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Postby Free Ravensburg » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:14 am

Malaiya Union wrote:There is no socio-economic class more publicly utterly despicable and openly parasitic to society than car dealership owners.

Because monopoly, yes
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Postby Page » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:21 am

Port Caverton wrote:Need for speed Most Wanted (2005) has less replayability than Payback


I disagree though maybe it's just my teen nostalgia talking. Most Wanted is super replayable, not so much in terms of campaign but just by starting the most epic police chase you possibly can, dragging it out for hours, and seeing if you can get away. Which I did while blasting Bullet for my Valentine at an ear damaging volume.

None of the newer gen games can recapture the magic of Most Wanted and Underground 2 (and to this day I've yet to see anything close to the customization possibilities of Underground 2)
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Postby Vikanias » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:24 am

Malaiya Union wrote:There is no socio-economic class more publicly utterly despicable and openly parasitic to society than car dealership owners.


Fuck car insurance too, literal parasites.
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Postby El Lazaro » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:25 am

Malaiya Union wrote:There is no socio-economic class more publicly utterly despicable and openly parasitic to society than car dealership owners.

Unlike political canvassers and at least two wacko sects that I can name off the top of my head, they won’t come to your doorstep to bother you. They could be worse.

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Postby Imperial States of Duotona » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:28 am

Port Caverton wrote:Need for speed Most Wanted (2005) has less replayability than Payback

Oh hey, one about something I'm interested in. No.

I haven't played MW2005 myself, but I have played Payback and watched people play MW. Payback was incredibly boring, and the only enjoyment I got out of it outside of the main story was ploughing Jake Paul into a wall. There was just something more enjoyable about Most Wanted that I couldn't really explain, but I think it might do with the police chases. In Most Wanted, you feel under threat by the police: in Payback they're sorta... there I guess (something which was improved on a lot by Heat).
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Postby Farnhamia » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:51 am

Ereria wrote:My hot take: For all the rhetoric coming from some individuals in Europe about being the master race, I believe europeans are the least genetically and culturally pleasing continent in the world. I just think if there is a master race at all, it isn't white people, and furthermore they are towards at the bottom of the pole. They only have a good mind for violence and have been able to use this to dominate other countries in the past and make themselves rich and educated, hence why they seem like more advanced than rest of the world. However, if every country was on equal footing education wise, I believe europe would have been left behind long ago.

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Postby HISPIDA » Wed Apr 20, 2022 12:30 pm

Haganham wrote:
Niarj wrote:That doesn't mean it isn't imperialist, it just means they don't like other imperialist nations, which is actually imperialistic.

Imperialistic=/=imperialism key difference being that the united state's interest in other nations is an interest in their independence, not in a desire to rule over them and extract their resources; because, again, even if the United states wished to rule over, say, Korea, it can't. Doing so would require significantly more resources then could ever be extracted from the nation as a subject. As such the US is stuck simply preventing rivals who *could* conquer it from doing so, so as to retain access to Korean markets through trade. Thus, it is an obligate anti-imperialist.

again: iraq. both wars were explicitly wars to exert control over a smaller nation for better access to minerals (see: oil)
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Postby Port Caverton » Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:05 pm

Imperial States of Duotona wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Need for speed Most Wanted (2005) has less replayability than Payback

Oh hey, one about something I'm interested in. No.

I haven't played MW2005 myself, but I have played Payback and watched people play MW. Payback was incredibly boring, and the only enjoyment I got out of it outside of the main story was ploughing Jake Paul into a wall. There was just something more enjoyable about Most Wanted that I couldn't really explain, but I think it might do with the police chases. In Most Wanted, you feel under threat by the police: in Payback they're sorta... there I guess (something which was improved on a lot by Heat).

Don't get me wrong, the police chases in MW are the best in the series, while the ones in payback are the worst by far. But the races and the campaing in MW, especially at the start, are very slow imo which is why I have played Payback for twice as long as the other game.
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Postby Port Caverton » Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:09 pm

Page wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Need for speed Most Wanted (2005) has less replayability than Payback


I disagree though maybe it's just my teen nostalgia talking. Most Wanted is super replayable, not so much in terms of campaign but just by starting the most epic police chase you possibly can, dragging it out for hours, and seeing if you can get away. Which I did while blasting Bullet for my Valentine at an ear damaging volume.

None of the newer gen games can recapture the magic of Most Wanted and Underground 2 (and to this day I've yet to see anything close to the customization possibilities of Underground 2)

Having absurdly long police chases is really fun but it gets boring after driving the map in my lambo for 69 times while sgt. Cross screeches in the radio.
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Postby Port Caverton » Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:12 pm

Nova Catania wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Need for speed Most Wanted (2005) has less replayability than Payback

Since I'm of the younger generation, I find the visuals and graphics disturbingly terrible in any pre-2010 NFS games. I don't see why they're considered masterpieces.

Most wanted has a horrendous yellow sky, and the story isn't really replayable but the police chases and those challenge series missions in which you drive npc vehicles are definitely worth it.

Also Payback has worse graphics than Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit (2010).
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Postby Juristonia » Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:38 pm

Nova Catania wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Need for speed Most Wanted (2005) has less replayability than Payback

Since I'm of the younger generation, I find the visuals and graphics disturbingly terrible in any pre-2010 NFS games. I don't see why they're considered masterpieces.

There's more to a good game than pretty graphics.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:40 pm

Juristonia wrote:
Nova Catania wrote:Since I'm of the younger generation, I find the visuals and graphics disturbingly terrible in any pre-2010 NFS games. I don't see why they're considered masterpieces.

There's more to a good game than pretty graphics.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:54 pm

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Ethel mermania wrote:
Juristonia wrote:There's more to a good game than pretty graphics.

Pick up axe.


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Postby Esternial » Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:54 pm

Juristonia wrote:
Nova Catania wrote:Since I'm of the younger generation, I find the visuals and graphics disturbingly terrible in any pre-2010 NFS games. I don't see why they're considered masterpieces.

There's more to a good game than pretty graphics.

The first Rollercoaster Tycoon is still the best one, which I found out is mostly written in assembly.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:56 pm

Esternial wrote:
Juristonia wrote:There's more to a good game than pretty graphics.

The first Rollercoaster Tycoon is still the best one, which I found out is mostly written in assembly.


Well, rollercoasters do get assembled, so that makes sense.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:02 pm

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The axe does not like your advances and declines.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:04 pm

Esternial wrote:
Juristonia wrote:There's more to a good game than pretty graphics.

The first Rollercoaster Tycoon is still the best one, which I found out is mostly written in assembly.

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Postby Eahland » Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:10 pm

Malaiya Union wrote:There is no socio-economic class more publicly utterly despicable and openly parasitic to society than car dealership owners.

Insurance agencies.
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Postby Kernen » Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:17 pm

Eahland wrote:
Malaiya Union wrote:There is no socio-economic class more publicly utterly despicable and openly parasitic to society than car dealership owners.

Insurance agencies.

True story. I've watched them deny life-saving treatments because they were expensive. Hell, I helped them do it. Amoral clients are the easiest.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:38 pm

Malaiya Union wrote:There is no socio-economic class more publicly utterly despicable and openly parasitic to society than car dealership owners.


Car dealerships used to be a gauranteed way for smalltown people with no college degree to vault themselves into the upper middle class. A good salesman could pull in over $300k a year and managers were often millionaires. However, the dealership model is dying and will likely not exist in 20 years. It is being replaced by online car shopping, buying directly from manufacturers / retailers (how Tesla operates), and ridesharing / leasing models.

The parasitism that car dealers were known for came from morons with poor credit scores trying to finance cars that cost more than their monthly rent. Instead now they'll just literally rent "share" cars.
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Postby Niarj » Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:55 pm

Haganham wrote:
Niarj wrote:That doesn't mean it isn't imperialist, it just means they don't like other imperialist nations, which is actually imperialistic.

Imperialistic=/=imperialism key difference being that the united state's interest in other nations is an interest in their independence, not in a desire to rule over them and extract their resources; because, again, even if the United states wished to rule over, say, Korea, it can't. Doing so would require significantly more resources then could ever be extracted from the nation as a subject. As such the US is stuck simply preventing rivals who *could* conquer it from doing so, so as to retain access to Korean markets through trade. Thus, it is an obligate anti-imperialist.


The US's definition of "independence" and "freedom" is incredibly stupid and encourages a kooky herd mentality that desires to establish mini-Americas and continue the development of the West; the US loves imperialism, it just calls it freedom. Also, just because you believe keeping a nation in control is worth less than the nation could contribute to the economy, the US's method of imperialism does not require direct military power after their propaganda seeps into the nation and they put one of their lapdops into power. Not to mention that the US constantly does things that is worth less than the gain, as evidenced by their methods of manufacturing the penny. They aren't an obligate anti-onecentist just because their penny costs more to make than it is worth, and the sample applies to their imperialism.
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Postby Hidrandia » Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:09 pm

The wii motion control (for some games) was really good, and made them more memorable.
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Postby Free Ravensburg » Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:23 pm

Hidrandia wrote:The wii motion control (for some games) was really good, and made them more memorable.

How is this a hot take?
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Postby Necroghastia » Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:35 pm

Free Ravensburg wrote:
Hidrandia wrote:The wii motion control (for some games) was really good, and made them more memorable.

How is this a hot take?

How many games nowadays have motion control?
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Postby State of Imperial Russia » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:32 pm

The dead star at the center of the Red Spider Nebula isn't as hot as this take:

All international alliances must cease to exist, or there will be yet another threat of another world war. The Triple Entente and the Triple Alliance had done it in the Great War, and the Axis and Allies did in the Second World War, and now, with the relationship between Commonwealth of Independent States and the European Union, it seems very likely that the war in Ukraine won't be the end of this conflict.

If countries continue to supply the Ukrainians, a larger war will break out, and millions more will die. All because of what? To make yourself seem more righteous? To give your country the little ego boost that it so desperately craves? Let the Ukrainians and Russians fight without foreign aid, and let them settle the conflict themselves. Whoever wins, wins, and that's the end of it.
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