Do attacks on Liberal Icons Herald Doom of Democracy?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

In an age where capitalism and the upper class is driving us straight over the edge of a climate catastrophe... I'm not sure we should be celebrating a civil war caused by the upper class rebelling against their dues to pay taxes to be quite honest.

[Vassenor]

Also if Trump wasn’t a puppet of the media why was just about every one of his morning Twitter rants about something that was talked about on Fox News five minutes prior?

[The Kingdom of the Three Isles]

Also if Trump wasn’t a puppet of the media why was just about every one of his morning Twitter rants about something that was talked about on Fox News five minutes prior?

LOL yes

[Federal Sol]

But what do you make of this, NationStates? How do you perceive recent character assassinations of Jefferson, Washington, Lincoln or Churchill? Do you agree that leftists harbour ulterior motives when assailing these men's reputation?

Well of course this heralds the doom of democracy

And finally too, I'm tired of this sham. Literally nothing's working like it was supposed too and finally people are noticing. I respect these great men, I really do, but frankly the system they fought for is dying, decaying and I think it's about time it rot so that people finally noticed and stopped taking it for granted

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

But what do you make of this, NationStates? How do you perceive recent character assassinations of Jefferson, Washington, Lincoln or Churchill? Do you agree that leftists harbour ulterior motives when assailing these men's reputation?

Well of course this heralds the doom of democracy

And not the impending civilisational collapse from climate change y'know... no no, the real threat to the current liberal-democratic order is when people decide to dump statues of slavers into the Bristol harbour.
This must be a horrific crime against culture, history and tradition as well smh?

[Kerwa]

Such as...?

Like if we're going for Americans who actually deserve statues and represent important civic virtues, why not John Brown, Norman Borlaug, Harriet Tubman or Mother Jones? There are literally so many other people who did so much more good with their lives than centuries old waffling slave owners. The fact that we idolize people like Jefferson or even murderous evil people like Jackson over them is entirely down to cargo cultists like the OP.

Oh please bad things can be said of all those people. More importantly they are all boring and ugly and thus have no place in the public square.(Borlaug’s name alone ought to disqualify him).

One of the real problems with the US is how absolutely ugly it’s cities are. They are filled with eyesores and clearly designed by people who have no sense of aesthetics whatsoever; there is no need to add to this by adding ugly statues of sententious bores. It’s obvious then, that statues ought to be chosen primarily based on their beauty and not because of the whims of some college professor’s beardywierdy moralizing. Think Rome.

Also stop naming things after elected politicians.

[The Military State of the Galapagos]

Also if Trump wasn’t a puppet of the media why was just about every one of his morning Twitter rants about something that was talked about on Fox News five minutes prior?

At least Trump is not a boot licking communist like that scum Biden

[Vassenor]

Also if Trump wasn’t a puppet of the media why was just about every one of his morning Twitter rants about something that was talked about on Fox News five minutes prior?

At least Trump is not a boot licking communist like that scum Biden

You wouldn’t know communism if it jumped out of a tree and hit you on the head with a hammer.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Also if Trump wasn’t a puppet of the media why was just about every one of his morning Twitter rants about something that was talked about on Fox News five minutes prior?

At least Trump is not a boot licking communist like that scum Biden

I fucking wish Biden was an actual communist and not just yet another encrusted capitalist version of Leonid Brezhnev.

[The Military State of the Galapagos]

At least Trump is not a boot licking communist like that scum Biden

I fucking wish Biden was an actual communist and not just yet another encrusted capitalist version of Leonid Brezhnev.

Capitalism gives people a chance to succeed and it usually comes with more freedoms rather then communism which only makes sure that everyone equally starved to death while the dictators can have anything they want. Look at all the prime examples of failed communist states Cuba, Venezuela, USSR, and so on and while granted you can have an opinion you have to admit that communism always fails in one way or another

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I fucking wish Biden was an actual communist and not just yet another encrusted capitalist version of Leonid Brezhnev.

Capitalism gives people a chance to succeed and it usually comes with more freedoms rather then communism which only makes sure that everyone equally starved to death while the dictators can have anything they want. Look at all the prime examples of failed communist states Cuba, Venezuela, USSR, and so on and while granted you can have an opinion you have to admit that communism always fails in one way or another

I wish I was still young, optimistic and idealistic like you.

[Vassenor]

I fucking wish Biden was an actual communist and not just yet another encrusted capitalist version of Leonid Brezhnev.

Capitalism gives people a chance to succeed and it usually comes with more freedoms rather then communism which only makes sure that everyone equally starved to death while the dictators can have anything they want. Look at all the prime examples of failed communist states Cuba, Venezuela, USSR, and so on and while granted you can have an opinion you have to admit that communism always fails in one way or another

So how does any of that make Biden a communist?

[Haganham]

Literally nothing's working like it was supposed too and finally people are noticing. I respect these great men, I really do, but frankly the system they fought for is dying, decaying and I think it's about time it rot so that people finally noticed and stopped taking it for granted

"I abandoned my Ford Focus and bought a Tesla Model S. Why does my car keep breaking down and why is it so expensive? I thought the focus was supposed to be a reliable cheap car."

[The Reformed American Republic]

Not to mention it’s deep history with fascism.

Yeah, feel free to hold the church accountable. Let's do the same of historical figures, especially rapists like Thomas Jefferson.

let's be honest, you're just pissed that they defied dogma such as yours.

[Sundiata]

Yeah, feel free to hold the church accountable. Let's do the same of historical figures, especially rapists like Thomas Jefferson.

let's be honest, you're just pissed that they defied dogma such as yours.

Yeah, I don't like Thomas Jefferson or agree with his ideas. Still, the man was a child-predator and shouldn't be celebrated.

[The Reformed American Republic]

let's be honest, you're just pissed that they defied dogma such as yours.

Yeah, I don't like Thomas Jefferson or agree with his ideas. Still, the man was a child-predator and shouldn't be celebrated.

His vice is disgusting, but your ulterior reason should not be ignored. If it angers and repels theocrats like you, more statues should be built.

[Picairn]

At least Trump is not a boot licking communist like that scum Biden

Biden, the same guy who declared communism a universally failed system? https://www.cbs58.com/news/biden-says-c ... led-system

[Theodores Tomfooleries]

Joe Biden.... Joe Biden... Joooooe biden.
Can we all just admit that we just elected him because he wasn't Trump? He's fallen back on so many of his promises, but hey! At least he's not Trump

[Vassenor]

Joe Biden.... Joe Biden... Joooooe biden.
Can we all just admit that we just elected him because he wasn't Trump? He's fallen back on so many of his promises, but hey! At least he's not Trump

Remember, it’s his personal fault the GOP is being unreasonable and the Dems in congress fold like a wet paper towel.

[Theodores Tomfooleries]

Joe Biden.... Joe Biden... Joooooe biden.
Can we all just admit that we just elected him because he wasn't Trump? He's fallen back on so many of his promises, but hey! At least he's not Trump

Remember, it’s his personal fault the GOP is being unreasonable and the Dems in congress fold like a wet paper towel.

American politics are just so pathetic. The 2020 election was really a roller coaster and was more interesting than "pokemon go to the polls" and "build a wall", but at its core, Joe Biden and Donald Trump were just, god. They were both old men who weren't cool at all and the entire election was basically "Vote Biden, because Trump sucked".
One positive thing I could say about Trump was that his presidency was quite exciting, because almost every other day (or at most, week) Trump was getting himself into some form of shenanigans. "Oh, what did Trump do this time? Time to spin the wheel! Did he tweet something controversial? Did he call the election rigged?". Meanwhile with Biden, I haven't thought about him until just now, because he's so quiet.

[Kerwa]

I think the Washington Monument should be taken down and replaced with a statue of Darth Vader chopping off Luke’s hand. The new statue should be of at least equal height to the monument of course. People would actually want to see that.

[Theodores Tomfooleries]

Will the lightsabers have cool LED lights that flash up in a lightshow at night?

[Kerwa]

Will the lightsabers have cool LED lights that flash up in a lightshow at night?

Nope. They will have actual lightsabers.

[Uiiop]

Joe Biden.... Joe Biden... Joooooe biden.
Can we all just admit that we just elected him because he wasn't Trump? He's fallen back on so many of his promises, but hey! At least he's not Trump

Remember, it’s his personal fault the GOP is being unreasonable and the Dems in congress fold like a wet paper towel.

Given he made promises like they wouldn't and acted like everyone would work with him...Yeah i would say he gets part of the blame. He was there for 8 years...come on man.

[FNU]

Honestly, I don't celebrate Jefferson for his accomplishments, but I don't despise him for his sins. As far as I'm concerned he's a dead man with plenty of representation in History Books, and a good mac and cheese recipe.