged fruits of my free-association.

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Postby Kubra » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:06 pm

Kaczynskisatva wrote:Not with stew. But, is anyone suggesting that we trust British cuisine, at this point?

I mean - think about it. Who colonizes all of India, and still cannot figure out how to use spices?

Really.

I love white people, I really do - I love all people. But, even the most hardcore white identitarian will not be caught drunk and naked arguing for the preservation of anglo-saxon food. There may be something they will definitely stand on a hill and try to preserve, but it's not that. Some things truly belong in the dustbin of history.
Which is exactly my point: these aren't "european's", but accursed anglo-saxons. Worse, *americans*, who won't even add worcestershire to meat.
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Postby -Astoria- » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:09 pm

Kaczynskisatva wrote:It is the first thing that came to my mind when I googled my inner mind for "pink supremacist."

Now, you all have to live with the deranged fruits of my free-association.

Then how about Pink supremacists?
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Postby New haven america » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:10 pm

Kubra wrote:
Kaczynskisatva wrote:Not with stew. But, is anyone suggesting that we trust British cuisine, at this point?

I mean - think about it. Who colonizes all of India, and still cannot figure out how to use spices?

Really.

I love white people, I really do - I love all people. But, even the most hardcore white identitarian will not be caught drunk and naked arguing for the preservation of anglo-saxon food. There may be something they will definitely stand on a hill and try to preserve, but it's not that. Some things truly belong in the dustbin of history.
Which is exactly my point: these aren't "european's", but accursed anglo-saxons. Worse, *americans*, who won't even add worcestershire to meat.

That's actually because English food has evolved over the centuries with the idea that good food shouldn't need spices to taste good, you should only be able to taste the meat or veggies and spice is just pampering bad tasting food. WWII didn't help anything either with rationing restrictions.

Why yes, Ireland and Scotland do have better food than England does, if you were wondering.
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Postby Kubra » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:14 pm

New haven america wrote:
Kubra wrote: Which is exactly my point: these aren't "european's", but accursed anglo-saxons. Worse, *americans*, who won't even add worcestershire to meat.

That's actually because English food has evolved over the centuries that good food shouldn't need spices to taste good, you should only be able to taste the meat or veggies and spice is just pampering bad tasting food. WWII didn't help anything either with rationing restrictions.

Why yes, Ireland and Scotland do have better food than England does, if you were wondering.
>you should only be able to taste the meat or veggies.
Philistine. Even artisanal heritage heirloom cultivar's of potatoes are still at the end of the day potatoes, unless dipped in peanut or curry based dip, or else smothered in gravy and the freshest of cheese curds.
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Postby Necroghastia » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:31 pm

Albrenia wrote:Also why do we call white people white. Even pale bois like me and albinos can usually be described better as a shade of pink.

I guess Pink Supremacist doesn't sound anywhere near as dangerous.

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Postby Kathol Rift » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:35 pm

Ideas like this always boggle me, because do these people honestly think that a Swede and an Italian share the same culture and ancestry in any way? Or a Romanian and a Scot? And since for some reason America seemed to be included in that, what about a Spaniard and a Midwesterner whose family came from Germany eight generations ago? There really isn't any uniting feature beyond "Skin lighter than people from other continents" there.
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Postby Galactic Transylvania » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:40 pm

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It's almost like a continent that is home to many states - most if not all of which have well defined native ethnicities - that at many times in history were in fact in violent competition with each other does not, necessarily, have a unified ethnic identity.

Americans who create some "European Identity" in an attempt to create a unified meaningful 'white nation' really have no idea, in my experience, what they are talking about.

I dare OP to go tell a Serb he and a Bosnian are part of the 'same identity.' He isn't going to take as kindly to it as OP clearly thinks.

To be fair, half these white supremacist assholes don't count Slavic people or Southern Europeans as "European" (they probably don't count Romanians either even though they're Romance language speakers not Slavic language speakers).


Yes. Because a "European Identity" doesn't inherently exist among likeminded people to OP in actual Europe.

Not to mention that using "white" as an identifier is inherently arbitrary and meaningless, seeing the vast differences culturally and in appearance among the many, many different people that could be considered "white" depending on who you ask.
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Postby Arvenia » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:42 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Albrenia wrote:Also why do we call white people white. Even pale bois like me and albinos can usually be described better as a shade of pink.

I guess Pink Supremacist doesn't sound anywhere near as dangerous.

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Postby Disgraces » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:44 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Albrenia wrote:Also why do we call white people white. Even pale bois like me and albinos can usually be described better as a shade of pink.

I guess Pink Supremacist doesn't sound anywhere near as dangerous.

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Lol I was thinking about that
Kathol Rift wrote:Ideas like this always boggle me, because do these people honestly think that a Swede and an Italian share the same culture and ancestry in any way? Or a Romanian and a Scot? And since for some reason America seemed to be included in that, what about a Spaniard and a Midwesterner whose family came from Germany eight generations ago? There really isn't any uniting feature beyond "Skin lighter than people from other continents" there.

Yeah, nationality, ethnicity and race are dumb concepts honestly
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Postby Kaczynskisatva » Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:21 pm

Disgraces wrote:Yeah, nationality, ethnicity and race are dumb concepts honestly


Yeah - Man does not get along well with himself, and forms of life compete for natural resources. This is not really unique to humans, but within humans, the group competition strategies also occur, and the lines drawn are descriptively nominated as "nationality, ethnicity, and race" when not described as ideology. When described as ideology, these ideologies usually line up pretty well with "nationality, ethnicity, and race" descriptions. In other cases, when they are blatantly intra-group mutiny, they result in the creation of new natural groups if you sit on them for a few centuries. It is assumed that all natural groups started off that way.

"What's mine is mine, and what's yours is also mine" is a pretty not-dumb concept. After all, I want stuff, and if you have stuff, I also want that stuff.

Some people just go manic with this, and they outbred everyone who is just chill before history began to be recorded.

So, only those people's descendants are alive now, and it's you and me.

As for chill people, it does make life easier to be chill and content with what you have, but if you want to do that, you still have to deal with everyone who wants to form a gang and take your stuff, which is a pretty proven and successful strategy. The organization of nations and states and so on does not really change this organic reality. When it's not a paradise, Earth is a cage, and we are fighters in that cage. Like all prisons, you either join a gang or you are vulnerable to other gangs.

The most you can hope for out of this situation, is good organization within these gangs, stable diplomacy on the basis of mutual interests and recognition of the mutual risks of conflict between these gangs, and borders clearly defined by natural obstacles. You can call them "peoples" if you want to make it seem historical, noble and epic - it is sort of that, but it's also sort of just as primitive as what I described.

Anyone who doesn't understand Man in this way is basically ignorant of the brutal violence of his recorded history - which is most people. Once you do understand it, you can sort of see these inter-group conflicts in the same way as you can see NATO/EU and Russia/China barking at each other (or being barked at) from the sides of their electric/nuclear fences, which are the most brilliant thing mankind has ever constructed, and the hideous reflection of our soul, as order only comes with the credible threat of otherworldly violence. Even without the opportunity to loot and plunder your neighbors, the instinct is still there, as red as blood. Group conflict is just hybrid warfare, trying to scratch the itch of looting your neighbor through some-other-means, the "color revolution" of civil politics.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:27 pm

Kathol Rift wrote:Ideas like this always boggle me, because do these people honestly think that a Swede and an Italian share the same culture and ancestry in any way? Or a Romanian and a Scot? And since for some reason America seemed to be included in that, what about a Spaniard and a Midwesterner whose family came from Germany eight generations ago? There really isn't any uniting feature beyond "Skin lighter than people from other continents" there.


We are really viewed by some as a monolithic culture. I mean, I do understand that we can say we're European, in general, in terms of fostering commerce or playing ball in the union. But there's no such thing as a homogenous European culture. And to then group it over skin color is... idiotic.
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Postby MaxCorp » Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:30 pm

How many times have you tried again and again to open this topic lol.
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Postby Kaczynskisatva » Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:30 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:We are really viewed by some as a monolithic culture. I mean, I do understand that we can say we're European, in general, in terms of fostering commerce or playing ball in the union. But there's no such thing as a homogenous European culture. And to then group it over skin color is... idiotic.


I did this one here.
Kaczynskisatva wrote:Poland, as an overwhelmingly Catholic country, shares a lot of culture with, for example, Italy, on that basis and on other basis of shared history - running up to the present, as both are now client states of the NATO/EU empire and have their metaculture imposed on them.

(One of the greatest crimes of history, really, has been the latinization of the Polish language, which is absolutely confusing and hideous to look at in latin letters - if you would read it in cyrillic, it would suddenly make sense, but as it is now written, it is a cube being forcibly smashed into a circular hole by an angry, retarded child. To read it is like trying to read latinizations of Russian location names on the metro - you find yourself slowly mouthing through them like a child learning to read, but then if you see them in the cyrillic meant to contain them, they shine through like the light of dawn. This is, I assume, the perpetual experience of being Polish, and this observation is in parenthesis because, I think, most people could not relate to it directly, but the common meta-language / alphabetic system is a good example of this common metaculture)

Obviously, these places also have their own local, cultural differences. Even people within official states have different local cultures, the Scots and the English for example, or the Castillians and the Catalonians. These two pairs of cultural groups have differences between them, but they also have a culture in common which is not shared by people outside the club, like Tibetians. If a Polack and an Italian both found themselves in a bar in Beijing surrounded by Chinese people, the odds of them sitting together and chatting are high enough above random to be statistically significant.


I also did this, in better detail, in an earlier post discussing the continuity of Rome, Christendom and NATO/EU. If you're going to make a point that's already been refuted, address the refutation, don't just remake the point.

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Postby Risottia » Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:31 pm

Indomitable Friendship wrote:Euro Identity (blah blah snip)

For some reason, I suspect that you're not European but American. Right?

Ffs, quit appropriating our identity. Your ancestors crossed the pond and found themselves a new country.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:34 pm

Kaczynskisatva wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:We are really viewed by some as a monolithic culture. I mean, I do understand that we can say we're European, in general, in terms of fostering commerce or playing ball in the union. But there's no such thing as a homogenous European culture. And to then group it over skin color is... idiotic.


I did this one here.
Kaczynskisatva wrote:Poland, as an overwhelmingly Catholic country, shares a lot of culture with, for example, Italy, on that basis and on other basis of shared history - running up to the present, as both are now client states of the NATO/EU empire and have their metaculture imposed on them.

(One of the greatest crimes of history, really, has been the latinization of the Polish language, which is absolutely confusing and hideous to look at in latin letters - if you would read it in cyrillic, it would suddenly make sense, but as it is now written, it is a cube being forcibly smashed into a circular hole by an angry, retarded child. To read it is like trying to read latinizations of Russian location names on the metro - you find yourself slowly mouthing through them like a child learning to read, but then if you see them in the cyrillic meant to contain them, they shine through like the light of dawn. This is, I assume, the perpetual experience of being Polish, and this observation is in parenthesis because, I think, most people could not relate to it directly, but the common meta-language / alphabetic system is a good example of this common metaculture)

Obviously, these places also have their own local, cultural differences. Even people within official states have different local cultures, the Scots and the English for example, or the Castillians and the Catalonians. These two pairs of cultural groups have differences between them, but they also have a culture in common which is not shared by people outside the club, like Tibetians. If a Polack and an Italian both found themselves in a bar in Beijing surrounded by Chinese people, the odds of them sitting together and chatting are high enough above random to be statistically significant.


I also did this, in better detail, in an earlier post discussing the continuity of Rome, Christendom and NATO/EU. If you're going to make a point that's already been refuted, address the refutation, don't just remake the point.


My post is not addressed to you either way so I'm not sure why you're getting bothered. Did I ask you to answer me? No. Simple. Bye! :)
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Postby Risottia » Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:36 pm

Kaczynskisatva wrote:Prior to this, the white monoculture was "Christendom."


St.Augustine would beg to differ.
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Postby Kaczynskisatva » Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:36 pm

Yes, but, your point is addressed directly. We do not know each other, no one here knows anyone else here, and if they imagine that they do, this is really sad and they need another social activity. All that is real here is the text on the screen, the dialogue itself. That is the only thing that is real for everyone involved. If you want fake friends, get social media.

Risottia wrote:St.Augustine would beg to differ.


Not an argument.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 23, 2021 3:37 pm

Kaczynskisatva wrote:Yes, but, your point is addressed directly. We do not know each other, no one here knows anyone else here, and if they imagine that they do, this is really sad and they need another social activity. All that is real here is the text on the screen, the dialogue itself. That is the only thing that is real for everyone involved. If you want fake friends, get social media.


And I don't care that you seem to think my point was addressed by you and refuted or whatever. Get off social media.
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