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Postby The Lone Alliance » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:34 pm

The Second JELLIAN Republic wrote:So the incident was part of a larger thing going on ?

From what I'm gathering it's: Criminal commits crime, criminal flees crime scene, parade is in the way of his fleeing, criminal decides that's the parade's problem not his.

Some people keep claiming that he was being chased by police without evidence... which I don't get, why are people going through so much effort to try to look for the justification of the criminal's behavior?

He was a shitty criminal who didn't care about anyone but himself, there's no need for there be a complicated motive than that, it's highly likely that his political views, ideological views, race or what not had anything to do with his behavior.
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Postby Antipatros » Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:58 am

It seems like a brainlet move to drive through a huge crowd of people while you're trying to flee the scene of another crime.

He's probably going to spend the rest of his life in prison over this. If his goal was to stay out of prison he did a really bad job of it.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:08 am

Indomitable Friendship wrote:BTW, I will publicly say I regret rushing to the race issue. It was a mistake of me and while I do think it is a very real possibility, I shouldn't have been so quick on the trigger. Given the Rittenhouse affair, it seems very plausible.


"I was wrong but I could have been right and still think I should have been" is not really an apology at all.
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Postby Antipatros » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:12 am

The other thing I don't get is, if he's trying to run away, why doesn't he make a turn at one of the intersections in order to avoid the crowd? He could have easily done so.

Do we know if he was on drugs or something?

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Postby The Alma Mater » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:37 am

Antipatros wrote:The other thing I don't get is, if he's trying to run away, why doesn't he make a turn at one of the intersections in order to avoid the crowd? He could have easily done so.

Do we know if he was on drugs or something?

We do not know. But why expect a stressed person to be calculating and smart ?
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Postby Dakini » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:00 am

Indomitable Friendship wrote:
The 189 wrote:
Hold up there my Aryan brother. That's not relevant at all, and it's not helpful to bring it up because it comes across like cheap point-scoring oppression Olympics stuff. We're talking about things that are going on in the US, and I'd be really surprised if any of the people involved were getting their news from African or Asian sources.

Black people are also a minority on a global scale. (I think MSF is black, but they can correct me if I guessed wrong.)



I think you are focusing too much on how these issues affect working class whites, when actually they affect working class people of any color.


Global population is extremely relevant, especially in a globalized world with unlimited immigration into Euro populated countries. Non-Euros have vastly larger birthrates than Euros and even in the USthe "White" demographic stat is padded with Arabs, mestizos/castizos. People under 18 in the US are already a majority non-White, so once boomers start croaking en masse, the numbers will be even more lopsided. While I agree intersectionality affects all races of people, I have to stay focused primarily on mine because that is the one I have the most vested interest in. On the other hand, I also don't know how those other races feel about such issues as globalism, but I certainly am not averse to cooperation when possible, but ultimately my solidarity is to my people and our future. This is less about idealism and more about practicality.

This thread is hardly the place for your racist shit.

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Lady Victory wrote:Can white nats please stop trying to make me identify with people in another continent half a world away? I don't give a fuck about my "whiteness".

Fuck off with your Light Skin Alliance fantasies.


I could care less what you identify with; it's not my business. While some in these circles may disagree with me, I think everyone is free to make their own choices about where their solidarities lie. I am a Euro man and that is part of my identity, along with my loyalty. If you don't agree, that's fine. Everyone has to walk their own path.

Where in Europe are you from?

If you're not from Europe and you haven't naturalized here, you're not fucking European.

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Dakini wrote:White American's aren't Europeans. Most Europeans seem to fucking hate it when they claim they are.


We are genetically (racially), just not culturally. That's like saying a Chinese-American isn't ethnically Chinese or Han or whatever just because they're born in California. It's just dumb, to put it bluntly.

No, it's dumb of you to claim to be from an entire fucking continent when you're not and when you're just using it for some white supremacist shit. You're fucking white. So what? Not all Europeans are white. Get the fuck over it. Stop trying to make yourself seem more sophisticated or exotic or some nonsense.

Indomitable Friendship wrote:BTW, I will publicly say I regret rushing to the race issue. It was a mistake of me and while I do think it is a very real possibility, I shouldn't have been so quick on the trigger. Given the Rittenhouse affair, it seems very plausible.

What a laugh of a non-apology.

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American here.

I fucking hate it when White Nats call me a European.


OK, if you want to be called "White", fine. I do not identify as "American", never have, never will, and find it offensive to Native Americans to do so. I am not racially indigeneous to the Americas and I do not identify with superficial cultural identities.

1. Please find any examples of Native Americans being offended by Americans calling themselves "American".
2. Like you give a fuck what Native Americans think. Please. That's about as pathetic as your non-apology for trying to claim this was a racial hate crime when there is zero evidence of that.

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Albrenia wrote:I mean, does it really matter if population ratios change, as long as they do so in a way in which nobody is denied rights, harmed or otherwise excluded?

I highly doubt white folks like us will be extinct anytime soon in the foreseeable future.


People of all races are already being dehumanized, exploited and abused. The advancement of ethnic blocs is a good way to counter the globalization machine that seeks to reduce us all into universal cattle. Freedom of association should be a fundamental human right available to all, as should sovereignty from government nation-states.

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Postby Dakini » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:06 am

The Lone Alliance wrote:
The Second JELLIAN Republic wrote:So the incident was part of a larger thing going on ?

From what I'm gathering it's: Criminal commits crime, criminal flees crime scene, parade is in the way of his fleeing, criminal decides that's the parade's problem not his.

Some people keep claiming that he was being chased by police without evidence... which I don't get, why are people going through so much effort to try to look for the justification of the criminal's behavior?

I think because of the initial phrasing that he was fleeing the scene people assumed that there was a police chase involved until the police clarified with a statement.

He was a shitty criminal who didn't care about anyone but himself, there's no need for there be a complicated motive than that, it's highly likely that his political views, ideological views, race or what not had anything to do with his behavior.

Indeed. So far only the white nationalists here seem interested in claiming that this was politically or racially motivated.

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Postby James_xenoland » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:34 am

*reads the thread*............... You guys ability to go off topic is astounding.. and this coming from someone who's been using forums like this for ~19 years! lol



Albrenia wrote:So what were the crimes the killer was bailed for? Were they violent crimes?

If so that would seem to support the idea of not overcrowding prisons with petty criminals, and being much stricter on bail for criminals guilty of violent or sexual crime.


Well according to wiki and a few other places:

Brooks had been released on bail a few days before the attack, after posting a $1,000 bond, on charges of driving over an ex-partner.[18][19] According to a criminal complaint filed on November 2, Brooks was accused of running over a woman with his car while she was walking through a gas station parking lot.


Yikes!

This wasn't any car chase gone wrong... It's going to take a lot to convince me this wasn't intentional. Now whether it was a "oh fuck, i'm out on bail and just got in a knife fight so hell with it" or the same but with "kill a bunch of white people" added onto it, isn't clear enough.. but this given with his SM history... pretty damning.
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Postby Sungoldy-China » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:38 am

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Postby Risottia » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:45 am

Sungoldy-China wrote:Death , exile, these ancient wisdoms need to return

Exile?
Explain why any other country would want to take your own criminals.
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Postby Haganham » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:50 am

Risottia wrote:
Sungoldy-China wrote:Death , exile, these ancient wisdoms need to return

Exile?
Explain why any other country would want to take your own criminals.

I don't understand it either but. *gestures at western Europe's seemingly masochistic eagerness to take in criminals from all over Afroeurasia.
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Postby Dakini » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:18 am

Haganham wrote:
Risottia wrote:Exile?
Explain why any other country would want to take your own criminals.

I don't understand it either but. *gestures at western Europe's seemingly masochistic eagerness to take in criminals from all over Afroeurasia.

I'll take "total fabrications" for 800, Alex.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:16 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Antipatros wrote:The other thing I don't get is, if he's trying to run away, why doesn't he make a turn at one of the intersections in order to avoid the crowd? He could have easily done so.

Do we know if he was on drugs or something?

We do not know. But why expect a stressed person to be calculating and smart ?

Who’s also possibly high
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:22 am

The Lone Alliance wrote:
The Second JELLIAN Republic wrote:So the incident was part of a larger thing going on ?

From what I'm gathering it's: Criminal commits crime, criminal flees crime scene, parade is in the way of his fleeing, criminal decides that's the parade's problem not his.

Some people keep claiming that he was being chased by police without evidence... which I don't get, why are people going through so much effort to try to look for the justification of the criminal's behavior?

That’s not what’s happening here. It’s not a justification of his behavior but a what led to it. And also a dose of not trusting a word the police say until an independent investigation proves otherwise.

If the police did give chase and he ran through a crowd to avoid the police then the police should be held liable for starting the chase. Obviously it goes without saying that the guy should also face time as he could have avoided the crowd but if the police where giving chase then they need to be held liable for it too.

He was a shitty criminal who didn't care about anyone but himself, there's no need for there be a complicated motive than that, it's highly likely that his political views, ideological views, race or what not had anything to do with his behavior.

It’s also highly likely he was high or drunk given that he had numerous issues with drugs and alcohol. Tbh I’m surprised that he was even allowed to drive
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Postby Rusozak » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:11 am

Risottia wrote:
Sungoldy-China wrote:Death , exile, these ancient wisdoms need to return

Exile?
Explain why any other country would want to take your own criminals.


Doesn't have to be another country. Send them to Florida.
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Postby Ifreann » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:14 am

Rusozak wrote:
Risottia wrote:Exile?
Explain why any other country would want to take your own criminals.


Doesn't have to be another country. Send them to Florida.

That's cruel to everyone involved.
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Postby New Tryphalia » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:33 am

Dakini wrote:
Haganham wrote:I don't understand it either but. *gestures at western Europe's seemingly masochistic eagerness to take in criminals from all over Afroeurasia.

I'll take "total fabrications" for 800, Alex.


Not sure the Swedes will agree with you for much longer on that point.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:34 am

New Tryphalia wrote:
Dakini wrote:I'll take "total fabrications" for 800, Alex.


Not sure the Swedes will agree with you for much longer on that point.


Oh hey, still spinning the "migrants made Sweden the rape capital of Europe" lie.
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Postby New Tryphalia » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:37 am

Vassenor wrote:
New Tryphalia wrote:
Not sure the Swedes will agree with you for much longer on that point.


Oh hey, still spinning the "migrants made Sweden the rape capital of Europe" lie.


Where’s the lie?
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:39 am

New Tryphalia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Oh hey, still spinning the "migrants made Sweden the rape capital of Europe" lie.


Where’s the lie?


The fact it's not supported by any actual evidence.
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Postby Elwher » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:40 am

Risottia wrote:
Sungoldy-China wrote:Death , exile, these ancient wisdoms need to return

Exile?
Explain why any other country would want to take your own criminals.


This is why we need colonies. Look at how the English used Australia, for example.
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Postby Dakini » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:48 am

New Tryphalia wrote:
Dakini wrote:I'll take "total fabrications" for 800, Alex.


Not sure the Swedes will agree with you for much longer on that point.

I mean, it's still a total fabrication, but every Swedish person I know would tell you off for trying to rope them into your racist fantasies.

Elwher wrote:
Risottia wrote:Exile?
Explain why any other country would want to take your own criminals.


This is why we need colonies. Look at how the English used Australia, for example.

see also: America
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Postby New Tryphalia » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:55 am

Dakini wrote:
New Tryphalia wrote:
Not sure the Swedes will agree with you for much longer on that point.

I mean, it's still a total fabrication, but every Swedish person I know would tell you off for trying to rope them into your racist fantasies.

Elwher wrote:
This is why we need colonies. Look at how the English used Australia, for example.

see also: America


Invoking non existent racism is a typical dodge and red herring for the Snopes believing crowd. You believe that false fact checker with all of the irrational zeal of a Jehovah’s Witness.
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Postby Christian Confederation » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:57 am

The Second JELLIAN Republic wrote:So the incident was part of a larger thing going on ?

Possibly we won't know for sure until the Scumbag goes on trial. Hopefully nothing comes from this but it's 2021 anything is possible.

The Idea that crap could kick off because someone did something stupid, after a thug mowed down a crowd at a Christmas Parade, a few days after a Kid was acquitted for shooting 3 criminals that tried to kill him during a riot. Is both scary and ironic.
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Postby Dakini » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:57 am

New Tryphalia wrote:
Dakini wrote:I mean, it's still a total fabrication, but every Swedish person I know would tell you off for trying to rope them into your racist fantasies.


see also: America


Invoking non existent racism is a typical dodge and red herring for the Snopes believing crowd. You believe that false fact checker with all of the irrational zeal of a Jehovah’s Witness.

Spreading the racist lie that crime in Sweden increased because of immigration doesn't do a lot to demonstrate a lack of racism on your part.

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