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Postby Vassenor » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:06 am

New Tryphalia wrote:
Dakini wrote:I mean, it's still a total fabrication, but every Swedish person I know would tell you off for trying to rope them into your racist fantasies.


see also: America


Invoking non existent racism is a typical dodge and red herring for the Snopes believing crowd. You believe that false fact checker with all of the irrational zeal of a Jehovah’s Witness.


So what does the real evidence say?
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Postby Zordennox » Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:00 pm

Indomitable Friendship wrote:
Albrenia wrote:I mean, does it really matter if population ratios change, as long as they do so in a way in which nobody is denied rights, harmed or otherwise excluded?

I highly doubt white folks like us will be extinct anytime soon in the foreseeable future.


People of all races are already being dehumanized, exploited and abused. The advancement of ethnic blocs is a good way to counter the globalization machine that seeks to reduce us all into universal cattle. Freedom of association should be a fundamental human right available to all, as should sovereignty from government nation-states.


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Postby Vassenor » Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:02 pm

Zordennox wrote:
Indomitable Friendship wrote:
People of all races are already being dehumanized, exploited and abused. The advancement of ethnic blocs is a good way to counter the globalization machine that seeks to reduce us all into universal cattle. Freedom of association should be a fundamental human right available to all, as should sovereignty from government nation-states.


I shall second this.



Based on what reasoning?
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Postby Zordennox » Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:08 pm

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The race war bullshit you were JUST ranting about?

I mean history has shown multi ethnic states can't last forever. Just look at Austria-Hungary, Cyprus, and Yugoslavia, all 3 collapsed due to ethnic conflict. It wouldn't be illogical to assume a nation as vast and multi cultural as the US could face a similar fate.


Very honest observation. I shall second this as well.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:19 pm

https://komonews.com/amp/news/nation-wo ... rade-crash

Prosecutor: 6th person, a child, has died in deadly Wisconsin parade crash

The suspect in the deadly crash, Darrell Brooks Jr., was charged with five counts of intentional homicide. Conviction on first-degree intentional homicide carries a mandatory life sentence, Wisconsin's stiffest penalty. Prosecutors said more charges are pending following the child's death.

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Postby The Lone Alliance » Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:33 pm

So this guy has a record of running people over in his car already?

Please tell me he was driving without a license....
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Postby Neuer California » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:23 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:This is Terrorism, the Running from the Cops excuse is only being used so the Media and Government won't admit that Domestic Terrorist attacks are going back to pre Trump Levels.

Reminder that most American terrorism comes from the far right and that the high point in terrorism was hit in 2020, when Trump was in office
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Postby James_xenoland » Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:49 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://komonews.com/amp/news/nation-world/prosecutor-6th-person-a-child-has-died-in-deadly-wisconsin-parade-crash

Prosecutor: 6th person, a child, has died in deadly Wisconsin parade crash

The suspect in the deadly crash, Darrell Brooks Jr., was charged with five counts of intentional homicide. Conviction on first-degree intentional homicide carries a mandatory life sentence, Wisconsin's stiffest penalty. Prosecutors said more charges are pending following the child's death.

:( ....... RIP



The Lone Alliance wrote:So this guy has a record of running people over in his car already?

Please tell me he was driving without a license....

It certainly seems that way.. In fact, the way it's been worded makes it liekly to be the very thing he was out on $1,000 bail for!
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Postby Imperium of Dragonia » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:45 pm

Neuer California wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:This is Terrorism, the Running from the Cops excuse is only being used so the Media and Government won't admit that Domestic Terrorist attacks are going back to pre Trump Levels.

Reminder that most American terrorism comes from the far right and that the high point in terrorism was hit in 2020, when Trump was in office

Let me guess, you're also one of those people who think the Jan 6th protest was a coup just because it felt like one.
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Postby Albrenia » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:47 pm

Imperium of Dragonia wrote:
Neuer California wrote:Reminder that most American terrorism comes from the far right and that the high point in terrorism was hit in 2020, when Trump was in office

Let me guess, you're also one of those people who think the Jan 6th protest was a coup just because it felt like one.


What else would you call attempting to stop a lawfully elected President from gaining office, by force?

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Postby The Second JELLIAN Republic » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:52 pm

Imperium of Dragonia wrote:
Neuer California wrote:Reminder that most American terrorism comes from the far right and that the high point in terrorism was hit in 2020, when Trump was in office

Let me guess, you're also one of those people who think the Jan 6th protest was a coup just because it felt like one.


If it looks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck, its a duck…
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Postby Neuer California » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:39 pm

Imperium of Dragonia wrote:
Neuer California wrote:Reminder that most American terrorism comes from the far right and that the high point in terrorism was hit in 2020, when Trump was in office

Let me guess, you're also one of those people who think the Jan 6th protest was a coup just because it felt like one.

I call it an insurrection, and irrelevant to this topic.
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Postby James_xenoland » Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:06 am

Imperium of Dragonia wrote:
Neuer California wrote:Reminder that most American terrorism comes from the far right and that the high point in terrorism was hit in 2020, when Trump was in office

Let me guess, you're also one of those people who think the Jan 6th protest was a coup just because it felt like one.


Hey, don't joke around... I'm sure that if they didn't forget to take their guns instead of their phones and, you know, generally actually tried to do something.... other than take the tour (and pictures), it could have been a totally different story! *nods*

Also, I thought it was an assassination attempt, or was that an attempt to rape AOC..... or is it still being called a terrorist attack now that most of the other false narratives debunked early on are finally becoming unignorable?
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:09 am

James_xenoland wrote:
Imperium of Dragonia wrote:Let me guess, you're also one of those people who think the Jan 6th protest was a coup just because it felt like one.


Hey, don't joke around... I'm sure that if they didn't forget to take their guns instead of their phones and, you know, generally actually tried to do something.... other than take the tour (and pictures), it could have been a totally different story! *nods*

Also, I thought it was an assassination attempt, or was that an attempt to rape AOC..... or is it still being called a terrorist attack now that most of the other false narratives debunked early on are finally becoming unignorable?


So what was all the HANG MIKE PENCE all about? What was the gallows they built outside all about?

What was the whole thing about if not to forcibly overturn the result because they can’t accept that their Dear Leader lost a free and fair election?
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Postby Albrenia » Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:59 am

James_xenoland wrote:Also, I thought it was an assassination attempt, or was that an attempt to rape AOC..... or is it still being called a terrorist attack now that most of the other false narratives debunked early on are finally becoming unignorable?


I never heard anyone seriously claim it was a crowd-based assassination attempt or rape attempt, that's just weird. Although the whole 'violence and instilling fear for political ends' thing could technically make it a terrorist act, it was clearly an attempt to 'Stop The Steal', either by intimidation or perhaps outright harm to those involved.

I can't believe some people are blind enough to think people who set up gallows, break windows for access and force doors open are just tourists.

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Postby New Tryphalia » Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:31 am

Albrenia wrote:
James_xenoland wrote:Also, I thought it was an assassination attempt, or was that an attempt to rape AOC..... or is it still being called a terrorist attack now that most of the other false narratives debunked early on are finally becoming unignorable?


I never heard anyone seriously claim it was a crowd-based assassination attempt or rape attempt, that's just weird. Although the whole 'violence and instilling fear for political ends' thing could technically make it a terrorist act, it was clearly an attempt to 'Stop The Steal', either by intimidation or perhaps outright harm to those involved.

I can't believe some people are blind enough to think people who set up gallows, break windows for access and force doors open are just tourists.


I’m only pissed that their attempted coup was wasted on behalf of a sniveling coward like Donald Trump. He has utterly betrayed the economic populist ideas that got him elected.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:32 am

Albrenia wrote:
James_xenoland wrote:Also, I thought it was an assassination attempt, or was that an attempt to rape AOC..... or is it still being called a terrorist attack now that most of the other false narratives debunked early on are finally becoming unignorable?


I never heard anyone seriously claim it was a crowd-based assassination attempt or rape attempt, that's just weird. Although the whole 'violence and instilling fear for political ends' thing could technically make it a terrorist act, it was clearly an attempt to 'Stop The Steal', either by intimidation or perhaps outright harm to those involved.

I can't believe some people are blind enough to think people who set up gallows, break windows for access and force doors open are just tourists.


Beating police officers with a fire extinguisher is totally tourist behaviour.

Strangely no word from the BACK THE BLUE crowd over it since then though.
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Postby TerminalSadness » Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:54 am

Albrenia wrote:
James_xenoland wrote:Also, I thought it was an assassination attempt, or was that an attempt to rape AOC..... or is it still being called a terrorist attack now that most of the other false narratives debunked early on are finally becoming unignorable?


I never heard anyone seriously claim it was a crowd-based assassination attempt or rape attempt, that's just weird. Although the whole 'violence and instilling fear for political ends' thing could technically make it a terrorist act, it was clearly an attempt to 'Stop The Steal', either by intimidation or perhaps outright harm to those involved.

I can't believe some people are blind enough to think people who set up gallows, break windows for access and force doors open are just tourists.

Wasn't that just AOC personally comparing this situation to the time she was sexual assaulted? Anyways the angry mob had at least one guy carrying around zip ties and another calling out for AOC to come out as well as others. I don't know what their end game could have even looked like had they had any serious intentions or actual coordination considering most of them were only armed with their fists.

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Postby Cereskia 2 » Wed Nov 24, 2021 2:59 am

I do remember of another thread talking about another car plowing through the crowd, though I can't recall the case name.

But I know the thread was made in late 2020
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Postby Risottia » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:40 am

Christian Confederation wrote:I mean history has shown multi ethnic states can't last forever. Just look at Austria-Hungary, Cyprus, and Yugoslavia, all 3 collapsed due to ethnic conflict.

Wrong.
A-H collapsed because they lost a war. Cyprus is partly occupied by Turkey.

That's why nations like Communist China, ... Russia...

PRC is a multiethnic country. Uyghurs, Tibetans, Manchu, Miao, Mongols...
Russia is a multinational federation. Russians, Karelians, Tatars, Komi, Yakuts, Jews (yes, there's Birobidzhan!), Chechens, Alans...
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Postby Galloism » Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:43 am

Found the prosecution complaint

There was a chase... of a sort. After he was already in the parade and people were having to jump out of the way, not before, an officer pursued him on foot. He also accelerated into the crowd after the police officer confronted him for driving through the parade. Then, when an exit appeared... he accelerated and turned back into the crowd which they argue was an intentional act intended to just kill more people.

At approximately 4:35 p.m., Detective Casey heard via the Waukesha police radio that a
reserve officer was informed by a citizen that two people were fighting in the area of White
Rock School. Squads were sent to that area to further investigate. A few minutes later,
Detective Casey heard a horn honking from an area north of his location. Detective Casey
went out onto White Rock Avenue to see where the horn sound was coming from. He
observed that White Rock Avenue was filled with parade participants, as was East Main Street.
He began to see people spreading apart and observed a red Ford Escape driving southbound
on White Rock Avenue. He observed people jumping out of the way of the red Ford Escape.
As the Ford Escape was at White Rock Avenue and East Main Street, Detective Casey
stepped in front of the Ford Escape and pounded on the hood of the vehicle and yelled
multiple times, “Stop.” Detective Casey was wearing a shirt with patches on both shoulders
that stated, “Waukesha Police”, as well as wearing a black hat with white letters on the front of
the hat which stated “Police”. Further, he was wearing a neon orange safety vest that stated
“Police” on the front and back of it.

The Ford Escape continued driving and turned westbound on East Main Street. At that time,
the vehicle was driving at a slow speed and the vehicle brushed Detective Casey back off of
the front of the car, causing him to be positioned down the driver’s side of the vehicle.
Detective Casey went to the driver’s side window and pounded on the driver’s side door
yelling, “Stop”. Detective Casey subsequently positively identified the driver of the Ford
Escape as Darrell E. Brooks, Jr., DOB: 2/21/82, hereinafter referred to as the defendant. The
defendant drove past Detective Casey and into the parade procession. Detective Casey
chased the vehicle to East Avenue on foot and he observed the vehicle begin to drive faster.
Detective Casey broadcast over the radio that the red Ford Escape had entered the parade
route and he needed squads to respond in an emergency fashion. A few seconds later,
Detective Casey heard on the police radio that the vehicle was striking people and was
continuing westbound on East Main Street.

The vehicle then got to the intersection of East Main Street and NW Barstow Street, and it
appeared the brakes were activated. Office Butryn believed the vehicle was going to come to a
stop and attempt to make a right hand turn out of the parade route, onto NW Barstow Street.
However, the vehicle then appeared to rapidly accelerate, as Officer Butryn heard tires squeal.
The vehicle took an abrupt left turn into the crowd of parade participants. At this point, it was
clear to Officer Butryn that this was an intentional act to strike and hurt as many people as
possible. Officer Butryn continued to run westbound on East Main Street, trailing the vehicle
and its path. He observed the vehicle appeared to be intentionally moving side to side, striking
multiple people, and bodies and objects were flying from the area of the vehicle. As Officer
Butryn got to the area of the Subway restaurant on East Main Street, Officer Butryn began to
encounter multiple casualties. Multiple people were pulling at him, saying that they needed
assistance with injured parties. Based on the on-going threat of the vehicle and the occupant,
Officer Butryn asked those assisting with the casualties as he passed, if they were breathing,
and advised them to stay with them and that ambulances were on the way. Officer Butryn
continued to chase after the vehicle on foot in order to stop the threat the driver posed.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:53 am

Galloism wrote:Found the prosecution complaint

There was a chase... of a sort. After he was already in the parade and people were having to jump out of the way, not before. He also accelerated into the crowd after the police officer confronted him for driving through the parade. Then, when an exit appeared... he accelerated and turned back into the crowd which they argue was an intentional act intended to just kill more people.

Holy fucking shit.

If this is true, then, this is far worse than stupid criminal being stupid this is a deliberate malicious attack.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:57 am

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Galloism wrote:Found the prosecution complaint

There was a chase... of a sort. After he was already in the parade and people were having to jump out of the way, not before. He also accelerated into the crowd after the police officer confronted him for driving through the parade. Then, when an exit appeared... he accelerated and turned back into the crowd which they argue was an intentional act intended to just kill more people.

Holy fucking shit.

If this is true, then, this is far worse than stupid criminal being stupid this is a deliberate malicious attack.

Yes, but keep in mind, this is the prosecution's version of events. Thus it will be slanted in the most favorable light for the prosecution.
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Postby Galloism » Wed Nov 24, 2021 5:07 am

Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby Seangoli » Wed Nov 24, 2021 6:54 am

Galloism wrote:
The Lone Alliance wrote:Holy fucking shit.

If this is true, then, this is far worse than stupid criminal being stupid this is a deliberate malicious attack.

Yes, but keep in mind, this is the prosecution's version of events. Thus it will be slanted in the most favorable light for the prosecution.


I think its worth noting that this can be downgraded by Wisconsin statute even if a jury finds he didn't act with the explicit intent to kill people, but rather acted with intent to commit an act that any person would view as causing death or harm to another (much like other states, however Wisconsin seems to lay out the rules as such much more clearly). Basically, at best he is likely looking at multiple counts of First Degree Reckless homicide, which carries a 60-year penalty in Wisconsin. That is assuming the state cant prove specific intent to kill. With six counts so far, and several dozen injured beyond that, that's basically a life sentence and I doubt very much the courts would be lenient in sentencing.

So basically, Wisconsin doesn't need to successfully argue specific intent to kill, and even if they are unable to prove this the "downgraded" charges that will likely be levied are a life sentence. Basically, the State has no real reason to concern themselves with overcharging him in this specific case, as Wisconsin allows downgrading charges by statute in cases of where intent is questioned.

Just as a point of discussion, across the river in Minnesota this would actually be Murder 2, which actually doesn't require specific intent to kill a person, but rather specific intent to commit an act that would likely kill a person. It's somewhat interesting the nuances of laws between states.
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