Kyle Rittenhouse goes to trial

[Grinning Dragon]

WHO IS JOSHUA ZIMINSKI

Tall guy. Has a beard that night. Walks around with a pistol in his hand all night.

He fired the first shot as Rittenhouse fled, gathered up a crowd to confront Rittenhouse after shooting Rosenbaum, then incited the crowd to chase Rittenhouse down when he fled the crowd he had gathered.

I was going to say a cancerous shit stain, however yours is bit more in-depth.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Tall guy. Has a beard that night. Walks around with a pistol in his hand all night.

He fired the first shot as Rittenhouse fled, gathered up a crowd to confront Rittenhouse after shooting Rosenbaum, then incited the crowd to chase Rittenhouse down when he fled the crowd he had gathered.

I was going to say a cancerous shit stain, however yours it bit more in-depth.

Essentially a dude that marched protesters to their death for the lolz and may/not have opened fire from a second story window shortly afterwards.

Pretty much also had a shit-eating grin the entire time.

[Katganistan]

So basically, kid in over his head who meant well but did not consider that being inexperienced, in the middle of a protest, armed, was not the best idea in the world.

Actually that being in the middle of a protest "to protect property" was a poor choice -- that's what insurance is for, Kyle.

[Grinning Dragon]

I was going to say a cancerous shit stain, however yours it bit more in-depth.

Essentially a dude that marched protesters to their death for the lolz and may/not have opened fire from a second story window shortly afterwards.

Pretty much also had a shit-eating grin the entire time.

Yeah, they guy is nothing more than a shit stir'er and of no particular worth.

And the way the prosecution is operating will most likely end up being used in law school as a teaching aid/course.

[Grinning Dragon]

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[Grinning Dragon]

So basically, kid in over his head who meant well but did not consider that being inexperienced, in the middle of a protest, armed, was not the best idea in the world.

Actually that being in the middle of a protest "to protect property" was a poor choice -- that's what insurance is for, Kyle.

A great many insurers don't cover destruction due to civil unrest and if you can prevent the destruction of your property and avoid the lengthy process of it all, not to mention the loss of revenue in the meantime, why wouldn't one do so?
One thing I do question, is why wasn't the owner(s) out there protecting their property as well?

[Immortan Khan]

So basically, kid in over his head who meant well but did not consider that being inexperienced, in the middle of a protest, armed, was not the best idea in the world.

Actually that being in the middle of a protest "to protect property" was a poor choice -- that's what insurance is for, Kyle.

A lot of insurance policies don't cover civil unrest.

[The Two Jerseys]

I was going to say a cancerous shit stain, however yours it bit more in-depth.

Essentially a dude that marched protesters to their death for the lolz and may/not have opened fire from a second story window shortly afterwards.

Pretty much also had a shit-eating grin the entire time.

Should I hold my breath waiting for him to be charged?

[Hurtful Thoughts]

Essentially a dude that marched protesters to their death for the lolz and may/not have opened fire from a second story window shortly afterwards.

Pretty much also had a shit-eating grin the entire time.

Should I hold my breath waiting for him to be charged?

His court-date is set sometime next election.

That or as a protester, he was given a pardon/plea-deal for testifying against Rittenhouse.

[GarryOwen]

So Grosskreutz admitted on the stand that he was chasing Rittenhouse with a gun in his hand, and that Rittenhouse only shot him when he (Grosskreutz) pointed his gun at Rittenhouse. Grosskreutz also admitted that he lied to police officers in sworn statements about drawing and pointing his firearm and some other assorted facts.

So lets look up "self defense" and see if, after having other people shoot at you, stomp you in the face, hit you in the head with a skateboard and then being chased by a man with a gun who then POINTS THE GUN AT YOU might possibly count as self defense.

The only really good thing about this trial is that it looks like the prosecutors have some sense of real justice and are 'throwing' the case. I only put 'throwing' in quotes because just presenting the truth is actually what sworn court officers should do, even if the truth results in acquittal.

[Hurtful Thoughts]

So Grosskreutz admitted on the stand that he was chasing Rittenhouse with a gun in his hand, and that Rittenhouse only shot him when he (Grosskreutz) pointed his gun at Rittenhouse. Grosskreutz also admitted that he lied to police officers in sworn statements about drawing and pointing his firearm and some other assorted facts.

So lets look up "self defense" and see if, after having other people shoot at you, stomp you in the face, hit you in the head with a skateboard and then being chased by a man with a gun who then POINTS THE GUN AT YOU might possibly count as self defense.

The only really good thing about this trial is that it looks like the prosecutors have some sense of real justice and are 'throwing' the case. I only put 'throwing' in quotes because just presenting the truth is actually what sworn court officers should do, even if the truth results in acquittal.

Should probably note the name of the DA... pretty sure he'll plan to move to another state and run for mayor of some puddle-town since his career as a lawyer is kinda shot.

[Happpy]

Didn't Rittenhouse literally go into an Antifa crowd TRYING to stir shit up??? Not defending the rioters/looters who tried to attack him or whatever, but still, feel like that's something the Trump people never bring up...

[Fluvannia]

Didn't Rittenhouse literally go into an Antifa crowd TRYING to stir shit up??? Not defending the rioters/looters who tried to attack him or whatever, but still, feel like that's something the Trump people never bring up...

He's on video offering to give people first aid if they need it. If that fits your definition of "trying to stir shit up", then yes, but under a logical definition, no.

[Galloism]

Didn't Rittenhouse literally go into an Antifa crowd TRYING to stir shit up??? Not defending the rioters/looters who tried to attack him or whatever, but still, feel like that's something the Trump people never bring up...

The prosecution could not dig up a single witness claiming such, no.

In fact, the prosecution witnesses said he kept offering medical aid to protestors instead, and was eager to help them. There were several accounts of him bandaging up wounds and things like that too.

[United Latin American States]

Don't know don't care

[Wolkenburg]

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Given that by the point he pulled his pistol Grosskreutz had seen Kyle kill 2 people, would you not argue that he was well within his rights to pull his weapon?

Especially given that he testified that he was there to stop Rittenhouse from being beaten with a skateboard and Rittenhouse had pointed his rifle at him?

Got to give both sides the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their state of mind when they tried to defend themselves.

Grosskreutz had the right to pull his weapon, the way self defense law works, is that both sides could be acting is self defense.

It seems like Grosskreutz had originally put his hands up, gun in hand. to reassure Rittenhouse, then without thinking pointed his gun at Rittenhouse as he approached him.

The prosecution is politically motivated. I am not saying there shouldn't be a trial, people were shot, and the facts should be examined, but the prosecution is thinking about the political angle.

[Wolkenburg]

So basically, kid in over his head who meant well but did not consider that being inexperienced, in the middle of a protest, armed, was not the best idea in the world.

Actually that being in the middle of a protest "to protect property" was a poor choice -- that's what insurance is for, Kyle.

I think that you have a point, but the Rittenhouse said he was there to help people and had a med kit. Like Grosskreutz, he was an armed medic, just younger, less experienced and with a bigger gun (in that it was a rifle not a hand gun. Rittenhouse had a .22 I don't know what Grosskreutz had.)

Really, the best thing is not to protest.

[Vassenor]

You know it is kind of nice to have a worked example of that thing we’ve been saying all along about how “the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun” was a load of bullshit cooked up just to sell more guns. Since now we know that if you pull out a gun to stop someone who just shot someone from shooting more people, not only will it just get you killed too but everyone will go to bat to defend the right of the person who killed you to do it for your crime of trying to stop them killing more people.

And this is presumably the point where everyone loses their minds because I suggested Rittenhouse was the bad guy here and not the noble hero defending America from the evil of the Antifa supersoldiers.

[Washington Resistance Army]

You know it is kind of nice to have a worked example of that thing we’ve been saying all along about how “the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun” was a load of bullshit cooked up just to sell more guns. Since now we know that if you pull out a gun to stop someone who just shot someone from shooting more people, not only will it just get you killed too but everyone will go to bat to defend the right of the person who killed you to do it for your crime of trying to stop them killing more people.

And this is presumably the point where everyone loses their minds because I suggested Rittenhouse was the bad guy here and not the noble hero defending America from the evil of the Antifa supersoldiers.

No everyone is going to lose their minds because this is incoherent garbage that you just probably copied word for word from Twitter. You understand nothing about the topic at hand and you are content to remain willfully ignorant in your fantasies that even the prosecution has dismantled and disproven.

[Risottia]

WHO IS JOSHUA ZIMINSKI

The cretin who shot the first round in the whole mess thus escalating the thing from "ugly, tense confrontation" to "full blown shootout with people ending up quite dead".

[Washington Resistance Army]

WHO IS JOSHUA ZIMINSKI

The cretin who shot the first round in the whole mess thus escalating the thing from "ugly, tense confrontation" to "full blown shootout with people ending up quite dead".

The cretin who also had his own charges dropped, because the DA cares a lot more about trying to advance politically than actually bringing people to justice. This whole thing is a travesty.

[Antipatros]

So basically, kid in over his head who meant well but did not consider that being inexperienced, in the middle of a protest, armed, was not the best idea in the world.

Actually that being in the middle of a protest "to protect property" was a poor choice -- that's what insurance is for, Kyle.

That, and the owners of the property say they never asked for him to defend it.

Kyle going into a rioting city with a straw purchased AR and trying to LARP as a combat medic was a really bad idea. I think he probably acted in self defense, but he also made a series of bad decisions which led to this incident occurring.

EDIT: Before people jump down my throat, other people are of course to blame as well. I'm not trying to put everything on Kyle, here. Only expressing my view on what he did.

[Wolkenburg]

You know it is kind of nice to have a worked example of that thing we’ve been saying all along about how “the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun” was a load of bullshit cooked up just to sell more guns. Since now we know that if you pull out a gun to stop someone who just shot someone from shooting more people, not only will it just get you killed too but everyone will go to bat to defend the right of the person who killed you to do it for your crime of trying to stop them killing more people.

And this is presumably the point where everyone loses their minds because I suggested Rittenhouse was the bad guy here and not the noble hero defending America from the evil of the Antifa supersoldiers.

If we assume that Rittenhouse is a bad guy, then are the people he shot the heroes? Let's recount what happened:

Person 1 tried to stop an armed man with his bare hands and was shot. Person 2 used a skateboard and was shot. Person 3 had a gun, but didn't pull the trigger, and was shot.

Now, that actually reinforces the theory you need a gun to stop a guy with a gun. I am not sure where the Antifa supersoldiers come in. Isn't that an oxymoron?

I should note, that Rittenhouse seems to have spent a lot of time running away, and possibly attempted to turn himself in. So it seems that if people didn't try to stop him, he would have stopped.

[Christian Confederation]

So basically, kid in over his head who meant well but did not consider that being inexperienced, in the middle of a protest, armed, was not the best idea in the world.

Actually that being in the middle of a protest "to protect property" was a poor choice -- that's what insurance is for, Kyle.

The Insurance thing is bs. Insurance is the same scum that will spend months fighting to not pay for an accident there driver was at fault for and in the end still screw you over.

[Haganham]

So basically, kid in over his head who meant well but did not consider that being inexperienced, in the middle of a protest, armed, was not the best idea in the world.

Actually that being in the middle of a protest "to protect property" was a poor choice -- that's what insurance is for, Kyle.

Insurance generally does not protect rioting.