American Politics VIII: Dancin' with Manchin

[The Jamesian Republic]

I know I wasn’t the first. However this is the first page so that counts.

I am only one space behind P. Springer.

I hope you get that promotion.


Anyway in terms of politics where to start?

[The Black Forrest]

So Trump wants to to drag out the executive privilege claim in the courts. Trying to argue it’s nothing more then a political witch hunt.

They lets have a look at them. If in fact nothing is there; it would really hurt the democrats.

[Great Algerstonia]

I am only one space behind P. Springer.

I hope you get that promotion.


Anyway in terms of politics where to start?

How about those damn Russians!?!?!?!?!?!?

[Hukhalia]

I hope you get that promotion.


Anyway in terms of politics where to start?

How about those damn Russians!?!?!?!?!?!?

tbh i always wondered what the common justification is for america not recognising russian control of crimea

[Michael F Harrison]

I am only one space behind P. Springer.

I hope you get that promotion.


Anyway in terms of politics where to start?

It's no promotion, it's just who's in line for which award at the end of the year.

I got fourth, when I should've been given third.

[HISPIDA]

How about those damn Russians!?!?!?!?!?!?

tbh i always wondered what the common justification is for america not recognising russian control of crimea

"its illegal"

which i mean, it is, but so is guantanamo

also russia bad

[Great Algerstonia]

How about those damn Russians!?!?!?!?!?!?

tbh i always wondered what the common justification is for america not recognising russian control of crimea

Because Crimea does not exist and was a ruse made by Vladimir Putin to trick the Democrats into nuking the ocean thinking there was Russian troops there and the Democrats almost fell for it and the Republicans saved America again

[Forsher]

So Trump wants to to drag out the executive privilege claim in the courts. Trying to argue it’s nothing more then a political witch hunt.

They lets have a look at them. If in fact nothing is there; it would really hurt the democrats.

He can make a meal out of nothing, risk free. And the reward's greater, the harder anyone trying to get at the materials because the anticlimax is greater.

If there is actually stuff he needs to hide, he's also going to fight it and make as much noise as possible.

You can't intimidate judges by working your followers up into a frenzy if you're not allowed to publicise that you're fighting something through the courts in the first place.

[Hukhalia]

tbh i always wondered what the common justification is for america not recognising russian control of crimea

"its illegal"

which i mean, it is, but so is guantanamo

I mean sure, but you can't deny that Crimea [a] is majority Russian, [b] has always been majority Russian, [c] was only given to Ukraine via a constitutionally dubious decision, and [d] independent polling shows that the average Crimean believes that the referendum on Crimea's sovereignty (which returned a pro-Russian result) was legitimate.

Not going to justify Russia in general but it does seem awfully odd that America's so intent on deterring "Russian aggression" when this was actually a reclamation effort that came way too late. Families were reunited and it was a generally popular decision in both Crimea and Russia. The invasion was by and large bloodless, as well. Honestly, I fail to see what was bad about the whole affair.

[The Jamesian Republic]

So Trump wants to to drag out the executive privilege claim in the courts. Trying to argue it’s nothing more then a political witch hunt.

They lets have a look at them. If in fact nothing is there; it would really hurt the democrats.

He can make a meal out of nothing, risk free. And the reward's greater, the harder anyone trying to get at the materials because the anticlimax is greater.

If there is actually stuff he needs to hide, he's also going to fight it and make as much noise as possible.

You can't intimidate judges by working your followers up into a frenzy if you're not allowed to publicise that you're fighting something through the courts in the first place.

I think Trump also wanted credit for Youngkin winning.

[HISPIDA]

"its illegal"

which i mean, it is, but so is guantanamo

I mean sure, but you can't deny that Crimea [a] is majority Russian, [b] has always been majority Russian, [c] was only given to Ukraine via a constitutionally dubious decision, and [d] independent polling shows that the average Crimean believes that the referendum on Crimea's sovereignty (which returned a pro-Russian result) was legitimate.

Not going to justify Russia in general but it does seem awfully odd that America's so intent on deterring "Russian aggression" when this was actually a reclamation effort that came way too late. Families were reunited and it was a generally popular decision in both Crimea and Russia. The invasion was by and large bloodless, as well. Honestly, I fail to see what was bad about the whole affair.

i mean, i do think crimea is russian. has been for almost 8 years now. it was just seized illegally tbh

[Hukhalia]

I mean sure, but you can't deny that Crimea [a] is majority Russian, [b] has always been majority Russian, [c] was only given to Ukraine via a constitutionally dubious decision, and [d] independent polling shows that the average Crimean believes that the referendum on Crimea's sovereignty (which returned a pro-Russian result) was legitimate.

Not going to justify Russia in general but it does seem awfully odd that America's so intent on deterring "Russian aggression" when this was actually a reclamation effort that came way too late. Families were reunited and it was a generally popular decision in both Crimea and Russia. The invasion was by and large bloodless, as well. Honestly, I fail to see what was bad about the whole affair.

i mean, i do think crimea is russian. has been for almost 8 years now. it was just seized illegally tbh

i am sure that the rabidly russophobic euromaidan govt. of ukraine would have been very willing to negotiate a legal transfer of the strategically important territory

[HISPIDA]

i mean, i do think crimea is russian. has been for almost 8 years now. it was just seized illegally tbh

i am sure that the rabidly russophobic euromaidan govt. of ukraine would be very willing to negotiate a legal transfer of the strategically important territory

you asked for common opinion, i gave you common opinion
never said it was a right one

[Hukhalia]

i am sure that the rabidly russophobic euromaidan govt. of ukraine would be very willing to negotiate a legal transfer of the strategically important territory

you asked for common opinion, i gave you common opinion
never said it was a right one

touche

[San Lumen]

He can make a meal out of nothing, risk free. And the reward's greater, the harder anyone trying to get at the materials because the anticlimax is greater.

If there is actually stuff he needs to hide, he's also going to fight it and make as much noise as possible.

You can't intimidate judges by working your followers up into a frenzy if you're not allowed to publicise that you're fighting something through the courts in the first place.

I think Trump also wanted credit for Youngkin winning.

Of course he does. His base turned out and ours didn't

[Vassenor]

He can make a meal out of nothing, risk free. And the reward's greater, the harder anyone trying to get at the materials because the anticlimax is greater.

If there is actually stuff he needs to hide, he's also going to fight it and make as much noise as possible.

You can't intimidate judges by working your followers up into a frenzy if you're not allowed to publicise that you're fighting something through the courts in the first place.

I think Trump also wanted credit for Youngkin winning.

Yes but Trump wants credit for the sun rising and setting each day. Praise him. Worship him.

[Senkaku]

i mean, i do think crimea is russian. has been for almost 8 years now. it was just seized illegally tbh

i am sure that the rabidly russophobic euromaidan govt. of ukraine would have been very willing to negotiate a legal transfer of the strategically important territory

Did I miss the previous and self-evidently much nicer and cuddlier govt. of Ukraine showing any inclination towards doing that during its tenure

[Neutraligon]

So with Covid winding down and rent support disappearing while people have a backlog of rent due to the obvious...what do you think should be done about homelessness?

[The Jamesian Republic]

I think Trump also wanted credit for Youngkin winning.

Yes but Trump wants credit for the sun rising and setting each day. Praise him. Worship him.

You won’t find me doing that.

[The Black Forrest]

So with Covid winding down and rent support disappearing while people have a backlog of rent due to the obvious...what do you think should be done about homelessness?

Talk of rugged individualism!

[San Lumen]

So with Covid winding down and rent support disappearing while people have a backlog of rent due to the obvious...what do you think should be done about homelessness?

we should do what Salt lake City did and build homes for them and provide support to get them back on their feet. Shelters aren't a solution.

[Eahland]

Biden Social Spending Bill Whittled Down To $10 Billion Check To Joe Manchin

The progressives need to learn that they can't get everything they want and pass the bill already. Compromise is how things get done in a democracy. If the progressives keep killing Biden's domestic Joe Manchin agenda, we'll lose the midterms.

[Neutraligon]

So with Covid winding down and rent support disappearing while people have a backlog of rent due to the obvious...what do you think should be done about homelessness?

we should do what Salt lake City did and build homes for them and provide support to get them back on their feet. Shelters aren't a solution.

Considering NIMBY, how do you propose this?

[Neutraligon]

Biden Social Spending Bill Whittled Down To $10 Billion Check To Joe Manchin

The progressives need to learn that they can't get everything they want and pass the bill already. Compromise is how things get done in a democracy. If the progressives keep killing Biden's domestic Joe Manchin agenda, we'll lose the midterms.

...How is it compromise when you get practically nothing?

[Necroghastia]

Biden Social Spending Bill Whittled Down To $10 Billion Check To Joe Manchin

The progressives need to learn that they can't get everything they want and pass the bill already. Compromise is how things get done in a democracy. If the progressives keep killing Biden's domestic Joe Manchin agenda, we'll lose the midterms.

Why do the progressives need to be the ones constantly capitulating? What makes you think that pithy pittances instead of actual things getting done are what people want?