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Is he guilty or is he not guilty?

Poll ended at Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:09 pm

Guilty of all charges
181
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Guilty of some charges
113
14%
Not guilty - self defense
452
55%
Not guilty - other reason
7
1%
Objection! Mistrial or something
13
2%
I don't know or care...
50
6%
 
Total votes : 816

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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:21 pm

Risottia wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Yeah, that's the one


Seriously.
"Hey! We have a murder trial that's not going the way I want! Let's commit murder!"
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Not counting Kyle (does not meet definition), place has had 3 mass shootings this year
Kenosha County has had three mass shootings this year, which are defined as one with a “minimum of four victims shot, either injured or killed, not including any shooter who may also have been killed or injured in the incident,” according to Gun Violence Archive.

The latest mass shooting prior to Sunday happened Oct. 20, in which three people were killed and two injured in what police believe stemmed from a domestic incident at a home at 610 40th Place.

On April 18, three men were killed and three people injured in a shooting incident at the Somers House tavern on Sheridan Road in Somers.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:24 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Immortan Khan wrote:So now we have a witness outright claiming misconduct from the prosecution team.


Please tell me its prosecution's witness.

Not this one. This one is the defense.

But the defense made a strong showing of prosecutorial misconduct using earlier witnesses in the case, where Grosskreutz, and ONLY Grosskreutz, did not have his phone data downloaded or his interview recorded. The prosecutor suggested the phone deal was due to Marsy's law.

Meanwhile, all other witnesses (including alleged victim McGinnis) had their interviews recorded and phone data taken.
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Postby Risottia » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:31 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Risottia wrote:Seriously.
"Hey! We have a murder trial that's not going the way I want! Let's commit murder!"
:roll:

Not counting Kyle (does not meet definition), place has had 3 mass shootings this year
Kenosha County has had three mass shootings this year, which are defined as one with a “minimum of four victims shot, either injured or killed, not including any shooter who may also have been killed or injured in the incident,” according to Gun Violence Archive.

The latest mass shooting prior to Sunday happened Oct. 20, in which three people were killed and two injured in what police believe stemmed from a domestic incident at a home at 610 40th Place.

On April 18, three men were killed and three people injured in a shooting incident at the Somers House tavern on Sheridan Road in Somers.


For a comparison: my metropolitan area (3,26 Mpeople) has seen 9 murders this year since January. Kenosha has some 100 kpeople, which is LESS than my borough (150 kpeople).
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:53 pm

Risottia wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Not counting Kyle (does not meet definition), place has had 3 mass shootings this year


For a comparison: my metropolitan area (3,26 Mpeople) has seen 9 murders this year since January. Kenosha has some 100 kpeople, which is LESS than my borough (150 kpeople).

100k people plus suburbs, but yeah
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Postby Risottia » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:56 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Risottia wrote:
For a comparison: my metropolitan area (3,26 Mpeople) has seen 9 murders this year since January. Kenosha has some 100 kpeople, which is LESS than my borough (150 kpeople).

100k people plus suburbs, but yeah

Dude, Kenosha is a suburb of Chicago, innit?
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Postby Page » Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:57 pm

I will be very, very surprised if this doesn't end in acquittal.
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Postby Immortan Khan » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:12 pm

Page wrote:I will be very, very surprised if this doesn't end in acquittal.

Anything less would be an injustice.
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Postby Galloism » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:12 pm

Page wrote:I will be very, very surprised if this doesn't end in acquittal.

Honestly I can't believe some of the media takes.

It's like they're watching a completely different trial.
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:19 pm

Galloism wrote:
Page wrote:I will be very, very surprised if this doesn't end in acquittal.

Honestly I can't believe some of the media takes.

It's like they're watching a completely different trial.


They're trying to sow division.

That's what they do.
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Postby Immortan Khan » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:21 pm

Galloism wrote:
Page wrote:I will be very, very surprised if this doesn't end in acquittal.

Honestly I can't believe some of the media takes.

It's like they're watching a completely different trial.

You'd think they'd stop given the almost guaranteed lawsuits on the horizon should he, quite likely, be acquitted.
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Postby Ithalian Empire » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:22 pm

Risottia wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:100k people plus suburbs, but yeah

Dude, Kenosha is a suburb of Chicago, innit?


I think its closer to Milwaukee, but Milwaukee is just Chicago but a smaller and some how worse.
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:32 pm

Risottia wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:100k people plus suburbs, but yeah

Dude, Kenosha is a suburb of Chicago, innit?

No, it's still a 90 minute drive away

Antioch is a 15 minute drive.

Antioch is so close you can pretty much jog across the state border after school and jog back home in time for supper.

Literally 1 mile from the border and is pretty much the Kenosha police dept is more likely to show up to a call than the county sheriff.
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Postby Ithalian Empire » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:52 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Risottia wrote:Dude, Kenosha is a suburb of Chicago, innit?

No, it's still a 90 minute drive away

Antioch is a 15 minute drive.

Antioch is so close you can pretty much jog across the state border after school and jog back home in time for supper.

Literally 1 mile from the border and is pretty much the Kenosha police dept is more likely to show up to a call than the county sheriff.


That entire corner of the state is cursed.
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:54 pm

Ithalian Empire wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:No, it's still a 90 minute drive away

Antioch is a 15 minute drive.

Antioch is so close you can pretty much jog across the state border after school and jog back home in time for supper.

Literally 1 mile from the border and is pretty much the Kenosha police dept is more likely to show up to a call than the county sheriff.


That entire corner of the state is cursed.

Anything on the south end of Lake Michigan is cursed.

And the north shore is haunted.
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Postby Ithalian Empire » Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:22 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Ithalian Empire wrote:
That entire corner of the state is cursed.

Anything on the south end of Lake Michigan is cursed.


I will always thank God that I live in the Northwoods.
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:26 pm

Ithalian Empire wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:Anything on the south end of Lake Michigan is cursed.


I will always thank God that I live in the Northwoods.

[Typical vacation]

"Enjoy your vacation to the Northwoods!"

[Returns 5 seconds later]

"You're back early..."

[Grabs hunting rifle]

"Northwoods haunted"

[goes to leave]

"Where you going?"

[Pause]

"Northwoods haunted."

[Ghost hunting-buddy]
"Always was."
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Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:26 pm

Man, the prosecution acted like a jilted lover against that amateur photo journo.

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Postby Ithalian Empire » Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:32 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Ithalian Empire wrote:
I will always thank God that I live in the Northwoods.

[Typical vacation]

"Enjoy your vacation to the Northwoods!"

[Returns 5 seconds later]

"You're back early..."

[Grabs hunting rifle]

"Northwoods haunted"

[goes to leave]

"Where you going?"

[Pause]

"Northwoods haunted."

[Ghost hunting-buddy]
"Always was."

It really is.
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:33 pm

Ithalian Empire wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:[Typical vacation]

"Enjoy your vacation to the Northwoods!"

[Returns 5 seconds later]

"You're back early..."

[Grabs hunting rifle]

"Northwoods haunted"

[goes to leave]

"Where you going?"

[Pause]

"Northwoods haunted."

[Ghost hunting-buddy]
"Always was."

It really is.

People think we joking, but we aren't.

What happened at deer camp still stays at deer-camp, right?

Why we need an AR-15, because northwoods be floop'n haunted

Edit: Alright, that's enough levity.
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Mokostana wrote:See, Hurty cared not if the mission succeeded or not, as long as it was spectacular trainwreck. Sometimes that was the host Nation firing a SCUD into a hospital to destroy a foreign infection and accidentally sparking a rebellion... or accidentally starting the Mokan Drug War

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Postby Xmara » Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:12 pm

Galloism wrote:
Page wrote:I will be very, very surprised if this doesn't end in acquittal.

Honestly I can't believe some of the media takes.

It's like they're watching a completely different trial.

Just curious, what have their takes been like? I've been too busy to really follow this trial so idk what they're saying,
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Postby Fluvannia » Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:39 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Ithalian Empire wrote:
I will always thank God that I live in the Northwoods.

[Typical vacation]

"Enjoy your vacation to the Northwoods!"

[Returns 5 seconds later]

"You're back early..."

[Grabs hunting rifle]

"Northwoods haunted"

[goes to leave]

"Where you going?"

[Pause]

"Northwoods haunted."

[Ghost hunting-buddy]
"Always was."


And this is why I don't go any farther north than Shawano.
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Postby Ithalian Empire » Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:54 pm

Fluvannia wrote:
Hurtful Thoughts wrote:[Typical vacation]

"Enjoy your vacation to the Northwoods!"

[Returns 5 seconds later]

"You're back early..."

[Grabs hunting rifle]

"Northwoods haunted"

[goes to leave]

"Where you going?"

[Pause]

"Northwoods haunted."

[Ghost hunting-buddy]
"Always was."


And this is why I don't go any farther north than Shawano.

I live a little farther north than Shawano. Its so weird to hear about the Kenosha stuff, to know that it technically happened in your state. Than to look at how honestly nothing has changed in your area over the last two years. Maybe that's why I enjoy living here, I am so isolated from the outside world that it feels like I am looking in from the outside while everything else it falling apart.
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Postby Dreria » Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:09 pm

WHO IS JOSHUA ZIMINSKI
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Postby Galloism » Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:13 pm

Dreria wrote:WHO IS JOSHUA ZIMINSKI

Tall guy. Has a beard that night. Walks around with a pistol in his hand all night.

He fired the first shot as Rittenhouse fled, gathered up a crowd to confront Rittenhouse after shooting Rosenbaum, then incited the crowd to chase Rittenhouse down when he fled the crowd he had gathered.
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