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The Jamesian Republic
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:47 pm

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Neu California wrote:Isn't Conservapedia just trolls and other assorted assholes at this point?

They're either trolls or insane.


Their whole Biden administration page is insane.

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Postby Great Algerstonia » Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:51 pm

Saiwania wrote:https://conservapedia.com/Critical_race_theory

This should give the American right's perspective on the topic. (The website has some challenges, but just be patient and try again or refresh page until you get the page to load or past a server connection time out- and chances are you can get to it.)

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Postby Umeria » Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:53 pm

Dreria wrote:
Umeria wrote:That sounds good in theory, but it creates a precedent for whoever's in charge to ban anything they don't like.

yes that's called the state being in charge of state schools

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the government has complete control over what professors can teach, even though they're the ones funding the schools?
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Postby Eahland » Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:54 pm

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Dreria wrote:we should ban trickle down economics from being taught in school tbh

That sounds good in theory, but it creates a precedent for whoever's in charge to ban anything they don't like. That's why, as much as I dislike trickle-down economics, I still believe that people should have the right to teach it.

Teaching trickle-down in economics class is like teaching creationism in biology class.
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Postby Saiwania » Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:57 pm

I'm fully aware that Conservapedia is full of bias but the point is that it is a reasonably accurate window into how the fringe of the GOP perceives the world or various issues, plus it is more entertaining. I know to have it inform my opinions but not decide it in full. The Young Turks is the most liberal source I know, so I go to them to get the left wing perspective on anything.
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Postby Dreria » Thu Nov 04, 2021 3:57 pm

Umeria wrote:
Dreria wrote:yes that's called the state being in charge of state schools

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the government has complete control over what professors can teach, even though they're the ones funding the schools?

idk what you mean by "complete control" but there are laws and school board rules that they have to follow
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Postby Ispravlennaja Tsekovija » Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:45 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Saiwania wrote:https://conservapedia.com/Critical_race_theory

This should give the American right's perspective on the topic. (The website has some challenges, but just be patient and try again or refresh page until you get the page to load or past a server connection time out- and chances are you can get to it.)

thats not a source.

(just yesterday posted a link to a children's website as a source voice)
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:45 pm

Vassenor wrote:Consider this: if the “boss makes a dollar, i make a dime” line was real Amazon workers would all have 19 billion dollars. If the “boss makes a thousand and gives me a cent” line was real, Amazon workers would all have over 100 million dollars.

That’s what income inequality looks like in practice.

Actually they’d have 14,892.

There’s over a million Amazon employees and they each don’t get the 10% of that income.
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Postby Ispravlennaja Tsekovija » Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:46 pm

Umeria wrote:
Dreria wrote:yes that's called the state being in charge of state schools

Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the government has complete control over what professors can teach, even though they're the ones funding the schools?

a great shame indeed
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Postby Senkaku » Thu Nov 04, 2021 4:57 pm

Vassenor wrote:Consider this: if the “boss makes a dollar, i make a dime” line was real Amazon workers would all have 19 billion dollars. If the “boss makes a thousand and gives me a cent” line was real, Amazon workers would all have over 100 million dollars.

That’s what income inequality looks like in practice.

You reposted this from Twitter
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Postby Port Caverton » Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:01 pm

Vassenor wrote:Consider this: if the “boss makes a dollar, i make a dime” line was real Amazon workers would all have 19 billion dollars. If the “boss makes a thousand and gives me a cent” line was real, Amazon workers would all have over 100 million dollars.

That’s what income inequality looks like in practice.

Protip: Don't copy and paste what retarded twitter users write

Like Thermodolia said, they would have 14 892$, not hundreds of millions of dollars

Edit: Even if the Net Worth of the company was given equally to all employees, they would only have 1 309 707$, which is a lot but nowhere near a 100 million dollars.
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Postby Saiwania » Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:03 pm

Vassenor wrote:Consider this: if the “boss makes a dollar, i make a dime” line was real Amazon workers would all have 19 billion dollars. If the “boss makes a thousand and gives me a cent” line was real, Amazon workers would all have over 100 million dollars.

That’s what income inequality looks like in practice.


No one pays more than they have to for something unless the product is better than a cheaper option. If most people can fill the jobs Amazon has available, is it truly worth a higher wage? If not, then cheaper wages will win out if the market will bear it.
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Postby Ispravlennaja Tsekovija » Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:05 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Consider this: if the “boss makes a dollar, i make a dime” line was real Amazon workers would all have 19 billion dollars. If the “boss makes a thousand and gives me a cent” line was real, Amazon workers would all have over 100 million dollars.

That’s what income inequality looks like in practice.

You reposted this from Twitter

reposting from twitter does still entail more work and original thought than the average vassenor post to be fair.
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Postby The Andorian System » Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:06 pm

Kowani wrote:i am once again asking everyone blaming the democrats or republicans for the result of off-year elections as an out party to expand your vision a bit more


Didn't McAulliffe's win in 2013 buck the trend of the Presidential Party losing the Governor's mansion the following year?

Personally, Youngkin's win follows the trend. Normally, the President's party loses the Governor's mansion.

Also, McAulliffe, and Joe Biden, have tried to skate by on the excuse that they're not as bad as Donald Trump.

Being better than The Donald is not any sort of standard by which we should hold our leaders. While a C- is better than an F, most of us would prefer an A.
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Postby Diahon » Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:08 pm

Saiwania wrote:https://conservapedia.com/Critical_race_theory

This should give the American right's perspective on the topic. (The website has some challenges, but just be patient and try again or refresh page until you get the page to load or past a server connection time out- and chances are you can get to it.)

you know, if you wanna shitpost, you could just give us a metapedia link

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Postby Genivaria » Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:29 pm

Saiwania wrote:I'm fully aware that Conservapedia is full of bias but the point is that it is a reasonably accurate window into how the fringe of the GOP perceives the world or various issues, plus it is more entertaining. I know to have it inform my opinions but not decide it in full. The Young Turks is the most liberal source I know, so I go to them to get the left wing perspective on anything.

It is utterly hilarious to me that you don't realize that Conservapedia has long since been taken over by leftists and it's just an actual satire site now.
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Postby Kerwa » Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:29 pm

Saiwania wrote:
No one pays more than they have to for something unless the product is better than a cheaper option. If most people can fill the jobs Amazon has available, is it truly worth a higher wage? If not, then cheaper wages will win out if the market will bear it.


Not true. People buy brand name breakfast cereal, for example.

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Postby Senkaku » Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:31 pm

Kerwa wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
No one pays more than they have to for something unless the product is better than a cheaper option. If most people can fill the jobs Amazon has available, is it truly worth a higher wage? If not, then cheaper wages will win out if the market will bear it.


Not true. People buy brand name breakfast cereal, for example.

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Postby Nora Xent » Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:31 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Saiwania wrote:I'm fully aware that Conservapedia is full of bias but the point is that it is a reasonably accurate window into how the fringe of the GOP perceives the world or various issues, plus it is more entertaining. I know to have it inform my opinions but not decide it in full. The Young Turks is the most liberal source I know, so I go to them to get the left wing perspective on anything.

It is utterly hilarious to me that you don't realize that Conservapedia has long since been taken over by leftists and it's just an actual satire site now.

No. It's still run by nut jobs. It's just gone off the deep end.

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Postby Antipatros » Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:38 pm


He kinda shit in their cereal when he said that he'd end the sale of weapons for offensive operations in Yemen.

Now he sees that he's likely going to need Saudi help to get energy prices under control in time for the midterms, so he's been doing them some favors lately.

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:43 pm

Antipatros wrote:

He kinda shit in their cereal when he said that he'd end the sale of weapons for offensive operations in Yemen.

Now he sees that he's likely going to need Saudi help to get energy prices under control in time for the midterms, so he's been doing them some favors lately.


My question is why do we need to supply them with weapons to balance the energy crisis.

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Postby Port Caverton » Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:48 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Antipatros wrote:He kinda shit in their cereal when he said that he'd end the sale of weapons for offensive operations in Yemen.

Now he sees that he's likely going to need Saudi help to get energy prices under control in time for the midterms, so he's been doing them some favors lately.


My question is why do we need to supply them with weapons to balance the energy crisis.

Because they support the LGBT movement...

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Postby Antipatros » Thu Nov 04, 2021 5:50 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Antipatros wrote:He kinda shit in their cereal when he said that he'd end the sale of weapons for offensive operations in Yemen.

Now he sees that he's likely going to need Saudi help to get energy prices under control in time for the midterms, so he's been doing them some favors lately.


My question is why do we need to supply them with weapons to balance the energy crisis.

They control like 11% of global oil production. If you add in the rest of OPEC, it goes up to a bit under 40%.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/04/opec-agrees-to-stick-to-oil-production-plan-defying-us-pressure.html

Right now they seem like they're looking after their own interests first.

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