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New haven america
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Postby New haven america » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:58 pm

Neuer California wrote:The US is not and has never been a Christian nation. Deal with it.

The only thing worse that a government bureaucracy is a corporate bureaucracy, especially one trying to save money or deny you service (or worse, both)

(Surprise) There is nothing morally or ethically wrong with being LGBT, no matter what your religion of choice says.

Bloom Into You is a million times better than Citrus (Yuri manga, if you're wondering).

90% of SUV owners don't actually need them.

I mean, not officially.

Unofficially on the other hand...
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Postby Dreria » Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:02 am

windows 10 should be outlawed
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Postby Albrenia » Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:03 am

New haven america wrote:
Neuer California wrote:The US is not and has never been a Christian nation. Deal with it.

The only thing worse that a government bureaucracy is a corporate bureaucracy, especially one trying to save money or deny you service (or worse, both)

(Surprise) There is nothing morally or ethically wrong with being LGBT, no matter what your religion of choice says.

Bloom Into You is a million times better than Citrus (Yuri manga, if you're wondering).

90% of SUV owners don't actually need them.

I mean, not officially.

Unofficially on the other hand...


Kind of weird how a nation that makes a point of not having a national religion is so steeped in politics and religion mixing, and some other nations with official religions are so politically agnostic. Weird times.

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Postby -Astoria- » Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:05 am

Dreria wrote:windows 10 should be outlawed

Windows XP gang.
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Postby Valentine Z » Wed Nov 24, 2021 12:41 am

-Astoria- wrote:
Dreria wrote:windows 10 should be outlawed

Windows XP gang.

Ooooh, now there's my hottake:

There is next to nothing wrong with Windows Vista if you give it a chance in 2020. That is, I'm aware it is obsolete now, but imagine if Vista was released in 2020. It was just too ahead of its time, and Windows 7 was the result of Vista's failure.

But I still believe in Vista, dammit!

(On an unrelated note, I'll reply to your TG later; have been busy!)
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Postby Page » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:45 am

Dreria wrote:windows 10 should be outlawed


I keep wanting to switch to Linux but I'm too lazy to learn it. I'm so fucking sick of updates and Microsoft accounts at gunpoint.

Am I misremembering or didn't updates used to be super rare? I swear back when XP was the big thing there were like 2 per year at most.
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Postby Elejamie » Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:30 am

Page wrote:
Dreria wrote:windows 10 should be outlawed


I keep wanting to switch to Linux but I'm too lazy to learn it. I'm so fucking sick of updates and Microsoft accounts at gunpoint.


As a Linux user for the past seven years, there are some distros that aren't that hard to install. Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Zorin (which looks a lot like Windows so billy bonus), Pop!_OS (which is ideal for gaming despite the whole Steam SNAFU that happened a few weeks ago) and a few others have proper installers so you don't need to waste hours compiling anything. There are even a few computers (like Chromebooks and System76's stuff) that have distros pre-installed if you want to skip all that. All you'd need is the distro you want, a memory stick, Rufus (or some other bootable drive software) and maybe a guide just to be safe.
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Postby Valentine Z » Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:35 am

Elejamie wrote:
Page wrote:
I keep wanting to switch to Linux but I'm too lazy to learn it. I'm so fucking sick of updates and Microsoft accounts at gunpoint.


As a Linux user for the past seven years, there are some distros that aren't that hard to install. Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Zorin (which looks a lot like Windows so billy bonus), Pop!_OS (which is ideal for gaming despite the whole Steam SNAFU that happened a few weeks ago) and a few others have proper installers so you don't need to waste hours compiling anything. There are even a few computers (like Chromebooks and System76's stuff) that have distros pre-installed if you want to skip all that. All you'd need is the distro you want, a memory stick, Rufus (or some other bootable drive software) and maybe a guide just to be safe.

You sold me on System76 and Pop!_OS, though I have to ask what kind of SNAFU happened..
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Postby Elejamie » Wed Nov 24, 2021 4:52 am

Valentine Z wrote:
Elejamie wrote:
As a Linux user for the past seven years, there are some distros that aren't that hard to install. Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Zorin (which looks a lot like Windows so billy bonus), Pop!_OS (which is ideal for gaming despite the whole Steam SNAFU that happened a few weeks ago) and a few others have proper installers so you don't need to waste hours compiling anything. There are even a few computers (like Chromebooks and System76's stuff) that have distros pre-installed if you want to skip all that. All you'd need is the distro you want, a memory stick, Rufus (or some other bootable drive software) and maybe a guide just to be safe.

You sold me on System76 and Pop!_OS, though I have to ask what kind of SNAFU happened..


Basically when people (most notably Linus Tech Tips) tried to sudo apt install Steam it basically deleted the GUI. Fortunately that issue has since been fixed, albeit before Linus put out that video, but fortunately there are a few distros with app stores so there's no need to copy and paste any codey stuff into a terminal just to install anything.

Also, good choice going for Pop!_OS, I've suggested it to a friend of mine for when he wants to make the leap to Linux as well. It probably helps that it's one of the few distros that actually works with Nvidia, although that version's kind of listed separately to a normal one that doesn't have all that driver support. The computers themselves are quite expensive ($1,100 for their cheapest laptop and that's with a sale going on at the minute) but fortunately the OS itself is free.
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Ispravlennaja Tsekovija
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Postby Ispravlennaja Tsekovija » Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:07 am

Elejamie wrote:
Page wrote:
I keep wanting to switch to Linux but I'm too lazy to learn it. I'm so fucking sick of updates and Microsoft accounts at gunpoint.


As a Linux user for the past seven years, there are some distros that aren't that hard to install. Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Zorin (which looks a lot like Windows so billy bonus), Pop!_OS (which is ideal for gaming despite the whole Steam SNAFU that happened a few weeks ago) and a few others have proper installers so you don't need to waste hours compiling anything. There are even a few computers (like Chromebooks and System76's stuff) that have distros pre-installed if you want to skip all that. All you'd need is the distro you want, a memory stick, Rufus (or some other bootable drive software) and maybe a guide just to be safe.

all four of those distributions are pretty terrible, chrome os (which is gentoo but impossible to administrate) even more so. i'll point out that the install phase for opensuse or debian is not noticeably more complicated than any of those, although administration is probably more difficult due to the greater freedom they afford. and nixos is actually simpler than all of those to install in my experience and it's a great option for even beginners if you aren't a developer and will never need to compile anything in C/++ from source.
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Postby Page » Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:19 am

Any society where the age of criminal responsibility is lower than the age of consent is seriously fucked up (looking at you America).

Whatever you think the age of consent should be, the age of criminal responsibility should be at least that and in my view much higher. Think about it: A person is too young to have sex, it'll traumatize them, fuck them up, but you would throw that person in prison as if that's not inflicting a hundred times more suffering than a rapist?

If someone is too immature to consent to sex, how the fuck can they be mature enough to be competent to stand trial as an adult for a crime?
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Postby Haganham » Wed Nov 24, 2021 9:26 am

Page wrote:Any society where the age of criminal responsibility is lower than the age of consent is seriously fucked up (looking at you America).

Whatever you think the age of consent should be, the age of criminal responsibility should be at least that and in my view much higher. Think about it: A person is too young to have sex, it'll traumatize them, fuck them up, but you would throw that person in prison as if that's not inflicting a hundred times more suffering than a rapist?

If someone is too immature to consent to sex, how the fuck can they be mature enough to be competent to stand trial as an adult for a crime?

Related to this. If a person is being charged as an adult, any charge where being a minor is an element should be immediately dismissed with prejudice. Pick one.
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Postby Page » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:25 am

Well meaning people are responsible for significantly more suffering in this world than evil people.

I've been molested, beat up, abused as a kid, been the victim of organized bullying, and all the cumulative suffering doesn't come close to the shit I was subjected to during 5 days in a psych ward by people who were "helping" me. I have a lot less anger toward the guy who sexually assaulted me than toward politicians who think I should be in prison for using a plant that has helped me treat my anxiety and depression like nothing else.
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Postby Imperial States of Duotona » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:54 am

Page wrote:Well meaning people are responsible for significantly more suffering in this world than evil people.

I've been molested, beat up, abused as a kid, been the victim of organized bullying, and all the cumulative suffering doesn't come close to the shit I was subjected to during 5 days in a psych ward by people who were "helping" me. I have a lot less anger toward the guy who sexually assaulted me than toward politicians who think I should be in prison for using a plant that has helped me treat my anxiety and depression like nothing else.

Jesus, that's a lot of bad stuff. Yeah, people sometimes really need to know the people they affect before they pass a law.

Also, how the help is this thread still going? I made up the idea on the fly one day and now it's on this many pages!?
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Postby Just-An-Illusion » Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:02 am

Imperial States of Duotona wrote:
Page wrote:Well meaning people are responsible for significantly more suffering in this world than evil people.

I've been molested, beat up, abused as a kid, been the victim of organized bullying, and all the cumulative suffering doesn't come close to the shit I was subjected to during 5 days in a psych ward by people who were "helping" me. I have a lot less anger toward the guy who sexually assaulted me than toward politicians who think I should be in prison for using a plant that has helped me treat my anxiety and depression like nothing else.

Jesus, that's a lot of bad stuff. Yeah, people sometimes really need to know the people they affect before they pass a law.

Also, how the help is this thread still going? I made up the idea on the fly one day and now it's on this many pages!?


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There is no type of rifle that is an assault rifle. However, assault rifles, in my opinion, do exist. They are the rifles issued to soldiers.
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Postby Dystopian Florida » Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:07 pm

Free Ravensburg wrote:There is no type of rifle that is an assault rifle. However, assault rifles, in my opinion, do exist. They are the rifles issued to soldiers.


Strictly speaking, the only true "assault rifle" is the STG-44, which Adolf Hitler, the great gun grabber himself, delightedly named the "Sturmgewehr." So, yes, Virginia, gun-controllers are Nazis.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:57 pm

Italia Suprema wrote:The future is the future. It doesn't belong to anyone, male or female. It must be seized. No one is entitled to it.

Yes, sentiments like "The future is [insert group]" are really not that great.
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Postby Mayhem Era Anglo-America » Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:16 pm

Stellar Colonies wrote:
Italia Suprema wrote:The future is the future. It doesn't belong to anyone, male or female. It must be seized. No one is entitled to it.

Yes, sentiments like "The future is [insert group]" are really not that great.


Precisely. The only thing that the future is...is unwritten.
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Postby Hispida » Thu Nov 25, 2021 8:01 pm

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Postby Menassa » Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:21 pm

Free Ravensburg wrote:There is no type of rifle that is an assault rifle. However, assault rifles, in my opinion, do exist. They are the rifles issued to soldiers.

Any rifle is an assault rife if you assault someone with it. :ugeek:
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Postby Menassa » Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:23 pm

Neuer California wrote:[...]
(Surprise) There is nothing morally or ethically wrong with being LGBT, no matter what your religion of choice says.

[...]

Not saying that there is anything morally or ethically wrong with being LGBT. But if 'your religion of choice' says that being LGBT is morally or ethically wrong, then, in that moral framework, it would be morally or ethically wrong to be LGBT.
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:46 pm

The California recall election was rigged and Donald Trump is the reincarnation of George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson, Napoleon, Jesus Christ, and more
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:51 pm

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