Hypothetical Re: The President

by **Infected Mushroom** » Fri Nov 05, 2021 11:58 pm

Please consider the following hypothetical:

A presidential election is coming up. The two big name candidates are more or less the same in every way in terms of their politics, level of political achievement, and moral character.

However, Candidate 1 is a straight Christian white family man.

Candidate 2 is a LGBT atheist colored single woman.

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Based on this, and with everything else being more or less the same, who do you vote for?

Do you vote for Candidate 2 to break traditional barriers to politics and advance identity politics?

Do you vote for Candidate 1 to say no to identity politics or for other reasons?

Do you flip a coin to avoid discriminating against either group? Use some other way to decide?

Please justify.

by **USS Monitor** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:10 am

I don't need to vote if they are that similar. Think of all the other things I could do with my time, like playing NS or lobbing cannonballs at Confederate ships.

by **Heloin** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:20 am

If they're exactly the same then the only thing I'm being left to choose is what name I can better remember and whose face I'll see on the news for the next four years.

by **Nolo gap** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 12:27 am

i'll always go for the least likely, just to even things up a bit, if they really are that equal in every other way,
but i would also be swayed by their background on issues that interest me personally,
that will take a bit of digging on my part to find out.

by that i mean i would hope for number two, but i would absolutely take any and all other factors i could find into consideration as well.
angels don't get into politics, i look instead for those who favor my own position on my favorite issues, which are generally to the left of center.

also, i'd rather in real life vote on issues directly, then try and guess someone's position based on personality.

my priority on issues generally? environment first (and infrastructure falls under environment), civil rights (including civil protections, safety nets, and all of the "soft" infrastructure) the very next thing, and the business of business can (generally and usually) take the hindmost.

by **Page** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:19 am

Candidate 2 because she's an atheist because even Christians who say that it doesn't effect their politics are lying even if they believe it.

by **Infected Mushroom** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:50 am

Page wrote:Candidate 2 because she's an atheist because even Christians who say that it doesn't effect their politics are lying even if they believe it.

Well there’s a lot of “nominal Christians.” They just hang the Christian title, never give it much thought nor talk about it much, and just go to church regularly.

by **Kannap** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 5:19 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:Please consider the following hypothetical:

A presidential election is coming up. The two big name candidates are more or less the same in every way in terms of their politics, level of political achievement, and moral character.

However, Candidate 1 is a straight Christian white family man.

Candidate 2 is a LGBT atheist colored single woman.

So basically American politics. Can I have a good candidate instead of two bad candidates, please?

by **Ethel mermania** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 5:47 am

Kannap wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:Please consider the following hypothetical:

A presidential election is coming up. The two big name candidates are more or less the same in every way in terms of their politics, level of political achievement, and moral character.

However, Candidate 1 is a straight Christian white family man.

Candidate 2 is a LGBT atheist colored single woman.

So basically American politics. Can I have a good candidate instead of two bad candidates, please?

This is American politics, so no.

As to the hypothetical, there is always going to be some small policy differences between them, I will vote for the person who's views are closer to mine

by **Kaczynskisatva** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 5:53 am

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by **The Holy Therns** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:21 am

If they're the same, what are they going to debate about?

by **San Lumen** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:39 am

Extremely unlikely if not impossible they’d be so similar. With no real choice as much as it pains me to say it I would sit out the election unless I could find some small difference I liked.

by **Dundee Derry** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:46 am

OP Wrote:

Who do you vote for? If all other factors are the same?

Er... Third Party? Like... other options exist ya know?

by **The Blaatschapen** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:50 am

I will run myself.

As an atheist straight single man, I'm the compromise between the two and thus gain all their votes.

by **Majo Bolldass** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 6:58 am

I'm sure C1 would soon go negative and bash C2 for identity. That would annoy me enough to vote for her.

by **Dundee Derry** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:04 am

Majo Bolldass wrote:I'm sure C1 would soon go negative and bash C2 for identity. That would annoy me enough to vote for her.

To make it interesting, I'm assuming Canditate 1, the Straight Christian family man, is the Democrat, because they want to play safe; and Candidate 2 (LGBT atheist colored single woman) is the Republican because they want to appear "hip".

by **Hukhalia** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:15 am

i will not vote. choosing either candidate for such characteristics is idpol by nature.

by **Ethel mermania** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:30 am

The Holy Therns wrote:If they're the same, what are they going to debate about?

White house wall paper choices

by **Radiatia** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:41 am

I'd need a lot more information than that, but probably I'd end up not voting for either of them. Candidate 2 would turn me off if they focussed too much on identity politics and Candidate 1 would turn me off because I wouldn't feel comfortable having my country led by someone with an imaginary friend.

It depends how much they're banging the drum of their own identities but in all likelihood I'd vote neither/not vote at all.

Actually, now that I think about... this isn't really a hypothetical. Most elections (certainly where I live) are fought between two politically identical parties pretending that hair-splitting on minor details counts as a genuine political cleavage. (And in real life, I wasted my vote on a third party with no hope of ever getting into power.)

by **Neutraligon** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 7:43 am

How is the focus on white male Christian not identity politics?

by **Infected Mushroom** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:01 pm

Neutraligon wrote:How is the focus on white male Christian not identity politics?

It's the default in US politics.

by **Vikanias** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:04 pm

Don’t vote, if the bastards are carbon copies of the other why?

by **The Hazar Amisnery** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:05 pm

I would choose 2 because US history is full of straight white male presidents and also I don't live in America so It wont affect me.

by **Federal Reclamation Initiative** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:17 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:I will run myself.

As an atheist straight single man, I'm the compromise between the two and thus gain all their votes.

"Blaatschapen 2024!"

by **Infected Mushroom** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:36 pm

Vikanias wrote:Don’t vote, if the bastards are carbon copies of the other why?

It depends on your take on identity politics.

by **Neanderthaland** » Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:55 pm

I vote for the opposite of whoever Sai endorses. Always vote against the Nazi.