American Politics VIII: Dancin' with Manchin

[Dresderstan]

I supported Obama during both of his terms. I am now voting Republican. And this argument can be made both ways, as the the entire left propped up Biden, despite progressives wanting Bernie. Do you not remember #votebluenomatterwho last year?

Biden won a free and fair primary. Get over it.

No it like 2016 for Hillary was rigged against Sanders.

[Saiwania]

the guy who made the presentation is advocating that teachers look at the way they teach and interpret it through the lens of critical race theory, i.e. how they might be contributing to the racial power structures alleged to exist by enforcing behavioral discipline. i actually disagree strongly with a lot of what he's saying, but he is not saying teachers should be teaching kids about critical race theory, just informing their own pedagogy with it, which is VERY different.

I disagree with the pedagogy in K-12 schools being influenced by critical race theory, so it is one and the same so far as I'm concerned. Explain how Jim Crow happened or played out in the American south if discussing the Reconstruction era of American history, but don't make the suffering of Blacks in the South the main focus when they very much weren't the main constituency in power and weren't acknowledged much back then. Certainly don't make any value statements or ideological reaches like trying to connect it to the racism issues of today or why it makes the US an evil nation or whatever the radical left believes.

[Great Algerstonia]

Nobody is entitled to their vote.

Republicans fall in line and Democrats fall in love, the former is why Republicans win

What if you're in love with lines or in line to fall in love

[Kanna Kamui]

I supported Obama during both of his terms. I am now voting Republican. And this argument can be made both ways, as the the entire left propped up Biden, despite progressives wanting Bernie. Do you not remember #votebluenomatterwho last year?

Biden won a free and fair primary. Get over it.

I never said anything about election security. And I have, that’s why Let’s Go Brandon is a meme. We’re having fun outside with the memes and shit instead of wallowing forever in pity.

[Kerwa]

Legionaries gets it. Thank you. Good God—if you’re appealing, you’ll get elected. If you’re not—well you’re not getting elected. That trucker in NJ proves this theory. He appealed to people and won despite only spending $153 against a much larger and powerful Dem.

If Democrats want to win the legislature in some states they'd have to win the popular vote by such a margin as to make it a nearly insurmountable task. To win the House of Representatives it has to be by at least 5 under current lines. That's not a how democracy should work nor is it fair or democratic.

also many Democrats didn't vote in New Jersey

[San Lumen]

Biden won a free and fair primary. Get over it.

No it like 2016 for Hillary was rigged against Sanders.

Prove it

[American Legionaries]

Nobody is entitled to their vote.

Republicans fall in line and Democrats fall in love, the former is why Republicans win

This is just preposterous. Republicans don't turn out to vote at rate significantly greater than Democrats. In 2016 McMullin broke write in records in fourteen (?) states. Making him one of the biggest internal foils in electoral history.

You just fon't want to admit that your candidates can be boring or off-putting, and would rather blame the voters for doing their job.

[Kowani]

They need to get off their butts and vote every election instead of being asleep at the wheel.

I mean, why should they? What have the Dems to inspire enthusiasm and turnout in the past year or two? You're not entitled to votes and if you fail to deliver people are gonna stay home.

tbf there is a lot of stuff if you're politically plugged in (and not cable-news tier) but most people are...not

[Kowani]

i am once again asking everyone blaming the democrats or republicans for the result of off-year elections as an outparty to expand your vision a bit more

[Valrifall]

why does someone whose not elected by anyone get to make declarations like that?

Because somebody has to make sure that the rules the Senate made for itself are actually being enforced. We've gone through this.

Personally I think it should be up to the collective of the Senate to remember their rules. If a piece of rule-breaking legislation breaks some rule, then it simply passes.

This encourages shenanigans where legislators attempt to pull fast ones over their colleagues.

[The Black Forrest]

You don’t believe everything that is posted? What is wrong with you? What’s next? Are you going to try and tell us politicians lie?

Next you'll be saying that you believe they really did put a man on the moon.

They had to have done it. Why else would we have had Tang?

[The Black Forrest]

i am once again asking everyone blaming the democrats or republicans for the result of off-year elections as an outparty to expand your vision a bit more

Blinders are so comforting though.

[American Legionaries]

I mean, why should they? What have the Dems to inspire enthusiasm and turnout in the past year or two? You're not entitled to votes and if you fail to deliver people are gonna stay home.

tbf there is a lot of stuff if you're politically plugged in (and not cable-news tier) but most people are...not

Being aware of something, and motivated by it aren't the same thing, though.

[Vassenor]

Biden won a free and fair primary. Get over it.

No it like 2016 for Hillary was rigged against Sanders.

Was that ever actually proven?

[The Jamesian Republic]

i am once again asking everyone blaming the democrats or republicans for the result of off-year elections as an outparty to expand your vision a bit more

Blinders are so comforting though.

Also aren’t all parties to blame for their own failures?

[Shrillland]

Blinders are so comforting though.

Also aren’t all parties to blame for their own failures?

To an extent, but Kowani's made the point that TPO was the largest factor AKA the classic "throw the bums out and swing the pendulum" mentality that all non-Presidential election years face.

[Shrillland]

No it like 2016 for Hillary was rigged against Sanders.

Was that ever actually proven?

That's kind of what Russiagate was all about, remember. The Russians had leaked info that the DNC was eschewing its normal neutrality and favouring Clinton. Does that mean the primary was rigged? No. By the time the DNC put their thumb on the scale, the matter was already decided.

[Kerwa]

Also aren’t all parties to blame for their own failures?

To an extent, but Kowani's made the point that TPO was the largest factor AKA the classic "throw the bums out and swing the pendulum" mentality that all non-Presidential election years face.

It was that poor kid being raped that did it. There ‘s no need to overthink it.

[Vassenor]

To an extent, but Kowani's made the point that TPO was the largest factor AKA the classic "throw the bums out and swing the pendulum" mentality that all non-Presidential election years face.

It was that poor kid being raped that did it. There ‘s no need to overthink it.

Can we see the data that shows that's what made people flip?

[Neutraligon]

Michael F Harrison you and your nation Relden as well as a few of your other nations have been *** DEAT for posting past ban ***

Edit: Given the severity of your posting past ban the ban is increased to *** 3 weeks. ***

[Nora Xent]

Michael F Harrison you and your nation Relden as well as a few of your other nations have been *** DEAT for posting past ban ***

I fucking knew it. I never said anything but I fucking knew that he was Relden. Anyway what are we currently talking about?

[Lady Victory]

Michael F Harrison you and your nation Relden as well as a few of your other nations have been *** DEAT for posting past ban ***

I fucking knew it. I never said anything but I fucking knew that he was Relden. Anyway what are we currently talking about?

Same lmao.

[Kanna Kamui]

It was that poor kid being raped that did it. There ‘s no need to overthink it.

Can we see the data that shows that's what made people flip?

Nah, I’d argue it was Terry opening his mouth and saying this on a debate stage. “ I don't think parents should be telling schools what they should teach.” Yeah, the moms got PISSED at this. You don’t say that to a mother, her kid’s education is her concern.

[Neu California]

Smartmatic sues OANN, Newsmax over claims it rigged voting machines for Biden

Shocking, I know.

[Kowani]

To an extent, but Kowani's made the point that TPO was the largest factor AKA the classic "throw the bums out and swing the pendulum" mentality that all non-Presidential election years face.

It was that poor kid being raped that did it. There ‘s no need to overthink it.

>overthinking it
this is literally the most simple explanation for elections in america
everything else is overthinking it