Hot Takes Discussion

[Prima Scriptura]

Why shouldn’t there be non-partisan elected officials? Do you really want school board members to be partisan elected officials. How about the park board?

I mean I don’t think school boards should exist at all but if they absolutely must then they should be appointed
Failing that, they should be partisan, yes

Why shouldn’t school boards exist? How will school districts be governed?

[Dollystana]

I mean I don’t think school boards should exist at all but if they absolutely must then they should be appointed
Failing that, they should be partisan, yes

Why shouldn’t school boards exist? How will school districts be governed?

School is government indoctrination!!1!

[Free Algerstonia]

hot take: the mayan calendar was completely misinterpreted by the doomsday preppers. the end of the mayan calendar was to signify the end of humanity's golden age and the begin of the decline. once the mayan calendar ends again, the decline will culminate in the second coming, the reveal of the NWO, and the rapture

[Prima Scriptura]

Why shouldn’t school boards exist? How will school districts be governed?

School is government indoctrination!!1!

That statement is true when it comes to Minneapolis public schools

[Kowani]

I mean I don’t think school boards should exist at all but if they absolutely must then they should be appointed
Failing that, they should be partisan, yes

Why shouldn’t school boards exist?

because they're awful institutions that degrade the quality of education?

How will school districts be governed?

...is this a serious question

[Prima Scriptura]

Why shouldn’t school boards exist?

because they're awful institutions that degrade the quality of education?

How will school districts be governed?

...is this a serious question

Yes, how should school districts be govern? Should the city or town executive have control over it?

[Free Algerstonia]

because they're awful institutions that degrade the quality of education?

...is this a serious question

Yes, how should school districts be govern? Should the city or town executive have control over it?

i will take control of the school board

[Free Ravensburg]

Yes, how should school districts be govern? Should the city or town executive have control over it?

i will take control of the school board

Do it. Give teachers moar pay

[Diaboland]

It'd be my dream to have control of the school board. Educational reform, more funding for the arts, ending STEM, more strict anti-bullying rules, abolishing Common Core, no more banned books...

Man, I need to run for office.

[Free Algerstonia]

i will take control of the school board

Do it. Give teachers moar pay

give me five good reasons and five bad reasons why and i will pay the teachers more

[Holy Tedalonia]

i will take control of the school board

Do it. Give teachers moar pay

If I'm not mistaken the pay is low because they usually have 3 months off. I wish they would compare the pay of a year round teacher to one that gets 3 months off. To see just how much they are missing out.

[Prima Scriptura]

Yes, how should school districts be govern? Should the city or town executive have control over it?

i will take control of the school board

No thanks. I want children to be indoctrinated with far right ideology either.

[Kowani]

because they're awful institutions that degrade the quality of education?

...is this a serious question

Yes, how should school districts be govern? Should the city or town executive have control over it?

i literally told you at the beginning: if something can be a non-partisan elected position it can and should be appointed
so whether the mayor or council (or manager, or whatever asinine local structure takes precedence) appoints civil servants to it isn't particularly relevant to me

[Eahland]

Yes, how should school districts be govern? Should the city or town executive have control over it?

i literally told you at the beginning: if something can be a non-partisan elected position it can and should be appointed
so whether the mayor or council (or manager, or whatever asinine local structure takes precedence) appoints civil servants to it isn't particularly relevant to me

And you've completely failed to provide any justification for that assertion. You're telling me that my town selectboard should be either partisan (why?) or appointed (by whom?)?

[Deblar]

Being a school age person going through Texas' public school system, I can tell you this is incorrect

What's Texas like? I like on the east coast and that's what it is like here, would love to hear your take.

Oh, it's wonderful.^[1] Our version of 7th grade sex ed in health was basically just "wait till you're married", slavery's role in the Texas Revolution was more or less completely overlooked in my Texas History classes, and the slave trade was described as the "immigration of African workers", and the school district I'm in isn't even all that conservative.

[1] note the obvious sarcasm

[Malaiya Union]

A big portion of environmental laws and its enforcement are a nest of insane amount of corruption, government abuse, and NIMBYm.

I'm not talking about objectively evil corporations corruptly bypassing laws, that would be non-enforcement. I'm talking about excessively complex and bureaucratic laws and zones and permits designed not to protect the environment, but to extract as much corrupt concessions and bribes from as much economic actors as possible, crippling local socio-economics.

[Kerwa]

Are you a Maoist.

I am right wing and I agree.

Put me in charge and everybody gets an IEP.

IEP

Improvised Exploding Pencil? It will solve the school problem.

[Kerwa]

Why shouldn’t there be non-partisan elected officials? Do you really want school board members to be partisan elected officials. How about the park board?

I mean I don’t think school boards should exist at all but if they absolutely must then they should be appointed
Failing that, they should be partisan, yes

I approve of high handedly appointing nutters to oversee schools without any parental input. Also parents should be removed in having any say at all about the running of the schools. Schools should all be controlled by a faceless, unreachable, unimpeachable bureaucrat - with a lifetime appointment - in DC.

Completely removing parents from the “school” process will increase disillusionment with the system encouraging withdrawal. Once only the most feckless and lazy are sending their kids to government schools they will lose popular support and collapse - much like the NYC bureau of subsurface exploration - helping solve your imagined real estate crisis.

So good idea.

[Loeje]

It'd be my dream to have control of the school board. Educational reform, more funding for the arts, ending STEM, more strict anti-bullying rules, abolishing Common Core, no more banned books...

Man, I need to run for office.

I'm definitely a fan of more funding for the arts, but ending STEM seems like a very bad idea. Arts and STEM belong together in a lot of ways, it's good to treat both of them equally.

Also, I don't know what's wrong with Common Core.

[Free Algerstonia]

i will take control of the school board

No thanks. I want children to be indoctrinated with far right ideology either.

nah i won't do that i will be as centrist as i can because i love centrism

[Dumb Ideologies]

No thanks. I want children to be indoctrinated with far right ideology either.

nah i won't do that i will be as centrist as i can because i love centrism

Teach half the kids only how to read and the other half only how to write so the next generation have to work together and reach across the aisle.

[Nova Catania]

Now that it’s on topic here’s my rant against the school system. Just so you know, I live in North Carolina.

1. Cut unnecessary classes. Pre-calculus does squat in the real world. Instead, add useful classes, like personal finance, job skills, maybe even first aid.

2. Sex ed. I don’t give a crap about it. Adults argue over it, we snicker over it. As long as it doesn’t get too preachy in either direction, I’m fine.

3. History. Dead people and their mistakes. In my mind, history should be balanced. I was lucky enough to have a US history teacher who was. So teach kids about the mistakes that were made, don’t sweep them under the rug. As for CRT (I had to look up what it was, other than just a political thing that riled people up) I don’t understand it well enough to have an opinion.

4. GIVE STUDENTS A DAMN SAY IN THINGS. The school board has become too politicized. Instead, it should be handled by a group of teachers from each school, and a STUDENT ELECTED representative from each. School elections are hilariously low-stakes, but if the student council actually gets to make legit policies, and decide how to use funds, or at least has a vote in said decisions, students will be more involved, and learn to view the political system as a way to positively change their community. This is essential because while the grow-ups are too far gone in their attachment to parties, the younger populace still has a chance to break free from this as we grow older.

5. Teachers always get away with public sympathy with the “We don’t get paid enough to do glorified babysitting” schtick. No offense to any teachers, but think of the students people! We’re the ones who get paid nothing to sit and listen to teachers squawk. If life is made easier for the students, we’ll be happier, give the teachers less bad headaches, they’ll give the overly-politicized school board a less bad head ache, they’ll give the parents a less bad headache, and our parents will give us les bad head aches. It’s a cycle of headache lessening.

If I ran just my local school system, these changes would be implemented.

[Kowani]

i literally told you at the beginning: if something can be a non-partisan elected position it can and should be appointed
so whether the mayor or council (or manager, or whatever asinine local structure takes precedence) appoints civil servants to it isn't particularly relevant to me

And you've completely failed to provide any justification for that assertion. You're telling me that my town selectboard should be either partisan (why?)

firstly because non-partisan offices are simply a nice lie we tell ourselves to pretend that political activity can exist outside of partisan politics (there are, of course, one-off examples, the Alaska legislature is illustrative, but they are exceptions) and we should be honest about that, but more importantly because this dynamic only obscures the politics of reaction to modern curriculum. And for the kids, it also promotes stability and continuity of school administration and curriculum.

or appointed (by whom?)?

I don’t know the makeup of your local government
preferably the slots would be open only to the civil service and the mayor/manager/council would pick from there but if your town’s small enough that might not be an option

I mean I don’t think school boards should exist at all but if they absolutely must then they should be appointed
Failing that, they should be partisan, yes

I approve of high handedly appointing nutters to oversee schools without any parental input. Also parents should be removed in having any say at all about the running of the schools.

as much as is feasible, yes. parents are in fact given far too much power over schools (the US is is a global outlier here for a reason!) and their kids’ lives in general

Schools should all be controlled by a faceless, unreachable, unimpeachable bureaucrat - with a lifetime appointment - in DC.

lmao no this is a horrible idea

Completely removing parents from the “school” process will increase disillusionment with the system encouraging withdrawal. Once only the most feckless and lazy are sending their kids to government schools they will lose popular support and collapse - much like the NYC bureau of subsurface exploration - helping solve your imagined real estate crisis.iw

So good idea.

…NYC’s subsurface exploration authority belongs to the DOT, you did not think this example through at all

[Ethel mermania]

And you've completely failed to provide any justification for that assertion. You're telling me that my town selectboard should be either partisan (why?)

firstly because non-partisan offices are simply a nice lie we tell ourselves to pretend that political activity can exist outside of partisan politics (there are, of course, one-off examples, the Alaska legislature is illustrative, but they are exceptions) and we should be honest about that, but more importantly because this dynamic only obscures the politics of reaction to modern curriculum. And for the kids, it also promotes stability and continuity of school administration and curriculum.

or appointed (by whom?)?

I don’t know the makeup of your local government
preferably the slots would be open only to the civil service and the mayor/manager/council would pick from there but if your town’s small enough that might not be an option

I approve of high handedly appointing nutters to oversee schools without any parental input. Also parents should be removed in having any say at all about the running of the schools.

as much as is feasible, yes. parents are in fact given far too much power over schools (the US is is a global outlier here for a reason!) and their kids’ lives in general

Schools should all be controlled by a faceless, unreachable, unimpeachable bureaucrat - with a lifetime appointment - in DC.

lmao no this is a horrible idea

Completely removing parents from the “school” process will increase disillusionment with the system encouraging withdrawal. Once only the most feckless and lazy are sending their kids to government schools they will lose popular support and collapse - much like the NYC bureau of subsurface exploration - helping solve your imagined real estate crisis.iw

So good idea.

…NYC’s subsurface exploration authority belongs to the DOT, you did not think this example through at all

We have a subsurface exploration authority?

[Kowani]

firstly because non-partisan offices are simply a nice lie we tell ourselves to pretend that political activity can exist outside of partisan politics (there are, of course, one-off examples, the Alaska legislature is illustrative, but they are exceptions) and we should be honest about that, but more importantly because this dynamic only obscures the politics of reaction to modern curriculum. And for the kids, it also promotes stability and continuity of school administration and curriculum.
I don’t know the makeup of your local government
preferably the slots would be open only to the civil service and the mayor/manager/council would pick from there but if your town’s small enough that might not be an option

as much as is feasible, yes. parents are in fact given far too much power over schools (the US is is a global outlier here for a reason!) and their kids’ lives in general
lmao no this is a horrible idea

…NYC’s subsurface exploration authority belongs to the DOT, you did not think this example through at all

We have a subsurface exploration authority?

Not in the sense that it is a distinct entity, no