American Politics VIII: Dancin' with Manchin

[Danubia-Slavia]

So shoving media propaganda down kids' throats is your solution? I wanna be civil but you guys are actually sounding despicable.

"Media propaganda"

Riddle me this, have you disproved the safety and efficacy of vaccination?

That's not even my point. If youet the media preach one thing, they can preach anything.

[Picairn]

You forget that the collective would not exist without individials. The collective is just a group, not an entity.

Individual action impacts the whole group in terms of disease.

[Genivaria]

"Media propaganda"

Riddle me this, have you disproved the safety and efficacy of vaccination?

That's not even my point. If youet the media preach one thing, they can preach anything.

Oh my sweet summer child.

[Danubia-Slavia]

Getting their kids killed is another story, but refusing a Covid vaccine won't kill your kids. Children are more resistant to the virus. It's only lethal to immunocompromised individuals.

No they're not, they're the most susceptible carrier group.

Keyword lethal,I didn't say anything about infectivity.(Which the vaccine doesn't prevent anyway.)

[Neutraligon]

"Media propaganda"

Riddle me this, have you disproved the safety and efficacy of vaccination?

That's not even my point. If youet the media preach one thing, they can preach anything.

They can already preach basicallyanything. Why do you have an issue with that. Do you want to limit free speexh?

[The Black Forrest]

A tad too late when the kid is dead.

We would also have trumpist politicians screaming and passing bills to limit child protection over the vaccine.

That of course ignores they are already overworked as it is.

Basically……child services is not a viable solution.

So shoving media propaganda down kids' throats is your solution? I wanna be civil but you guys are actually sounding despicable.

You obviously don’t know anything about Sesame Street.

They are simply showing that a shot isn’t that bad. That’s good thing with all the lies which have been spred by the trumpists and anti-vaxers.

[Danubia-Slavia]

That's not even my point. If youet the media preach one thing, they can preach anything.

They can already preach basicallyanything. Why do you have an issue with that. Do you want to limit free speexh?

I'm for free speech, doesn't mean I like what corpos say.

[Necroghastia]

who is "forcing facts on people?" what is a good reason for being against a goddamn vaccine that isn't based on a lie that's been disproven several times over, and why shouldn't we continue to point out that lies are lies?

??????
an example of what????

god fucking forbid we help people make informed decisions though right

I've gotta live with them, so nah.

and if the parents are shit? should we just let parents raise kids in a goddamn cult if that is their want? if the parents tell kids the kkk are nice men doing good things, that's just dandy?

lmao are you now arguing that the sorts of people that spread vaccine misinfo are also the ones who have any fondness at all for public broadcasting

I'm not giving you a reason, go ask them yourself.

If you refuse to back up your argument, don't make it in the first place. Pure cowardice.

Example of people thinking something was factually safe but wasn't.

lol and you got on MY case about false dichotomies

Do it on your own time, the corpos can screw off trying to shove their preaching down kids' throats.

...what???

Fascist detected.

lmao aren't us lefties supposed to be the ones bandying that around for everyone we slightly disagree with

If they abuse their kids that's one thing, but have you ever thought that people are allowed to be reprehensible?

Have YOU ever thought that people might want to be a force for good for more than themselves?

Yes.

what the fuck plane of unreality are you from

[Neutraligon]

They can already preach basicallyanything. Why do you have an issue with that. Do you want to limit free speexh?

I'm for free speech, doesn't mean I like what corpos say.

You are advocating against it though.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Danubia-Slavia

I have a question for you. Let’s say the constitution allows for the government to call a national referendum. In this case “Should there be a national vaccine mandate?” Would you vote:

“Yes”
-or-
“No”

[Danubia-Slavia]

So shoving media propaganda down kids' throats is your solution? I wanna be civil but you guys are actually sounding despicable.

You obviously don’t know anything about Sesame Street.

They are simply showing that a shot isn’t that bad. That’s good thing with all the lies which have been spred by the trumpists and anti-vaxers.

You are clearly delusional if you think Truml supporters are anti-vax,they just don't trust this one. And here I thought you actually knew anything at all.

[Antipatros]

So shoving media propaganda down kids' throats is your solution? I wanna be civil but you guys are actually sounding despicable.

Last I checked Sesame Street isn't Two Minutes Hate, and parents are free to not let their kids watch it if they don't want their kids to learn harmful ideas like 2 + 2 = 4.

Ah, but you see, 2 + 2 = 4 goes against my personal theory of mathematics which I developed through research I conducted on Facebook.

[Necroghastia]

And here I thought you supported the free marketplace of ideas. Why shouldn't a kids show get to do this?

There's a difference between it can and whether it should. Just leave people alone.

So leave the people who work on the show alone.

[Danubia-Slavia]

Danubia-Slavia

I have a question for you. Let’s say the constitution allows for the government to call a national referendum. In this case “Should there be a national vaccine mandate?” Would you vote:

“Yes”
-or-
“No”

I wouldn't vote. I'm an anarchist. Tyranny is tyranny whether it's decided by one or millions. Screw democracy.

[Picairn]

That's not even my point. If youet the media preach one thing, they can preach anything.

They already preached their own agenda, you're late by 40 years. Does individual agency cease to exist in this hypothetical scenario?

And this is medical facts we are talking about.

[Neutraligon]

You obviously don’t know anything about Sesame Street.

They are simply showing that a shot isn’t that bad. That’s good thing with all the lies which have been spred by the trumpists and anti-vaxers.

You are clearly delusional if you think Truml supporters are anti-vax,they just don't trust this one. And here I thought you actually knew anything at all.

Considering we are seeing them turn against other vaccines this is not true. And considering how many have already had these vaccines, there is no reason to be against this one.

[Danubia-Slavia]

There's a difference between it can and whether it should. Just leave people alone.

So leave the people who work on the show alone.

Sure, just saying they should do the same with others.

[The Black Forrest]

Big Bird getting a vaccination and saying 'I'm still ok!' isn't force.

Also no, I'm not going to just let people get their kids killed because they refuse to believe reality, particularly not if there's also a chance of them spreading it to other people.

Getting their kids killed is another story, but refusing a Covid vaccine won't kill your kids. Children are more resistant to the virus. It's only lethal to immunocompromised individuals.

I would ask for a source. However, I suspect you don’t have any.

Kids are not starting to die from covid. Trumpists and anti-vaxers said they were practicaly immunie. In the US; only 6 states have reported no child deaths.

[Albrenia]

You obviously don’t know anything about Sesame Street.

They are simply showing that a shot isn’t that bad. That’s good thing with all the lies which have been spred by the trumpists and anti-vaxers.

You are clearly delusional if you think Truml supporters are anti-vax,they just don't trust this one. And here I thought you actually knew anything at all.

Despite the fact Trump took this one, and made no small amount of noise that it was the 'Trump Vaccine not the Biden Vaccine'.

[Danubia-Slavia]

You are clearly delusional if you think Truml supporters are anti-vax,they just don't trust this one. And here I thought you actually knew anything at all.

Considering we are seeing them turn against other vaccines this is not true. And considering how many have already had these vaccines, there is no reason to be against this one.

Have you actually asked a Trump supporter(an educated one) why they don't trust the vax?

[Neutraligon]

Danubia-Slavia

I have a question for you. Let’s say the constitution allows for the government to call a national referendum. In this case “Should there be a national vaccine mandate?” Would you vote:

“Yes”
-or-
“No”

I wouldn't vote. I'm an anarchist. Tyranny is tyranny whether it's decided by one or millions. Screw democracy.

Humans are social, anarchy is not possible.

[Neutraligon]

Considering we are seeing them turn against other vaccines this is not true. And considering how many have already had these vaccines, there is no reason to be against this one.

Have you actually asked a Trump supporter(an educated one) why they don't trust the vax?

I have yet to meet an educated trump supporter who is against the vaccine.

[Neutraligon]

So leave the people who work on the show alone.

Sure, just saying they should do the same with others.

They already do, after all nobody is forcing the kids to watch sesame street.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Danubia-Slavia

I have a question for you. Let’s say the constitution allows for the government to call a national referendum. In this case “Should there be a national vaccine mandate?” Would you vote:

“Yes”
-or-
“No”

I wouldn't vote. I'm an anarchist. Tyranny is tyranny whether it's decided by one or millions. Screw democracy.

I see then. However I said this because instead of an executive order made by the president the people in this case would at least choose to have a mandate.

[Genivaria]

I wouldn't vote. I'm an anarchist. Tyranny is tyranny whether it's decided by one or millions. Screw democracy.

Humans are social, anarchy is not possible.

Not this objectivist nonsense anyway.