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Is he guilty or is he not guilty?

Poll ended at Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:09 pm

Guilty of all charges
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Guilty of some charges
113
14%
Not guilty - self defense
452
55%
Not guilty - other reason
7
1%
Objection! Mistrial or something
13
2%
I don't know or care...
50
6%
 
Total votes : 816

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Postby The 189 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:36 pm

Antipatros wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Well this is messed up.BREAKING: Multiple People Injured After Person Driving SUV Plows Through Waukesha Christmas Parade – Reports of Gunshots (VIDEO) waukesha is an hour from kenosha.
Buddy of mine opined if this could be related to rittenhouse being found not guilty verdict?

Possible.

It was definitely deliberate. They started at the back of the parade and drove through the whole route.

EDIT: Gunfire could be them or from the cops, I'm not sure.


That's horrible. What is wrong with people?
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Postby Haganham » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:50 pm

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Antipatros wrote:Possible.

It was definitely deliberate. They started at the back of the parade and drove through the whole route.

EDIT: Gunfire could be them or from the cops, I'm not sure.


That's horrible. What is wrong with people?

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Postby Gravlen » Sun Nov 21, 2021 6:53 pm

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Gravlen wrote:I see no evidence so far suggesting a link between the Rittenhouse case and the car, that sounds like baseless speculation at this point in time.


That's kind of what we do here though. Speculate and share opinions.

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Postby Hispida » Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:56 pm

conservative twitter is exploding in real time as rittenhouse says that he supports BLM
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Postby Albrenia » Sun Nov 21, 2021 7:59 pm

Hispida wrote:conservative twitter is exploding in real time as rittenhouse says that he supports BLM
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What, really?

That would be hilarious, if incredibly dangerous for Rittenhouse himself. He'd be hated by two sets of people.

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Postby Port Caverton » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:02 pm

Hispida wrote:conservative twitter is exploding in real time as rittenhouse says that he supports BLM
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Literally nearly nothing is happening there lol
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Postby The 189 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:05 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Hispida wrote:conservative twitter is exploding in real time as rittenhouse says that he supports BLM
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What, really?

That would be hilarious, if incredibly dangerous for Rittenhouse himself. He'd be hated by two sets of people.


Yeah, I saw a headline about that. I guess he doesn't want to be a pawn for the right-wing propaganda machine. I'm pleasantly surprised.
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Postby Albrenia » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:06 pm

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What, really?

That would be hilarious, if incredibly dangerous for Rittenhouse himself. He'd be hated by two sets of people.


Yeah, I saw a headline about that. I guess he doesn't want to be a pawn for the right-wing propaganda machine. I'm pleasantly surprised.


Well good on him for that, although now I'm even more worried that some crazy asshole will shoot him.

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Postby Fahran » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:08 pm

Hispida wrote:conservative twitter is exploding in real time as rittenhouse says that he supports BLM
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Postby The 189 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:08 pm

Albrenia wrote:
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Yeah, I saw a headline about that. I guess he doesn't want to be a pawn for the right-wing propaganda machine. I'm pleasantly surprised.


Well good on him for that, although now I'm even more worried that some crazy asshole will shoot him.


I think Rittenhouse has better aim than the crazies. :p
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Postby Port Caverton » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:09 pm

Albrenia wrote:
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Yeah, I saw a headline about that. I guess he doesn't want to be a pawn for the right-wing propaganda machine. I'm pleasantly surprised.


Well good on him for that, although now I'm even more worried that some crazy asshole will shoot him.

Don't worry about it. There's way more Dems questioning his support of BLM than conservatives complaining about him supporting BLM (atleast from what I've seen on Twitter).
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:13 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:Well this is messed up.BREAKING: Multiple People Injured After Person Driving SUV Plows Through Waukesha Christmas Parade – Reports of Gunshots (VIDEO) waukesha is an hour from kenosha.
Buddy of mine opined if this could be related to rittenhouse being found not guilty verdict?

Nah, probably just a horribly drunk driver.

Like, really drunk.
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Postby Haganham » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:14 pm

it's almost like blm is many different things and only the most deranged loons either oppose or support all of them.
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Postby The 189 » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:16 pm

Haganham wrote:it's almost like blm is many different things and only the most deranged loons either oppose or support all of them.


True.

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Well this is messed up.BREAKING: Multiple People Injured After Person Driving SUV Plows Through Waukesha Christmas Parade – Reports of Gunshots (VIDEO) waukesha is an hour from kenosha.
Buddy of mine opined if this could be related to rittenhouse being found not guilty verdict?

Nah, probably just a horribly drunk driver.

Like, really drunk.


It looked intentional, but I am not sure what their motivation was.
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:18 pm

The 189 wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Nah, probably just a horribly drunk driver.

Like, really drunk.


It looked intentional, but I am not sure what their motivation was.


Still placing my bets on meth-demons.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:29 pm

Hispida wrote:conservative twitter is exploding in real time as rittenhouse says that he supports BLM
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Postby Bear Stearns » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:29 pm

The 189 wrote:
Haganham wrote:it's almost like blm is many different things and only the most deranged loons either oppose or support all of them.


True.

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Nah, probably just a horribly drunk driver.

Like, really drunk.


It looked intentional, but I am not sure what their motivation was.


gee if i had to guess
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Postby Seangoli » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:36 pm

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The 189 wrote:
True.



It looked intentional, but I am not sure what their motivation was.


gee if i had to guess


Any speculation right now is just idle speculation based on prejudices and biases that have nothing to do with reality. Until the police release an official statement, this sort of assumption is not just baseless - but actively harmful to cohesive society and mature discourse on subjects. It's an "own the other side" belief system, which is frankly the most damaging aspect of modern day politics and culture, and one which both sides gleefully embrace in lieu of actual useful dialogues and discourse.


It could be a thousand things unrelated to Rittenhouse, and there is absolutely nothing at all to indicate it is related outside of coinciding with the acquittal, which is hardly enough of to even make a well educated guess.

I despise this sort of idle speculation, because people make this claim believing it true based on personal biases, using the times it was correct to form confirmation bias and promptly ignore every time they are wrong, without ever admitting it.

If I am to be blunt, people need to shut up a out their idle and baseless speculation. One of the individuals is in custody; we'll have more information likely tomorrow, so there is zero point in speculating absolute nonsense.

It's patently absurd to think this was related to Rittenhouse right now. It could be, certainly, or it could be any number of wholly more likely scenarios ranging from the individuals running from a crime scene, to drugs, to horribly drunk drivers, etc.

Whats worse is that it is utterly disrespectful to the victims in this case, as it is interjecting personal politics where it need not be, by people who very obviously give zero ducks about what happened to them, and only that it's a chance to own the other side. I have much, much stronger words I wish I could use, but I feel that is probably not going to end well if I do.

So how about instead of being a petty idealogue making baseless assumptions for political points, maybe we just respect the victims for the night until we find out what happened?
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Postby Antipatros » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:51 pm

I'm a little skeptical of the impaired driver/accident hypothesis, but I concede that it's possible.

I've viewed some of the videos of the incident and managed to geolocate them using Google Earth/Streetview. Based on the direction of travel and the way they were driving the car, I'd say that this was probably an intentional attack.

Speculating on the motivation and injecting personal politics into this is a bit tasteless, I agree.

EDIT: Some of the videos are very upsetting, I wouldn't recommend searching for them. I could post some non-graphic screenshots along with the locations I found, but I'm kinda leaning against doing that.
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Postby Galloism » Sun Nov 21, 2021 8:57 pm

Gravlen wrote:
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That's kind of what we do here though. Speculate and share opinions.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:23 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:Well this is messed up.BREAKING: Multiple People Injured After Person Driving SUV Plows Through Waukesha Christmas Parade – Reports of Gunshots (VIDEO) waukesha is an hour from kenosha.
Buddy of mine opined if this could be related to rittenhouse being found not guilty verdict?

Nah, probably just a horribly drunk driver.

Like, really drunk.

Ford makes that Mustang SUV now, so there's also that angle...
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Postby Xmara » Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:36 pm

Grinning Dragon wrote:Well this is messed up.BREAKING: Multiple People Injured After Person Driving SUV Plows Through Waukesha Christmas Parade – Reports of Gunshots (VIDEO) waukesha is an hour from kenosha.
Buddy of mine opined if this could be related to rittenhouse being found not guilty verdict?

Great, that’s all we need…

I’m not going to speculate though on whether or not it’s connected in any way to the trial, but I will say that I hope it wasn’t.
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Oh,it is not about the racists in Wisconsin specifically. It is because the entire USA is perceived as a rotten society designed to marginalise and abuse certain population groups.
Yes, there is some irony here considering the USA pretends to be founded to get away from that in the first place.

But you would have known that had you ever bothered to listen to the explanations provided. Trevor Noah did an excellent one during the BLM riots. You can disagree with him - and I am guessing most Americans will be unwilling to self-reflect to the point that they acknowledge they are vile and evil just for supporting the fundamental workings of their current society- but saying "I do not understand" is just laziness.

Asking for the majority of people to view themselves as vile and evil is generally not a winning strategy bucko. Most people don't hate themselves nor do they want to hate themselves. That is because most people are, for the most part, well adjusted normal people without too many hang ups.
That's the problem with these identity groups only united by grievances, their rage at their belief that the entire world is united against them destroys any attempts at solidarity and often results in the groups simply becoming bitter and hateful under the belief that nothing will change unless everyone agrees with them.


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Hispida wrote:conservative twitter is exploding in real time as rittenhouse says that he supports BLM
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Holy based. What a madlad.

Well he got to see first hand at just how bad the American Legal system really is.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sun Nov 21, 2021 11:53 pm

Immortan Khan wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Oh,it is not about the racists in Wisconsin specifically. It is because the entire USA is perceived as a rotten society designed to marginalise and abuse certain population groups.
Yes, there is some irony here considering the USA pretends to be founded to get away from that in the first place.

But you would have known that had you ever bothered to listen to the explanations provided. Trevor Noah did an excellent one during the BLM riots. You can disagree with him - and I am guessing most Americans will be unwilling to self-reflect to the point that they acknowledge they are vile and evil just for supporting the fundamental workings of their current society- but saying "I do not understand" is just laziness.

Asking for the majority of people to view themselves as vile and evil is generally not a winning strategy bucko. Most people don't hate themselves nor do they want to hate themselves. That is because most people are, for the most part, well adjusted normal people without too many hang ups.

And yet you expect *others* to do exactly that.

Funny, is it not ?

Also,are you truly "well adjusted" if you refuse to critically look at your society - or are you just putting your hand in the sand out of cowardice?
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Postby The 189 » Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:03 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Immortan Khan wrote:Asking for the majority of people to view themselves as vile and evil is generally not a winning strategy bucko. Most people don't hate themselves nor do they want to hate themselves. That is because most people are, for the most part, well adjusted normal people without too many hang ups.

And yet you expect *others* to do exactly that.

Funny, is it not ?


Where did he say others should hate themselves?
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