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Is he guilty or is he not guilty?

Poll ended at Mon Nov 01, 2021 7:09 pm

Guilty of all charges
181
22%
Guilty of some charges
113
14%
Not guilty - self defense
452
55%
Not guilty - other reason
7
1%
Objection! Mistrial or something
13
2%
I don't know or care...
50
6%
 
Total votes : 816

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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:15 pm

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Doesn’t Denny’s have a problem with black people?


While I admittedly don't go to Danny's much, last one I was in I was the only white boy in the place
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Postby Albrenia » Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:51 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
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I mean, he would not have been attacked by a crazy asshole had he not gone to the riot at all. Not saying the victim blaming is correct, but a time machine would be able to fix the problem pretty easy.


The inverse is also true, if the crazy assholes hadn't gone to the riot, they wouldn't be there to attack him


That is also true. Rosenbaum should not have been there.

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He's already been to Mar-a-Lago to kiss The Leader's ring. I'm sure a book/film deal is in the works. Why not name a song after him, a few streets, a Metro station or two? Then a navy ship and a mechinized infantry division maybe.

Or for the same effect she could just go to the house of everyone who's ever received the Congressional Gold Medal and piss on their shoes.

Tell me again just how far-fetched a future of armed teen fascists hunting down BIPOC and allies with impunity is.
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Postby Galloism » Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:16 pm

Big Bad Blue wrote:


He's already been to Mar-a-Lago to kiss The Leader's ring. I'm sure a book/film deal is in the works. Why not name a song after him, a few streets, a Metro station or two? Then a navy ship and a mechinized infantry division maybe.

Or for the same effect she could just go to the house of everyone who's ever received the Congressional Gold Medal and piss on their shoes.

Tell me again just how far-fetched a future of armed teen fascists hunting down BIPOC and allies with impunity is.

Pretty far fetched at this point in time, since Rittenhouse does not appear to be a fascist nor did he appear to hunt down anyone.

The congressional gold medal thing is stupid though.
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Postby Big Bad Blue » Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:16 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:They should take a lesson from AARP ( the old people), show your card get a 10% discount at Denny's


Doesn’t Denny’s have a problem with black people?


You mean the restaurant chain that used to be called Sambo's? Nah, course not.
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Postby Immortan Khan » Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:57 pm

Big Bad Blue wrote:


He's already been to Mar-a-Lago to kiss The Leader's ring. I'm sure a book/film deal is in the works. Why not name a song after him, a few streets, a Metro station or two? Then a navy ship and a mechinized infantry division maybe.

Or for the same effect she could just go to the house of everyone who's ever received the Congressional Gold Medal and piss on their shoes.

Tell me again just how far-fetched a future of armed teen fascists hunting down BIPOC and allies with impunity is.

What even is this post
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Nov 25, 2021 1:58 pm

Immortan Khan wrote:
Big Bad Blue wrote:
He's already been to Mar-a-Lago to kiss The Leader's ring. I'm sure a book/film deal is in the works. Why not name a song after him, a few streets, a Metro station or two? Then a navy ship and a mechinized infantry division maybe.

Or for the same effect she could just go to the house of everyone who's ever received the Congressional Gold Medal and piss on their shoes.

Tell me again just how far-fetched a future of armed teen fascists hunting down BIPOC and allies with impunity is.

What even is this post


They're a Poe of a left leaning liberal.
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Postby Immortan Khan » Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:01 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Immortan Khan wrote:What even is this post


They're a Poe of a left leaning liberal.

Is it a sign of the times when we cannot be certain it is a Poe?
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:06 pm

Immortan Khan wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
They're a Poe of a left leaning liberal.

Is it a sign of the times when we cannot be certain it is a Poe?

Unfortunately
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Postby Port Caverton » Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:11 pm

Big Bad Blue wrote:


He's already been to Mar-a-Lago to kiss The Leader's ring. I'm sure a book/film deal is in the works. Why not name a song after him, a few streets, a Metro station or two? Then a navy ship and a mechinized infantry division maybe.

Or for the same effect she could just go to the house of everyone who's ever received the Congressional Gold Medal and piss on their shoes.

Tell me again just how far-fetched a future of armed teen fascists hunting down BIPOC and allies with impunity is.

Nah, tell us the last time you took your meds
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:20 pm

Big Bad Blue wrote:


He's already been to Mar-a-Lago to kiss The Leader's ring. I'm sure a book/film deal is in the works. Why not name a song after him, a few streets, a Metro station or two? Then a navy ship and a mechinized infantry division maybe.

Or for the same effect she could just go to the house of everyone who's ever received the Congressional Gold Medal and piss on their shoes.

Tell me again just how far-fetched a future of armed teen fascists hunting down BIPOC and allies with impunity is.

I just got back from my time traveling machine and I can confirm that this is what happened to the letter. Granted, I was only reading a summary about it on r/GenZedong, but this prediction isn't that far off
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:31 pm

Big Bad Blue wrote:


He's already been to Mar-a-Lago to kiss The Leader's ring. I'm sure a book/film deal is in the works. Why not name a song after him, a few streets, a Metro station or two? Then a navy ship and a mechinized infantry division maybe.

Or for the same effect she could just go to the house of everyone who's ever received the Congressional Gold Medal and piss on their shoes.

Tell me again just how far-fetched a future of armed teen fascists hunting down BIPOC and allies with impunity is.

This response is probably redundant and pointless PA, but someone defending himself from getting his head beaten in with a skateboard amongst other things isn't very comparable to a member of the Nazi Youth hunting 'undesirables' in German streets in the '30s.
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Postby American Legionaries » Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:35 pm

Albrenia wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
The inverse is also true, if the crazy assholes hadn't gone to the riot, they wouldn't be there to attack him


That is also true. Rosenbaum should not have been there.


I think we can safely say that zero people should have gone to the riot.

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Postby Albrenia » Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:37 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
That is also true. Rosenbaum should not have been there.


I think we can safely say that zero people should have gone to the riot.


I mean, I'm all good with people peacefully protesting and the police being there to stop the odd shitlord who decides to turn it into a robbery chance. They don't call that sort of thing a riot though, so your point still stands.

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Postby Arlenton » Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:51 pm

Big Bad Blue wrote:


He's already been to Mar-a-Lago to kiss The Leader's ring. I'm sure a book/film deal is in the works. Why not name a song after him, a few streets, a Metro station or two? Then a navy ship and a mechinized infantry division maybe.

Or for the same effect she could just go to the house of everyone who's ever received the Congressional Gold Medal and piss on their shoes.

Tell me again just how far-fetched a future of armed teen fascists hunting down BIPOC and allies with impunity is.

Lmao based

I can just picture the 18th Republican Guard Armored Infantry Division Kyle Rittenhouse leading the the invasion of Canada in the 2040s.

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Postby Prima Scriptura » Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:55 pm

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It is perfectly valid to agree with the verdict without treating Kyle like a hero.


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Postby American Legionaries » Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:27 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Big Bad Blue wrote:
He's already been to Mar-a-Lago to kiss The Leader's ring. I'm sure a book/film deal is in the works. Why not name a song after him, a few streets, a Metro station or two? Then a navy ship and a mechinized infantry division maybe.

Or for the same effect she could just go to the house of everyone who's ever received the Congressional Gold Medal and piss on their shoes.

Tell me again just how far-fetched a future of armed teen fascists hunting down BIPOC and allies with impunity is.

Lmao based

I can just picture the 18th Republican Guard Armored Infantry Division Kyle Rittenhouse leading the the invasion of Canada in the 2040s.


>Canada

Implying they won't be invading the Portland Commune

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Postby Senkaku » Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:16 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Big Bad Blue wrote:
He's already been to Mar-a-Lago to kiss The Leader's ring. I'm sure a book/film deal is in the works. Why not name a song after him, a few streets, a Metro station or two? Then a navy ship and a mechinized infantry division maybe.

Or for the same effect she could just go to the house of everyone who's ever received the Congressional Gold Medal and piss on their shoes.

Tell me again just how far-fetched a future of armed teen fascists hunting down BIPOC and allies with impunity is.

Lmao based

I can just picture the 18th Republican Guard Armored Infantry Division Kyle Rittenhouse leading the the invasion of Canada in the 2040s.

…you know, that actually sounds disturbingly plausible, what an upsetting thought
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:17 pm



How you can tell that Republicans don't actually care about Rittenhouse: constantly putting him back in the spotlight to infuriate liberals.
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Postby Galloism » Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:52 pm

So here's an interesting thing.

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They started deliberating on 11/16. On the 17th, they decided that he was not guilty on jump kick man and Huber. On the 18th, they decided the same on Grosskreutz. The last holdout was done on the 19th, for Joseph Rosenbaum/Richie McGinnis.

That means that, on the 17th, the jury apparently decided that even if Rittenhouse recklessly killed Joseph Rosenbaum (which was still in doubt), he had the right to self defense against Jump Kick Man and Huber. The next day, they decided the same for Grosskreutz. Apparently even if they were chasing down a reckless homicider (that doesn't sound near as good as murderer, and is no doubt clearly bad English), fuck those guys....?

The very last one was Rosenbaum and McGinnis, where they reached a unanimous verdict on Friday the 19th.

... I totally would have processed those in chronological order, but that's not how they did it. I'm guessing (speculation) that they couldn't reach a unanimous verdict on Rosenbaum/McGinnis to start with, and just tabled it and moved on to the others and see if they could get to a unanimous verdict on those.
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Postby Hurtful Thoughts » Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:12 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
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If some guy hadn't fire a shot on the Lexington Green.....

The British would have confiscated every long gun in every Amory in Massachusetts. We would still be drinking tea and have bad teeth.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:16 pm

Hurtful Thoughts wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:The British would have confiscated every long gun in every Amory in Massachusetts. We would still be drinking tea and have bad teeth.

Not sure if anyone has caught-on that today is Evacuation-Day.

A very old US National holiday since 1781.

Well, guess I should give thanks.

I have, but I work near evacuation plaza
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Postby Haganham » Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:21 pm

Suriyanakhon wrote:


How you can tell that Republicans don't actually care about Rittenhouse: constantly putting him back in the spotlight to infuriate liberals.

Dumb take. Rittenhouse has no future except as a pundit, activist or politician. He can't go to collage or get a job because he's always going to have a target on his back. He will always be in the spotlight.
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Postby Tornado Queendom » Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:23 pm

I'm grateful that Rittenhouse has been found not guilty.
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