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Who knew someone just needed to shout 'SHAVE DAMN YOU!' on the incel forums and the whole thing would have cleared itself up.

In seriousness though, Mr. Maher is simply incorrect on this, for reasons both numerous and often obvious.

Nevertheless, as Gravlen said, who gives a shit?

Dakini wrote:

Duvniask wrote:Like I said, it's inconclusive. I'm not sure why you're acting up about this, as you using the word "literally" would suggest, considering I'm trying to explain to you the nuances of the subject, not advancing an argument in favor of women being relegated to beasts of burden.


I don't think you understood what I was saying, then. You're trying to look at this in "objective" terms, but that's not what determines how we might be naturally inclined to think and act. Being pregnant is a significant commitment, if for no other reason than it being a 9 month continuous process. Tell any woman that "pregnancy is just a tiny part of your life, it's totally irrelevant" and you might get some strange looks from those who actually have to go through the months of that process.

You're literally arguing with a pregnant woman right now.

Pregnancy itself isn't "a significant commitment". Grad school was more of a significant commitment than pregnancy alone is. Not being able to drink booze or (much) coffee or eat certain delicious cheeses for a few months isn't nearly as hard as writing my thesis was. Obviously parenting is an enormous commitment, but parenting is a shared commitment. Parenting is something that will affect my life much more than being pregnant (assuming I survive and all that anyway).

So yes, please continue to explain pregnancy and how pregnant women feel about things to me while I'm being kicked by a fetus. As far as it goes, being pregnant is mostly weird and is becoming increasingly uncomfortable, but it will be over in not too long, actually.

Congrats on your up-knocking! Iffy is a great unisex baby name, just saying.

Ifreann wrote:

Dakini wrote:You're literally arguing with a pregnant woman right now.

Pregnancy itself isn't "a significant commitment". Grad school was more of a significant commitment than pregnancy alone is. Not being able to drink booze or (much) coffee or eat certain delicious cheeses for a few months isn't nearly as hard as writing my thesis was. Obviously parenting is an enormous commitment, but parenting is a shared commitment. Parenting is something that will affect my life much more than being pregnant (assuming I survive and all that anyway).

So yes, please continue to explain pregnancy and how pregnant women feel about things to me while I'm being kicked by a fetus. As far as it goes, being pregnant is mostly weird and is becoming increasingly uncomfortable, but it will be over in not too long, actually.

Congrats on your up-knocking! Iffy is a great unisex baby name, just saying.

Fuck that, eschew the whole “naming” paradigm, no name is the best name! And also congrats!

Cannot think of a name wrote:

Ifreann wrote:Congrats on your up-knocking! Iffy is a great unisex baby name, just saying.

Fuck that, eschew the whole “naming” paradigm, no name is the best name! And also congrats!

Could just call it "TBD".

USS Monitor wrote:It's one thing if you have to live on a limited budget because there just isn't enough money. It's something else when a man asks you to live in poverty and squalor while thousands of dollars of your own money just sits in the bank unused. This is something that many men do as a result of toxic gender roles, and it makes it difficult to have a worthwhile relationship with them.

That is usually how money works. Unless someone is already rich or has a high income, the only way to be able to retire early or get to a comfortable retirement or lifestyle is to live far below your means. You have to live in squalor today to be able to live in comfort tomorrow. Of course, if someone is too low income, there is no point to what they do because they'll spend every dime they get anyways, just trying to survive. The key to any economic mobility/progress is to invest the difference in assets that appreciate or consistently earn more than you can use up.

If you earned your portion of the money however, I'd say you have a right to use it as you see fit, even if over the long term- you're not as rich because you spent too much or didn't make the right investments. Or if you were a low earner for too long.

Chances are, Social Security and Medicare will be worthless far before year 2100. So pay as little into both or either as is possible. The future trend for retirement will be for people to work in some form until they die.

Bill Maher has some stupid takes; but the way in which video games and internet culture have made some teens socially inept certainly hasn't helped this weird Incel shit I hear about. I disagree for the most part, but I'll grant him that.

Major-Tom wrote:Bill Maher has some stupid takes; but the way in which video games and internet culture have made some teens socially inept certainly hasn't helped this weird Incel shit I hear about. I disagree for the most part, but I'll grant him that.

Social media and insular internet communities more than vidya games I'd say.

Farnhamia wrote:

Cannot think of a name wrote:Fuck that, eschew the whole “naming” paradigm, no name is the best name! And also congrats!

Could just call it "TBD".

"changeit" is the industry standard.

Or "Abcd1234" maybe?

Ifreann wrote:

Dakini wrote:You're literally arguing with a pregnant woman right now.

Pregnancy itself isn't "a significant commitment". Grad school was more of a significant commitment than pregnancy alone is. Not being able to drink booze or (much) coffee or eat certain delicious cheeses for a few months isn't nearly as hard as writing my thesis was. Obviously parenting is an enormous commitment, but parenting is a shared commitment. Parenting is something that will affect my life much more than being pregnant (assuming I survive and all that anyway).

So yes, please continue to explain pregnancy and how pregnant women feel about things to me while I'm being kicked by a fetus. As far as it goes, being pregnant is mostly weird and is becoming increasingly uncomfortable, but it will be over in not too long, actually.

Congrats on your up-knocking! Iffy is a great unisex baby name, just saying.

Heh, thanks. We are still quite undecided on boys' names...

Cannot think of a name wrote:

Ifreann wrote:Congrats on your up-knocking! Iffy is a great unisex baby name, just saying.

Fuck that, eschew the whole “naming” paradigm, no name is the best name! And also congrats!

Well, it currently has no name unless "the fetus" or "the little one" count as names. And thanks!

Dakini wrote:

Ifreann wrote:Congrats on your up-knocking! Iffy is a great unisex baby name, just saying.

Heh, thanks. We are still quite undecided on boys' names...

Congrats on the gamete + gamete = zygote ---> tempus fugit ---> fetus.

As long as you've ruled out the names Donald or Trump.

Jerzylvania wrote:

Dakini wrote:Heh, thanks. We are still quite undecided on boys' names...

Congrats on the gamete + gamete = zygote ---> tempus fugit ---> fetus.

As long as you've ruled out the names Donald or Trump.

Oh, obviously. *gag*

Dakini wrote:

Duvniask wrote:Like I said, it's inconclusive. I'm not sure why you're acting up about this, as you using the word "literally" would suggest, considering I'm trying to explain to you the nuances of the subject, not advancing an argument in favor of women being relegated to beasts of burden.


I don't think you understood what I was saying, then. You're trying to look at this in "objective" terms, but that's not what determines how we might be naturally inclined to think and act. Being pregnant is a significant commitment, if for no other reason than it being a 9 month continuous process. Tell any woman that "pregnancy is just a tiny part of your life, it's totally irrelevant" and you might get some strange looks from those who actually have to go through the months of that process.

You're literally arguing with a pregnant woman right now.

Pregnancy itself isn't "a significant commitment". Grad school was more of a significant commitment than pregnancy alone is. Not being able to drink booze or (much) coffee or eat certain delicious cheeses for a few months isn't nearly as hard as writing my thesis was. Obviously parenting is an enormous commitment, but parenting is a shared commitment. Parenting is something that will affect my life much more than being pregnant (assuming I survive and all that anyway).

So yes, please continue to explain pregnancy and how pregnant women feel about things to me while I'm being kicked by a fetus. As far as it goes, being pregnant is mostly weird and is becoming increasingly uncomfortable, but it will be over in not too long, actually.

Mazel Tov, as we jews would say. If I may recommend, Ethel is a lovely throwback name for any child.

Baby's are fun, poop, pee and puke a lot, but still are well worth the time and effort.

Ethel mermania wrote:

Dakini wrote:You're literally arguing with a pregnant woman right now.

Pregnancy itself isn't "a significant commitment". Grad school was more of a significant commitment than pregnancy alone is. Not being able to drink booze or (much) coffee or eat certain delicious cheeses for a few months isn't nearly as hard as writing my thesis was. Obviously parenting is an enormous commitment, but parenting is a shared commitment. Parenting is something that will affect my life much more than being pregnant (assuming I survive and all that anyway).

So yes, please continue to explain pregnancy and how pregnant women feel about things to me while I'm being kicked by a fetus. As far as it goes, being pregnant is mostly weird and is becoming increasingly uncomfortable, but it will be over in not too long, actually.

Mazel Tov, as we jews would say. If I may recommend, Ethel is a lovely throwback name for any child.

Baby's are fun, poop, pee and puke a lot, but still are well worth the time and effort.

Thanks! I have had a preferred girls' name since high school though and lucky for me, my partner is on board with it.

Albrenia wrote:

Major-Tom wrote:Bill Maher has some stupid takes; but the way in which video games and internet culture have made some teens socially inept certainly hasn't helped this weird Incel shit I hear about. I disagree for the most part, but I'll grant him that.

Social media and insular internet communities more than vidya games I'd say.

I would agree. But sometimes there is some mutual inclusivity between weird, insular internet culture and spending too much time in front of a console or PC game of sorts.

Most folks who play a lot of video games probably aren't incels, but most incels probably play a ton of video games; if that makes sense.

Dakini wrote:

Duvniask wrote:Like I said, it's inconclusive. I'm not sure why you're acting up about this, as you using the word "literally" would suggest, considering I'm trying to explain to you the nuances of the subject, not advancing an argument in favor of women being relegated to beasts of burden.


I don't think you understood what I was saying, then. You're trying to look at this in "objective" terms, but that's not what determines how we might be naturally inclined to think and act. Being pregnant is a significant commitment, if for no other reason than it being a 9 month continuous process. Tell any woman that "pregnancy is just a tiny part of your life, it's totally irrelevant" and you might get some strange looks from those who actually have to go through the months of that process.

You're literally arguing with a pregnant woman right now.

Pregnancy itself isn't "a significant commitment". Grad school was more of a significant commitment than pregnancy alone is. Not being able to drink booze or (much) coffee or eat certain delicious cheeses for a few months isn't nearly as hard as writing my thesis was. Obviously parenting is an enormous commitment, but parenting is a shared commitment. Parenting is something that will affect my life much more than being pregnant (assuming I survive and all that anyway).

So yes, please continue to explain pregnancy and how pregnant women feel about things to me while I'm being kicked by a fetus. As far as it goes, being pregnant is mostly weird and is becoming increasingly uncomfortable, but it will be over in not too long, actually.

Congrats.

Please never tell them about nsg in 13 years

Dakini wrote:You're literally arguing with a pregnant woman right now.

Nice Congrats, good luck, and enjoy every minute of it!

Saiwania wrote:

USS Monitor wrote:It's one thing if you have to live on a limited budget because there just isn't enough money. It's something else when a man asks you to live in poverty and squalor while thousands of dollars of your own money just sits in the bank unused. This is something that many men do as a result of toxic gender roles, and it makes it difficult to have a worthwhile relationship with them.

That is usually how money works. Unless someone is already rich or has a high income, the only way to be able to retire early or get to a comfortable retirement or lifestyle is to live far below your means. You have to live in squalor today to be able to live in comfort tomorrow.

No, I fucking don't.

Sai, you don't know my financial situation, so don't sit there and lecture me with your braindead Dickensian fantasies.

Dakini wrote:You're literally arguing with a pregnant woman right now.

Ooh, nice.

Dakini wrote:You're literally arguing with a pregnant woman right now.

Allow me to be the latest to offer my congratulations.

If you're still taking baby name suggestions, how about 'Thrungor the Magnificent, Despoiler of Souls'?

Ilessia wrote:Late night talk show host does bad take possibly as an attempt at humor. Audience either laughs awkwardly or doesn't at all.

In other news, water is wet, the pope is catholic, bears shit in the woods and I'm smart.

Allow me to introduce you to the Pope of the Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria, Tawadros II

Just to confuse matters the Eastern Orthodox Pope and Patriarch of the Great City of Alexandria is called Theodore II.

Also, polar bears do not typically defecate in woodland environments.

The Archregimancy wrote:

Dakini wrote:You're literally arguing with a pregnant woman right now.

Allow me to be the latest to offer my congratulations.

If you're still taking baby name suggestions, how about 'Thrungor the Magnificent, Despoiler of Souls'?

Hey hey hey, you all saw it, no name wins. Don't try and take this from me...

The Archregimancy wrote:

Ilessia wrote:Late night talk show host does bad take possibly as an attempt at humor. Audience either laughs awkwardly or doesn't at all.

In other news, water is wet, the pope is catholic, bears shit in the woods and I'm smart.

Allow me to introduce you to the Pope of the Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria, Tawadros II

Just to confuse matters the Eastern Orthodox Pope and Patriarch of the Great City of Alexandria is called Theodore II.

Also, polar bears do not typically defecate in woodland environments.

That's it, pack it in. We can now retire that cliche for ever. Archregimancy is doin' gods work on the interwebs.

The Archregimancy wrote:

Ilessia wrote:Late night talk show host does bad take possibly as an attempt at humor. Audience either laughs awkwardly or doesn't at all.

In other news, water is wet, the pope is catholic, bears shit in the woods and I'm smart.

Allow me to introduce you to the Pope of the Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria, Tawadros II

Just to confuse matters the Eastern Orthodox Pope and Patriarch of the Great City of Alexandria is called Theodore II.

Also, polar bears do not typically defecate in woodland environments.

You shouldn't be encouraging polar bears to think they are special.

The Archregimancy wrote:

Ilessia wrote:Late night talk show host does bad take possibly as an attempt at humor. Audience either laughs awkwardly or doesn't at all.

In other news, water is wet, the pope is catholic, bears shit in the woods and I'm smart.

Allow me to introduce you to the Pope of the Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria, Tawadros II

Just to confuse matters the Eastern Orthodox Pope and Patriarch of the Great City of Alexandria is called Theodore II.

Also, polar bears do not typically defecate in woodland environments.

I blame widespread deforestation of their habitat

Ethel mermania wrote:

The Archregimancy wrote:
Allow me to introduce you to the Pope of the Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria, Tawadros II

Just to confuse matters the Eastern Orthodox Pope and Patriarch of the Great City of Alexandria is called Theodore II.

Also, polar bears do not typically defecate in woodland environments.

You shouldn't be encouraging polar bears to think they are special.

Indeed, it might result in white bear supremacy.