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Postby Ifreann » Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:41 pm

Elden Ring should have something like a quest log.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:52 pm

Port Caverton wrote:The US should give some F R E E D O M to Belarus
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Postby State of Imperial Russia » Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:55 pm

Port Caverton wrote:The US should give some F R E E D O M to Belarus


As a Belarusian, I don't want to die at the hands of one of your merciless goons. Don't need another situation resembling the one in Mukaradeeb, do you?
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Postby Port Caverton » Sun Apr 24, 2022 4:58 pm

State of Imperial Russia wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:The US should give some F R E E D O M to Belarus


As a Belarusian, I don't want to die at the hands of one of your merciless goons. Don't need another situation resembling the one in Mukaradeeb, do you?

Caring for other people is for libs. Plus is not like the the gov cares either.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:02 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
State of Imperial Russia wrote:
As a Belarusian, I don't want to die at the hands of one of your merciless goons. Don't need another situation resembling the one in Mukaradeeb, do you?

Caring for other people is for libs. Plus is not like the the gov cares either.


Though isn’t this what Russia is doing Ukraine “liberating it”
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Postby Port Caverton » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:05 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Caring for other people is for libs. Plus is not like the the gov cares either.


Though isn’t this what Russia is doing Ukraine “liberating it”

Consider:
Port Caverton wrote:Also hypocrisy and double standards in geopolitics are a great thing
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:12 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Though isn’t this what Russia is doing Ukraine “liberating it”

Consider:
Port Caverton wrote:Also hypocrisy and double standards in geopolitics are a great thing


Okay. But there’s a difference between actually liberating a country and using liberation as an excuse to colonize a country.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:17 pm

State of Imperial Russia wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:The US should give some F R E E D O M to Belarus


As a Belarusian, I don't want to die at the hands of one of your merciless goons. Don't need another situation resembling the one in Mukaradeeb, do you?

To be honest, at this point in time, I wouldn't mind turning Minsk and Moscow into Mariupol.

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Postby Port Caverton » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:17 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Consider:


Okay. But there’s a difference between actually liberating a country and using liberation as an excuse to colonize a country.

Tbf Belarus would be great for the West since Kaliningrad will be far behind a country with a pro-US and hopefully democratic government + Russia would lose it's biggest ally in Europe.
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Postby State of Imperial Russia » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:18 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Okay. But there’s a difference between actually liberating a country and using liberation as an excuse to colonize a country.

Tbf Belarus would be great for the West since Kaliningrad will be far behind a country with a pro-US and hopefully democratic government + Russia would lose it's biggest ally in Europe.


If its good for the west, its bad for ninety percent of the world. I don't want my government to be run by puppets like most of Europe is.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:20 pm

State of Imperial Russia wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Tbf Belarus would be great for the West since Kaliningrad will be far behind a country with a pro-US and hopefully democratic government + Russia would lose it's biggest ally in Europe.


If its good for the west, its bad for ninety percent of the world. I don't want my government to be run by puppets like most of Europe is.


Hate to break it to you friend but your government is going to be run by puppets regardless. It's just a matter of who they serve.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:22 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Okay. But there’s a difference between actually liberating a country and using liberation as an excuse to colonize a country.

Tbf Belarus would be great for the West since Kaliningrad will be far behind a country with a pro-US and hopefully democratic government + Russia would lose it's biggest ally in Europe.


Why not prop up a Democratic Revolution?
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Postby Port Caverton » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:24 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Tbf Belarus would be great for the West since Kaliningrad will be far behind a country with a pro-US and hopefully democratic government + Russia would lose it's biggest ally in Europe.


Why not prop up a Democratic Revolution?

The Belarussian government is too authoritarian for that kind of thing to happen.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:26 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Why not prop up a Democratic Revolution?

The Belarussian government is too authoritarian for that kind of thing to happen.


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Postby Rostavykhan » Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:39 pm

Ifreann wrote:Elden Ring should have something like a quest log.


Fromsoft game difficulty was just a meme that From bought into and unironically became obsessed with, to the detriment of their own game. Their "Le hecking prepare to die, reddit" philosophy led to them constantly pushing to up the ante with each new game, despite barely doing anything to update their 10+ year old engine - hence the reliance on delayed attacks, input reading, and spontaneous attack combo chaining/cancelling that many enemies abuse, and the much faster pace of combat despite players still having Dark Souls movement.

Bloodborne is still the best Fromsoft "Souls" game.

This isn't to say that I don't like Elden Ring.

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Postby Kowani » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:18 pm

a very stupid thing progressives do is assume that enacting a bunch of (good!) progressive economic policies will result in democratic dominance
full employment/empowered working class/welfare state is good, but there's a lot of historical evidence that this would not necessarily be good for the Democratic Party
more economically secure people can (and often will) vote culture instead of pocketbooks, and that’s good for Republicans (at least given the biases of our electoral system)
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Postby Umeria » Sun Apr 24, 2022 9:54 pm

Kowani wrote:a very stupid thing progressives do is assume that enacting a bunch of (good!) progressive economic policies will result in democratic dominance
full employment/empowered working class/welfare state is good, but there's a lot of historical evidence that this would not necessarily be good for the Democratic Party
more economically secure people can (and often will) vote culture instead of pocketbooks, and that’s good for Republicans (at least given the biases of our electoral system)

I would like to see this historical evidence.

Because I am hovering over the release button for my "interpreting real-life events by abstracting everything into statistics is never a good idea" hot take.
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Postby Kowani » Sun Apr 24, 2022 11:58 pm

Umeria wrote:
Kowani wrote:a very stupid thing progressives do is assume that enacting a bunch of (good!) progressive economic policies will result in democratic dominance
full employment/empowered working class/welfare state is good, but there's a lot of historical evidence that this would not necessarily be good for the Democratic Party
more economically secure people can (and often will) vote culture instead of pocketbooks, and that’s good for Republicans (at least given the biases of our electoral system)

I would like to see this historical evidence.

This is the whole point of the post-materialism thesis - as people and countries get richer they go up the maslow hierarchy of needs and start to care more about self-expression of values rather than their material economic conditions. This is important because non-college educated people materially benefit from leftist policy but do not share the left's cultural values, which is why non-college educated people trend right as countries get richer/more educated. It's not a coincidence that Portugal is the last holdout! From an event study perspective I think this really proves the mechanism-An underrated (but very large) driver of education polarization is that all the voters who remembered the Great Depression have died! Across the western world, in the postwar era, voter cohorts born before the Great Depression vote more in line with their views on economic views while voter cohorts born after it vote more in line with their views on cultural issues. In the US, you can see this in places like Texas' Hill Country Counties (and as a microcosm of what happened across the Southwest in general)- the New Deal made them prosperous, and a generation later, prosperity made them Republican.

Because I am hovering over the release button for my "interpreting real-life events by abstracting everything into statistics is never a good idea" hot take.
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Postby Chan Island » Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:09 am

Kowani wrote:
Umeria wrote:I would like to see this historical evidence.

This is the whole point of the post-materialism thesis - as people and countries get richer they go up the maslow hierarchy of needs and start to care more about self-expression of values rather than their material economic conditions. This is important because non-college educated people materially benefit from leftist policy but do not share the left's cultural values, which is why non-college educated people trend right as countries get richer/more educated. It's not a coincidence that Portugal is the last holdout! From an event study perspective I think this really proves the mechanism-An underrated (but very large) driver of education polarization is that all the voters who remembered the Great Depression have died! Across the western world, in the postwar era, voter cohorts born before the Great Depression vote more in line with their views on economic views while voter cohorts born after it vote more in line with their views on cultural issues. In the US, you can see this in places like Texas' Hill Country Counties (and as a microcosm of what happened across the Southwest in general)- the New Deal made them prosperous, and a generation later, prosperity made them Republican.

Because I am hovering over the release button for my "interpreting real-life events by abstracting everything into statistics is never a good idea" hot take.
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One nitpick though;

That is still a good thing. If peoples material well being and economic status are so secure that they do not trouble them in elections, then it is already mission accomplished. It is perfectly natural for people's priorities to change as conditions change too.

Generally though I agree. It's not a coincidence that communists only got anywhere in very poor, extremely oppressive societies.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:01 am

Chan Island wrote:
Kowani wrote:This is the whole point of the post-materialism thesis - as people and countries get richer they go up the maslow hierarchy of needs and start to care more about self-expression of values rather than their material economic conditions. This is important because non-college educated people materially benefit from leftist policy but do not share the left's cultural values, which is why non-college educated people trend right as countries get richer/more educated. It's not a coincidence that Portugal is the last holdout! From an event study perspective I think this really proves the mechanism-An underrated (but very large) driver of education polarization is that all the voters who remembered the Great Depression have died! Across the western world, in the postwar era, voter cohorts born before the Great Depression vote more in line with their views on economic views while voter cohorts born after it vote more in line with their views on cultural issues. In the US, you can see this in places like Texas' Hill Country Counties (and as a microcosm of what happened across the Southwest in general)- the New Deal made them prosperous, and a generation later, prosperity made them Republican.
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One nitpick though;

That is still a good thing. If peoples material well being and economic status are so secure that they do not trouble them in elections, then it is already mission accomplished. It is perfectly natural for people's priorities to change as conditions change too.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:07 am

Rostavykhan wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Elden Ring should have something like a quest log.


Fromsoft game difficulty was just a meme that From bought into and unironically became obsessed with, to the detriment of their own game. Their "Le hecking prepare to die, reddit" philosophy led to them constantly pushing to up the ante with each new game, despite barely doing anything to update their 10+ year old engine - hence the reliance on delayed attacks, input reading, and spontaneous attack combo chaining/cancelling that many enemies abuse, and the much faster pace of combat despite players still having Dark Souls movement.

Bloodborne is still the best Fromsoft "Souls" game.

This isn't to say that I don't like Elden Ring.

I mean, I'm on my third playthrough, the game is Good™, but it would be nice if fewer quests required looking up the steps online.
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I don't know if this is a hot take by NS standards, but it definately is by the standards of my sports fanatic family. Sports are boring. I mean, where's the entertainment in watching a bunch of strangers moving a ball around? And also, sports fans take sports way too seriously. Why would you cry when one group of strangers inconsequentially moves a ball around in a superior manner to the other group of strangers? Even letting that affect your mood is taking things too far. And it's as if there's something wrong with you if you don't like sports. No there isn't. I mean, don't get me wrong, I have nothing against sports fans, my family are amongst the most passionate in existence, but don't criticise people who don't like sports. Everyone has different hobbies, and there's nothing wrong with people who aren't entertained by watching strangers move a ball around. And don't get me started on "we won". No you didn't. They won. They did. The group of strangers won, not you. Your only involvment in the matter was sitting on your arse criticising (as if you're some kind of professional) throughout the entire event that they won. How come it's always "we" when they won and "they" when they lost. And that's before we even consider the crowds and the noise, neither of which I am particularly partisan towards
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Postby Forbidden Territories » Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:08 am

Australian rePublic wrote:I don't know if this is a hot take by NS standards, but it definately is by the standards of my sports fanatic family. Sports are boring. I mean, where's the entertainment in watching a bunch of strangers moving a ball around? And also, sports fans take sports way too seriously. Why would you cry when one group of strangers inconsequentially moves a ball around in a superior manner to the other group of strangers? Even letting that affect your mood is taking things too far. And it's as if there's something wrong with you if you don't like sports. No there isn't. I mean, don't get me wrong, I have nothing against sports fans, my family are amongst the most passionate in existence, but don't criticise people who don't like sports. Everyone has different hobbies, and there's nothing wrong with people who aren't entertained by watching strangers move a ball around. And don't get me started on "we won". No you didn't. They won. They did. The group of strangers won, not you. Your only involvment in the matter was sitting on your arse criticising (as if you're some kind of professional) throughout the entire event that they won. How come it's always "we" when they won and "they" when they lost. And that's before we even consider the crowds and the noise, neither of which I am particularly partisan towards


There are other sports excluding football which imo are more fast paced, and exciting if you prefer those attributes.

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Postby Malaiya Union » Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:44 am

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Postby Imperial States of Duotona » Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:06 am

Australian rePublic wrote:I don't know if this is a hot take by NS standards, but it definately is by the standards of my sports fanatic family. Sports are boring. I mean, where's the entertainment in watching a bunch of strangers moving a ball around? And also, sports fans take sports way too seriously. Why would you cry when one group of strangers inconsequentially moves a ball around in a superior manner to the other group of strangers? Even letting that affect your mood is taking things too far. And it's as if there's something wrong with you if you don't like sports. No there isn't. I mean, don't get me wrong, I have nothing against sports fans, my family are amongst the most passionate in existence, but don't criticise people who don't like sports. Everyone has different hobbies, and there's nothing wrong with people who aren't entertained by watching strangers move a ball around. And don't get me started on "we won". No you didn't. They won. They did. The group of strangers won, not you. Your only involvment in the matter was sitting on your arse criticising (as if you're some kind of professional) throughout the entire event that they won. How come it's always "we" when they won and "they" when they lost. And that's before we even consider the crowds and the noise, neither of which I am particularly partisan towards

It's very easy to describe a sport as boring. For example, you could very easily describe my favourite sport (Formula 1) as "people driving in circles", and I've heard it plenty of times. However, I believe sport follows the philosophy of "the more you know and understand the sport, the more interesting it seems". I doubt you go out of your way to watch football/soccer (since that's clearly what you're describing) but I assume it would be even slightly more interesting if you understood how the sport worked better and the culture surrounding it.

Besides, given your nation, I assume you're Australian. Football in Australia is not nearly as large or well supported as places such as Europe and South America.
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