American Politics VIII: Dancin' with Manchin

[Immortan Khan]

Current prosecution's witness just said that every time he encountered Rosenbaum that night, he was hyper-aggressive and had to be restrained more than once. lol

[The Two Jerseys]

https://twitter.com/ericadamsfornyc/sta ... 7550384129
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/04/new-yor ... tcoin.html

I already hate the new Mayor of New York.

Wonder if that's even legal. Should be clear by now that Bitcoin isn't so much a currency but a speculation money maker.

I can already hear every middle-age black woman in payroll raising an eyebrow and going "Bitcoin? Uh-uh, we don't do that here, honey"...

[Immortan Khan]

Current prosecution witness just said that Rosenbaum uttered a threat to "kill us" to a group he [Rosenbaum] confronted, which included the witness and Rittenhouse, if he encountered any of them again.

[American Legionaries]

Appeal to the voters who elect those legislatures?

That's part of it but in some its gerrymandered to make changing hands nearly impossible.

States gerrymander their maps, this isn't new nor an insurmountable obstacle. If you give those people what they want, you'll be drawing the map before long.

[Dresderstan]

Current prosecution witness just said that Rosenbaum uttered a threat to "kill us" to a group he [Rosenbaum] confronted, which included the witness and Rittenhouse, if he encountered any of them again.

Shouldn't this be in the Kyle Rittenhouse thread, not the USPol thread.

[Immortan Khan]

Current prosecution witness just said that Rosenbaum uttered a threat to "kill us" to a group he [Rosenbaum] confronted, which included the witness and Rittenhouse, if he encountered any of them again.

Shouldn't this be in the Kyle Rittenhouse thread, not the USPol thread.

Posted in the wrong thread by accident.

[Dresderstan]

Shouldn't this be in the Kyle Rittenhouse thread, not the USPol thread.

Posted in the wrong thread by accident.

Twice, and you didn't think to check the thread title.

[Kanna Kamui]

That's part of it but in some its gerrymandered to make changing hands nearly impossible.

States gerrymander their maps, this isn't new nor an insurmountable obstacle. If you give those people what they want, you'll be drawing the map before long.

Legionaries gets it. Thank you. Good God—if you’re appealing, you’ll get elected. If you’re not—well you’re not getting elected. That trucker in NJ proves this theory. He appealed to people and won despite only spending $153 against a much larger and powerful Dem.

[Immortan Khan]

Posted in the wrong thread by accident.

Twice, and you didn't think to check the thread title.

My bad G.

[San Lumen]

States gerrymander their maps, this isn't new nor an insurmountable obstacle. If you give those people what they want, you'll be drawing the map before long.

Legionaries gets it. Thank you. Good God—if you’re appealing, you’ll get elected. If you’re not—well you’re not getting elected. That trucker in NJ proves this theory. He appealed to people and won despite only spending $153 against a much larger and powerful Dem.

If Democrats want to win the legislature in some states they'd have to win the popular vote by such a margin as to make it a nearly insurmountable task. To win the House of Representatives it has to be by at least 5 under current lines. That's not a how democracy should work nor is it fair or democratic.

also many Democrats didn't vote in New Jersey

[American Legionaries]

Legionaries gets it. Thank you. Good God—if you’re appealing, you’ll get elected. If you’re not—well you’re not getting elected. That trucker in NJ proves this theory. He appealed to people and won despite only spending $153 against a much larger and powerful Dem.

If Democrats want to win the legislature in some states they'd have to win the popular vote by such a margin as to make it a nearly insurmountable task. To win the House of Representatives it has to be by at least 5 under current lines. That's not a how democracy should work nor is it fair or democratic.

also many Democrats didn't vote in New Jersey

Many people of both parties don't vote. Perhaps because their candidates do not appeal to them enough to create such motivation.

[Kanna Kamui]

Legionaries gets it. Thank you. Good God—if you’re appealing, you’ll get elected. If you’re not—well you’re not getting elected. That trucker in NJ proves this theory. He appealed to people and won despite only spending $153 against a much larger and powerful Dem.

If Democrats want to win the legislature in some states they'd have to win the popular vote by such a margin as to make it a nearly insurmountable task. To win the House of Representatives it has to be by at least 5 under current lines. That's not a how democracy should work nor is it fair or democratic.

also many Democrats didn't vote in New Jersey

I live in NJ. I’m registered with no affiliation. I saw so many Republicans because they were pumped up. I talked with them in the line. They were happy and excited. Mate, why do you think they didn’t show up? Apathy. The Republicans were much more alive while the Dems saw the poll numbers for Murphy and were like, “Yeah, he’s gonna win.” and stayed home. I think that’s a problem with the Dem base: they are super-demoralized at the moment. And it is democratic for districts to flip. Republicans did this in 2016 after a shellacking in 2012, the Democrats can do it too. It’s never a good thing to have strong winners in contested districts unless one candidate sucks. That’s just how the game is, and you can’t be upset when the rules don’t favor you. This is what the process does.

[Kanna Kamui]

If Democrats want to win the legislature in some states they'd have to win the popular vote by such a margin as to make it a nearly insurmountable task. To win the House of Representatives it has to be by at least 5 under current lines. That's not a how democracy should work nor is it fair or democratic.

also many Democrats didn't vote in New Jersey

Many people of both parties don't vote. Perhaps because their candidates do not appeal to them enough to create such motivation.

This, this, and this.

[Kowani]

States gerrymander their maps, this isn't new nor an insurmountable obstacle. If you give those people what they want, you'll be drawing the map before long.

Legionaries gets it. Thank you. Good God—if you’re appealing, you’ll get elected. If you’re not—well you’re not getting elected. That trucker in NJ proves this theory. He appealed to people and won despite only spending $153 against a much larger and powerful Dem.

this is literally the strongest contemporary example of nationalized elections/TPO possible and you're blaming it on the campaigns
why are NSGers like this

[San Lumen]

If Democrats want to win the legislature in some states they'd have to win the popular vote by such a margin as to make it a nearly insurmountable task. To win the House of Representatives it has to be by at least 5 under current lines. That's not a how democracy should work nor is it fair or democratic.

also many Democrats didn't vote in New Jersey

I live in NJ. I’m registered with no affiliation. I saw so many Republicans because they were pumped up. I talked with them in the line. They were happy and excited. Mate, why do you think they didn’t show up? Apathy. The Republicans were much more alive while the Dems saw the poll numbers for Murphy and were like, “Yeah, he’s gonna win.” and stayed home. I think that’s a problem with the Dem base: they are super-demoralized at the moment. And it is democratic for districts to flip. Republicans did this in 2016 after a shellacking in 2012, the Democrats can do it too. It’s never a good thing to have strong winners in contested districts unless one candidate sucks. That’s just how the game is, and you can’t be upset when the rules don’t favor you. This is what the process does.

They need to get off their butts and vote every election instead of being asleep at the wheel.

[American Legionaries]

I live in NJ. I’m registered with no affiliation. I saw so many Republicans because they were pumped up. I talked with them in the line. They were happy and excited. Mate, why do you think they didn’t show up? Apathy. The Republicans were much more alive while the Dems saw the poll numbers for Murphy and were like, “Yeah, he’s gonna win.” and stayed home. I think that’s a problem with the Dem base: they are super-demoralized at the moment. And it is democratic for districts to flip. Republicans did this in 2016 after a shellacking in 2012, the Democrats can do it too. It’s never a good thing to have strong winners in contested districts unless one candidate sucks. That’s just how the game is, and you can’t be upset when the rules don’t favor you. This is what the process does.

They need to get off their butts and vote every election instead of being asleep at the wheel.

Nobody is entitled to their vote.

[Kanna Kamui]

I live in NJ. I’m registered with no affiliation. I saw so many Republicans because they were pumped up. I talked with them in the line. They were happy and excited. Mate, why do you think they didn’t show up? Apathy. The Republicans were much more alive while the Dems saw the poll numbers for Murphy and were like, “Yeah, he’s gonna win.” and stayed home. I think that’s a problem with the Dem base: they are super-demoralized at the moment. And it is democratic for districts to flip. Republicans did this in 2016 after a shellacking in 2012, the Democrats can do it too. It’s never a good thing to have strong winners in contested districts unless one candidate sucks. That’s just how the game is, and you can’t be upset when the rules don’t favor you. This is what the process does.

They need to get off their butts and vote every election instead of being asleep at the wheel.

And that’s a your party problem. Not the Republicans. You guys have to fix it. If people aren’t going to vote for your party, you’ve got to light the fire under their ass to get them moving. It’s just a matter of getting these people fired up because right now, they’re asleep. So get your party ready to vote and get them fired up.

[Washington Resistance Army]

I live in NJ. I’m registered with no affiliation. I saw so many Republicans because they were pumped up. I talked with them in the line. They were happy and excited. Mate, why do you think they didn’t show up? Apathy. The Republicans were much more alive while the Dems saw the poll numbers for Murphy and were like, “Yeah, he’s gonna win.” and stayed home. I think that’s a problem with the Dem base: they are super-demoralized at the moment. And it is democratic for districts to flip. Republicans did this in 2016 after a shellacking in 2012, the Democrats can do it too. It’s never a good thing to have strong winners in contested districts unless one candidate sucks. That’s just how the game is, and you can’t be upset when the rules don’t favor you. This is what the process does.

They need to get off their butts and vote every election instead of being asleep at the wheel.

I mean, why should they? What have the Dems to inspire enthusiasm and turnout in the past year or two? You're not entitled to votes and if you fail to deliver people are gonna stay home.

[The Black Forrest]

I live in NJ. I’m registered with no affiliation. I saw so many Republicans because they were pumped up. I talked with them in the line. They were happy and excited. Mate, why do you think they didn’t show up? Apathy. The Republicans were much more alive while the Dems saw the poll numbers for Murphy and were like, “Yeah, he’s gonna win.” and stayed home. I think that’s a problem with the Dem base: they are super-demoralized at the moment. And it is democratic for districts to flip. Republicans did this in 2016 after a shellacking in 2012, the Democrats can do it too. It’s never a good thing to have strong winners in contested districts unless one candidate sucks. That’s just how the game is, and you can’t be upset when the rules don’t favor you. This is what the process does.

They need to get off their butts and vote every election instead of being asleep at the wheel.

Isn't that the job of the candidate? Or...are they supposed to decide between voting white or voting blue? Vote for who you want; it's a free election.

[San Lumen]

They need to get off their butts and vote every election instead of being asleep at the wheel.

Nobody is entitled to their vote.

Republicans fall in line and Democrats fall in love, the former is why Republicans win

[The Two Jerseys]

Nobody is entitled to their vote.

Republicans fall in line and Democrats fall in love, the former is why Republicans win

Again, that sounds like your team's problem...

[Kanna Kamui]

Nobody is entitled to their vote.

Republicans fall in line and Democrats fall in love, the former is why Republicans win

I supported Obama during both of his terms. I am now voting Republican. And this argument can be made both ways, as the the entire left propped up Biden, despite progressives wanting Bernie. Do you not remember #votebluenomatterwho last year?

[San Lumen]

Republicans fall in line and Democrats fall in love, the former is why Republicans win

Again, that sounds like your team's problem...

Yes and it needs to change. If the 1948 election happened today Dewey would have probably won.

[San Lumen]

Republicans fall in line and Democrats fall in love, the former is why Republicans win

I supported Obama during both of his terms. I am now voting Republican. And this argument can be made both ways, as the the entire left propped up Biden, despite progressives wanting Bernie. Do you not remember #votebluenomatterwho last year?

Biden won a free and fair primary. Get over it.

[Kowani]

Justice Department sues Texas over voting restrictions, alleging certain provisions in SB1 violate the Voting Rights Act and the Civil Rights Act of 1964