Do attacks on Liberal Icons Herald Doom of Democracy?

[Incelastan]

The Founders messed up when they didn't prescribe certain "forbidden" amendments. Some kinds of revisions should never have been allowed, such as woman suffrage.

[Genivaria]

The Founders messed up when they didn't prescribe certain "forbidden" amendments. Some kinds of revisions should never have been allowed, such as woman suffrage.

Grate bait mate.

[The Kingdom of the Three Isles]

Capitalism gives people a chance to succeed and it usually comes with more freedoms rather then communism which only makes sure that everyone equally starved to death while the dictators can have anything they want. Look at all the prime examples of failed communist states Cuba, Venezuela, USSR, and so on and while granted you can have an opinion you have to admit that communism always fails in one way or another

I wish I was still young, optimistic and idealistic like you.

That’s funny, since most socialists in America actually happen to be young.

[The Kingdom of the Three Isles]

The Founders messed up when they didn't prescribe certain "forbidden" amendments. Some kinds of revisions should never have been allowed, such as woman suffrage.

Ok, I’ll have to stop you there pal

[Picairn]

The Founders messed up when they didn't prescribe certain "forbidden" amendments. Some kinds of revisions should never have been allowed, such as woman suffrage.

Cringe.

[Sundiata]

Yeah, I don't like Thomas Jefferson or agree with his ideas. Still, the man was a child-predator and shouldn't be celebrated.

His vice is disgusting, but your ulterior reason should not be ignored. If it angers and repels theocrats like you, more statues should be built.

I don't care about "owning the libs." My goal: removing statues of child-predators.

I don't have an ulterior motive.

[Dreria]

The Founders messed up when they didn't prescribe certain "forbidden" amendments. Some kinds of revisions should never have been allowed, such as woman suffrage.

It’s spelled proscribe

[Eahland]

The Founders messed up when they didn't prescribe certain "forbidden" amendments. Some kinds of revisions should never have been allowed, such as woman suffrage.

Nah. Go out and come back in again, see if you can give us a more convincing opening line.

[Cameroi]

its not about attacks on liberal icons, its about attacks on everything that justifies the existence of any government in any form.

[The Black Forrest]

its not about attacks on liberal icons, its about attacks on everything that justifies the existence of any government in any form.

People being the way they are……are the reasons for the existence of government and the rule of law.

[Dreria]

its not about attacks on liberal icons, its about attacks on everything that justifies the existence of any government in any form.

Wow I wonder why you specifically are so invested in defending thomas jefferson and so offended by criticism of certain of his actions. It must be because you care about the republic so much

[The Kingdom of the Three Isles]

its not about attacks on liberal icons, its about attacks on everything that justifies the existence of any government in any form.

Wow I wonder why you specifically are so invested in defending thomas jefferson and so offended by criticism of certain of his actions. It must be because you care about the republic so much

Hypocrite you guys taking down Jefferson's statues are the ones getting 'so offended by certain of his actions.'

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The Founders messed up when they didn't prescribe certain "forbidden" amendments. Some kinds of revisions should never have been allowed, such as woman suffrage.

Someone took a wrong turn on his way to return of kings.

[Ifreann]

The Founders messed up when they didn't prescribe certain "forbidden" amendments. Some kinds of revisions should never have been allowed, such as woman suffrage.

Grate bait mate.

I r8 8/8

[Torrocca]

If Liberal Democracy is so egotistically fragile that rapey slavey statue man losing his statues causes its doom, then maybe Liberal Democracy has no right to exist.

[Necroghastia]

Wow I wonder why you specifically are so invested in defending thomas jefferson and so offended by criticism of certain of his actions. It must be because you care about the republic so much

Hypocrite you guys taking down Jefferson's statues are the ones getting 'so offended by certain of his actions.'

Yeah, people really are acting like such snowflakes over such small potatoes like rape and slavery.

[Eahland]

The Founders messed up when they didn't prescribe certain "forbidden" amendments. Some kinds of revisions should never have been allowed, such as woman suffrage.

Someone took a wrong turn on his way to return of kings.

Gondor switched from agnatic to absolute primogeniture centuries ago, so it could just as easily have been Return of the Queen.

[Everhall]

Of all the threats currently facing Liberal Democracy... this is the one you focus on? Really? While I personally disagree with the choice to remove the statue of Thomas Jefferson (Its there for his contribution's to this nation's founding in the DoI and as President) I find it hard to see how this issue compared with staggering wealth inequality, political apathy, a political duopoly (in the US), and incompetent leaders - among other things - is of particular importance. Really, it's just a damn distraction when it comes down to it. Leave FF statues alone, acknowledge the good with the bad, honor the victims, screw Confed. Statues. Done.

[Vassenor]

Of all the threats currently facing Liberal Democracy... this is the one you focus on? Really? While I personally disagree with the choice to remove the statue of Thomas Jefferson (Its there for his contribution's to this nation's founding in the DoI and as President) I find it hard to see how this issue compared with staggering wealth inequality, political apathy, a political duopoly (in the US), and incompetent leaders - among other things - is of particular importance. Really, it's just a damn distraction when it comes down to it. Leave FF statues alone, acknowledge the good with the bad, honor the victims, screw Confed. Statues. Done.

Because the cons have to lean on Culture War shit like this because they've got no real platform any more.

[Everhall]

Of all the threats currently facing Liberal Democracy... this is the one you focus on? Really? While I personally disagree with the choice to remove the statue of Thomas Jefferson (Its there for his contribution's to this nation's founding in the DoI and as President) I find it hard to see how this issue compared with staggering wealth inequality, political apathy, a political duopoly (in the US), and incompetent leaders - among other things - is of particular importance. Really, it's just a damn distraction when it comes down to it. Leave FF statues alone, acknowledge the good with the bad, honor the victims, screw Confed. Statues. Done.

Because the cons have to lean on Culture War shit like this because they've got no real platform any more.

Dems do them plenty of favors on that front. Frankly, the obsession in our political discourse with Culture War is a damn cancer to our civic unity. Focus on governing not cultural points ya fucks!

Edit: Maybe if we had an actually functioning political system the national debt wouldn't be 27 trillion dollars and counting as we continually fail to solve America's gripping socio-economic problem!

[The Black Forrest]

Because the cons have to lean on Culture War shit like this because they've got no real platform any more.

Dems do them plenty of favors on that front. Frankly, the obsession in our political discourse with Culture War is a damn cancer to our civic unity. Focus on governing not cultural points ya fucks!

Hmmm? Actually; I think the big problem for them was the fact they rather timid in campaigning the culture war.

[Jabberwocky]

Doom of Democracy....that's funny! wipes tears from eyes
Right after that big meteor hits.

[New Tryphalia]

Of all the threats currently facing Liberal Democracy... this is the one you focus on? Really? While I personally disagree with the choice to remove the statue of Thomas Jefferson (Its there for his contribution's to this nation's founding in the DoI and as President) I find it hard to see how this issue compared with staggering wealth inequality, political apathy, a political duopoly (in the US), and incompetent leaders - among other things - is of particular importance. Really, it's just a damn distraction when it comes down to it. Leave FF statues alone, acknowledge the good with the bad, honor the victims, screw Confed. Statues. Done.

Because the cons have to lean on Culture War shit like this because they've got no real platform any more.

Be honest. Both parties do that. Neither has an economic populist agenda of the sort that would unite the multi-racial working class behind them. They both have to pit the black and white workers against each other, from opposite sides, in order to distract voters from the failed state that is America thanks to both of them. If the people really knew how much their public servants served someone else, something other than the public, they'd all be hanged or shot on Pennsylvania Avenue by now.

[Comfed]

Wait I’m confused, why are statues of people dead for centuries vital to the existence of democracy?

[New Tryphalia]

Wait I’m confused, why are statues of people dead for centuries vital to the existence of democracy?

No more than statues of Lenin are necessary for Communism, but I must ridicule the performative outrage of both sides on these kinds of red herring cultural war issues.