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Postby Indomitable Friendship » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:36 pm

Malian Socialist Federation wrote:A forum post with people claiming conspiracies and crying media as anti white. I never would’ve thought


There's no one but me, so you may as well address me directly. There is no "conspiracy". The majority of mainstream media has a trend of Europhobia and this is observable and blatant. Yes, Anti-Euro racism exists and yes, it probably was the motivation for this act. Deflecting doesn't help and only exacerbates the problem.

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Postby Antipatros » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:38 pm

Based on what I could glean from the videos, his vehicle followed this red line, going westbound (right to left) and then turning south.

Here is the parade route, according to the city's Twitter account.

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Postby Malian Socialist Federation » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:39 pm

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Malian Socialist Federation wrote:A forum post with people claiming conspiracies and crying media as anti white. I never would’ve thought


There's no one but me, so you may as well address me directly. There is no "conspiracy". The majority of mainstream media has a trend of Europhobia and this is observable and blatant. Yes, Anti-Euro racism exists and yes, it probably was the motivation for this act. Deflecting doesn't help and only exacerbates the problem.


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Postby Indomitable Friendship » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:41 pm

Malian Socialist Federation wrote:
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There's no one but me, so you may as well address me directly. There is no "conspiracy". The majority of mainstream media has a trend of Europhobia and this is observable and blatant. Yes, Anti-Euro racism exists and yes, it probably was the motivation for this act. Deflecting doesn't help and only exacerbates the problem.


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Ah, so if you acknowledge that Europhobia actually exists, you must be a literal Nazi or something like that, hmm?

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Postby Holy Yeshua » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:42 pm

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I don’t trust Andy Ngo at all. I am going to wait to get verification from law-enforcement and disregard what people like Andy Ngo have to say.


Imagine trusting the US government and their goon troopers. I don't "trust" him, just like everyone else, but this seems extremely likely given recent events.


I absolutely trust the authorities over people like Andy Ngo. Ngo is known to lie and manipulate information for his white nationalists fanboys.
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Postby Malian Socialist Federation » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:43 pm

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I’m sure you could hop back on stormfront I’m sure they miss you


Ah, so if you acknowledge that Europhobia actually exists, you must be a literal Nazi or something like that, hmm?


Clearly you have some form of delusions either delusions of persecution or extreme paranoia. I’d like to discuss this further, how is your relationship with your father?
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Postby Indomitable Friendship » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:46 pm

Holy Yeshua wrote:
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Imagine trusting the US government and their goon troopers. I don't "trust" him, just like everyone else, but this seems extremely likely given recent events.


I absolutely trust the authorities over people like Andy Ngo. Ngo is known to lie and manipulate information for his white nationalists fanboys.


I don't trust the authorities just as I don't trust any individual; however, given the circumstances, suspect and proximity to Kenosha, the writing looks like it's on the wall. And when the authorities and outlets that you like say it wasn't Anti-Euro, you will just believe this, I take it.

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Postby Albrenia » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:48 pm

Is Europhobic really the word for racism against white people?

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Postby Indomitable Friendship » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:49 pm

Malian Socialist Federation wrote:
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Ah, so if you acknowledge that Europhobia actually exists, you must be a literal Nazi or something like that, hmm?


Clearly you have some form of delusions either delusions of persecution or extreme paranoia. I’d like to discuss this further, how is your relationship with your father?


None of your business because it is irrelevant. If you want to discuss Europhobia and its effects, that is a discussion I will have you.

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Postby Xanthal » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:49 pm

This heinous act committed by a person who believes things that I do not cannot be tolerated. This is an irrefutable demonstration of how this ideology leads inevitably to hatred and stands as yet another example of why it must be driven from our society. By believing the things this person believes, you may as well have killed all those people yourself.
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Yet another sad example of one sick person being exploited by those who believe things that I do not for cheap political points. Those people who believe the things that I do not are without shame and must be driven from our society.
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This person clearly felt threatened by the degenerate and violent behavior of the crowd, which as you know was full of people who believe things that I do not. If those people had only been silent about their beliefs- they should have been driven from our society by now anyway- this would never have happened. It's sad that they died, but laying their deaths on the head of someone who was simply trying to operate a motor vehicle on a public road, as we all do daily, is a veiled attack on the American people.

...I think that about covers the bases, mm?
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Postby Risottia » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:49 pm

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Risottia wrote:The perpetrator appears to be pale-skinned himself, from images shown on tv, so chances are this isn't a skin-hue related hate crime.

given how irrational race issues are stateside to begin with, i won't be surprised if this too goes beyond the bend in similar ways to the coverage of the rittenhouse trial

Eh, well, looks like rationality is taking a sabbatical decade workdwide.
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Postby Holy Yeshua » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:52 pm

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I absolutely trust the authorities over people like Andy Ngo. Ngo is known to lie and manipulate information for his white nationalists fanboys.


I don't trust the authorities just as I don't trust any individual; however, given the circumstances, suspect and proximity to Kenosha, the writing looks like it's on the wall. And when the authorities and outlets that you like say it wasn't Anti-Euro, you will just believe this, I take it.


It seems that you want it to be some sort of anti-white to prove some kind of point. How about we condemn this attack outright before we know about any possible motives? I’m willing to do that
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Postby Malian Socialist Federation » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:54 pm

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Clearly you have some form of delusions either delusions of persecution or extreme paranoia. I’d like to discuss this further, how is your relationship with your father?


None of your business because it is irrelevant. If you want to discuss Europhobia and its effects, that is a discussion I will have you.



Proving my point then. Yes the media is so anti white while their CEO’s, viewers, and show creators live in gentrified white communities. Yes they are so anti white while Fox and their twisted offspring pull in more viewers than any other in the USA. Yes they are so anti white when they continue to propagate the status quo that leaves actual minorities pummeled into the dirt behind them. Y’know if they are anti white I certainly ain’t feeling things shift in my favor. I still get pulled over more, searched more, get racist comments more, get mistreated by customers more.

Man I hope one day you wake up and realize you’re playing into whatever racial divide and conquer nonsense whoever has told you all this is feeding you to manipulate you. Unfortunately, you’re probably a bit too far gone for that.
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Postby Orostan » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:56 pm

Everyone else is wrong, only I am correct. If the motivation was actually the Rittenhouse shit then this will be folded into a pointless culture war issue. This act of terrorism was probably produced by domestic GLADIO anyways.
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Postby Rusozak » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:57 pm

Indomitable Friendship wrote:
Malian Socialist Federation wrote:A forum post with people claiming conspiracies and crying media as anti white. I never would’ve thought


There's no one but me, so you may as well address me directly. There is no "conspiracy". The majority of mainstream media has a trend of Europhobia and this is observable and blatant. Yes, Anti-Euro racism exists and yes, it probably was the motivation for this act. Deflecting doesn't help and only exacerbates the problem.


That you immediately start on some rant about media being anti-white like some white supremacist leads me to question the credibility of your claims.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:58 pm

Indomitable Friendship wrote:It's looking like a probable Europhobic hate crime, if Andy Ngo is accurate.
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo

"The man in custody over the mass casualty incident at the #Waukesha, Wis. Christmas parade has posts on his social media in support of BLM causes, George Floyd & black nationalism. He also has a post about how to get away with running people over on the street."

If this is the case, it will be ignored/suppressed by the media.

Yeah, I don't trust the media, but Andy Ngo isn't someone I'd trust either.
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Postby Indomitable Friendship » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:58 pm

Holy Yeshua wrote:
Indomitable Friendship wrote:
I don't trust the authorities just as I don't trust any individual; however, given the circumstances, suspect and proximity to Kenosha, the writing looks like it's on the wall. And when the authorities and outlets that you like say it wasn't Anti-Euro, you will just believe this, I take it.


It seems that you want it to be some sort of anti-white to prove some kind of point. How about we condemn this attack outright before we know about any possible motives? I’m willing to do that


I really don't, but I won't put my my head in the sand, either.

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Postby Great Algerstonia » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:00 am

Orostan wrote:Everyone else is wrong, only I am correct.

Well okay I was almost finished with my 2 million word essay on this topic but since you're the only one thats correct never mind then :(
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Postby Orostan » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:03 am

Great Algerstonia wrote:
Orostan wrote:Everyone else is wrong, only I am correct.

Well okay I was almost finished with my 2 million word essay on this topic but since you're the only one thats correct never mind then :(

yes. :) :) :) :) :) :)

Indomitable Friendship wrote:
Holy Yeshua wrote:
It seems that you want it to be some sort of anti-white to prove some kind of point. How about we condemn this attack outright before we know about any possible motives? I’m willing to do that


I really don't, but I won't put my my head in the sand, either.

Your head is not in the sand, it is up your own ass. Let us see what dumb shit motivated the attack before talking nonsense about imagined biases in media. This "anti-white" bias you speak of only functions to distract from the actual bias of media, which is pro-imperialism and pro-capital in all cases.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:08 am

Indomitable Friendship wrote:
Holy Yeshua wrote:
It seems that you want it to be some sort of anti-white to prove some kind of point. How about we condemn this attack outright before we know about any possible motives? I’m willing to do that


I really don't, but I won't put my my head in the sand, either.

So what if it turns out the motive was "death to liberals", inspired by Tucker ?
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Postby Indomitable Friendship » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:08 am

Malian Socialist Federation wrote:
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None of your business because it is irrelevant. If you want to discuss Europhobia and its effects, that is a discussion I will have you.



Proving my point then. Yes the media is so anti white while their CEO’s, viewers, and show creators live in gentrified white communities. Yes they are so anti white while Fox and their twisted offspring pull in more viewers than any other in the USA. Yes they are so anti white when they continue to propagate the status quo that leaves actual minorities pummeled into the dirt behind them. Y’know if they are anti white I certainly ain’t feeling things shift in my favor. I still get pulled over more, searched more, get racist comments more, get mistreated by customers more.

Man I hope one day you wake up and realize you’re playing into whatever racial divide and conquer nonsense whoever has told you all this is feeding you to manipulate you. Unfortunately, you’re probably a bit too far gone for that.


Good, an actual discussion. First of all, Europeans are the actual minority in the world. Globally, we are easily dwarfed in population by Africans, Asians and possibly Arabs. Second, most upper class Whites, especially the ones you refer to, are not Eurocentric. They exploit and abuse us "lower class" Euros for their benefit. Globalism is a good example of this. Europhobia is the status quo, especially in places like academia. People get attacked simply for having a Euro identity and solidarity. If you want anecdotes, we can talk about all the Anti-White behavior I've experienced IRL, but I would prefer to not go there. Most White people are not Eurocentric. The ones at the top treat us like disposable trash and they could care less us about us. I'm not buying into any D&C nonsense. I have no bone to pick, except with those who abuse and oppress me and others.

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Postby Indomitable Friendship » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:11 am

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There's no one but me, so you may as well address me directly. There is no "conspiracy". The majority of mainstream media has a trend of Europhobia and this is observable and blatant. Yes, Anti-Euro racism exists and yes, it probably was the motivation for this act. Deflecting doesn't help and only exacerbates the problem.


That you immediately start on some rant about media being anti-white like some white supremacist leads me to question the credibility of your claims.


Well, it's just what I expect given the previous observable trend. Maybe you are playing too loose with the term "White Supremacist" and affiliating it with any opinion outside the status quo.

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Postby Orostan » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:13 am

Indomitable Friendship wrote:
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Proving my point then. Yes the media is so anti white while their CEO’s, viewers, and show creators live in gentrified white communities. Yes they are so anti white while Fox and their twisted offspring pull in more viewers than any other in the USA. Yes they are so anti white when they continue to propagate the status quo that leaves actual minorities pummeled into the dirt behind them. Y’know if they are anti white I certainly ain’t feeling things shift in my favor. I still get pulled over more, searched more, get racist comments more, get mistreated by customers more.

Man I hope one day you wake up and realize you’re playing into whatever racial divide and conquer nonsense whoever has told you all this is feeding you to manipulate you. Unfortunately, you’re probably a bit too far gone for that.


Good, an actual discussion. First of all, Europeans are the actual minority in the world. Globally, we are easily dwarfed in population by Africans, Asians and possibly Arabs. Second, most upper class Whites, especially the ones you refer to, are not Eurocentric. They exploit and abuse us "lower class" Euros for their benefit. Globalism is a good example of this. Europhobia is the status quo, especially in places like academia. People get attacked simply for having a Euro identity and solidarity. If you want anecdotes, we can talk about all the Anti-White behavior I've experienced IRL, but I would prefer to not go there. Most White people are not Eurocentric. The ones at the top treat us like disposable trash and they could care less us about us. I'm not buying into any D&C nonsense. I have no bone to pick, except with those who abuse and oppress me and others.

Population on the global level is irrelevant. "Globalism" is not done because they hate white people it is a different word often for the system of imperialism that Lenin described. You want to liberate white people, who are mostly poor and have no power? That is good - but to really do that you have to liberate the entire working class which is majority non-white. By being a white nationalist you choose the path of being a loser and being, as some would say, a cuck to power. Your ideology lacks any type of class or real material analysis of the world so you will be manipulated as much as idiot college liberals are.

Do you want to win, or do you want to feel good when a white ethnostate starts killing white people for their political beliefs and starting wars that kill millions of white people for the benefit of the same globalist elite you claim to oppose? This was the case in Nazi Germany, it would be the case in Nazi America.
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Postby The 189 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:13 am

Malian Socialist Federation wrote:
Indomitable Friendship wrote:
None of your business because it is irrelevant. If you want to discuss Europhobia and its effects, that is a discussion I will have you.



Proving my point then. Yes the media is so anti white while their CEO’s, viewers, and show creators live in gentrified white communities. Yes they are so anti white while Fox and their twisted offspring pull in more viewers than any other in the USA. Yes they are so anti white when they continue to propagate the status quo that leaves actual minorities pummeled into the dirt behind them. Y’know if they are anti white I certainly ain’t feeling things shift in my favor. I still get pulled over more, searched more, get racist comments more, get mistreated by customers more.

Man I hope one day you wake up and realize you’re playing into whatever racial divide and conquer nonsense whoever has told you all this is feeding you to manipulate you. Unfortunately, you’re probably a bit too far gone for that.


The media are the ones feeding him the divide and conquer shit. The fact that he is skeptical of them is good.

Turning to Andy Ngo is not so good.

The media peddles anti-white narratives when it fits their strategy for dividing people and profiteering off their fears. They also peddle anti-black, anti-Asian, anti-Latin, etc. narratives when those fit their strategy.
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Postby Indomitable Friendship » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:15 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
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I really don't, but I won't put my my head in the sand, either.

So what if it turns out the motive was "death to liberals", inspired by Tucker ?


If it was, I would make an apology thread and admit such an error and proceed to take the metaphorical eggs at my face from the forum, but as I said, given all the pieces we have, I am confident this was a racially motivated attack, unfortunately. I have learned not to shoot off assumptions too quickly. I don't think I am wrong, but I genuinely hope I am.

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