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Postby The V I C » Thu Nov 18, 2021 2:45 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:Racebaiters like Tariq Nasheed are more common than people think is another hot take of mine.


In a racist country like America, there's racists of all colors. Looks like we're more alike than different.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:45 pm

The Kingdom Of The Three Isles wrote:
Just-An-Illusion wrote:Here's another hot take:

Abolishing religion is fascism.

As well as abolishing atheism

Abolish abolishing
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Postby Free Ravensburg » Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:49 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
The Kingdom Of The Three Isles wrote:As well as abolishing atheism

Abolish abolishing

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Postby The Kingdom of the Three Isles » Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:12 pm

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The Kingdom Of The Three Isles wrote:That’s what the n@zis said. Of course, you’re flag is the fascist version of Britain in HOI4 lol

"HOI4 FLAG HOI4 FLAG"

it's literally a historical flag

Yeah I know lol. Just adding some…chaos to this thread.
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Postby Immortan Khan » Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:20 pm

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The internet has made it so much easier to embrace weird forms of cognitive dissonance. I’m not even sure that he’s not trolling, but if he isn’t, it could be a toxic cocktail of Nietzsche and Harris or Dawkins or Hitchens.

Even as an atheist, it’s embarrassing. I don’t mind the religious as long as they emulate Fred Rogers instead of Fred Phelps.


If only the religious were as tolerant as you. I don’t hate peoples. I hate religion. Period. All religion. Man must evolve beyond all forms of superstition and learn to worship the State instead.

Mfw absolutely disgusting and cuckoldpilled.
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Postby The Kingdom of the Three Isles » Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:24 pm

Immortan Khan wrote:
Restored England wrote:

If only the religious were as tolerant as you. I don’t hate peoples. I hate religion. Period. All religion. Man must evolve beyond all forms of superstition and learn to worship the State instead.

Mfw absolutely disgusting and cuckoldpilled.

Ikr! >:(
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:24 pm

Restored England wrote:
Mayhem Era France wrote:
The internet has made it so much easier to embrace weird forms of cognitive dissonance. I’m not even sure that he’s not trolling, but if he isn’t, it could be a toxic cocktail of Nietzsche and Harris or Dawkins or Hitchens.

Even as an atheist, it’s embarrassing. I don’t mind the religious as long as they emulate Fred Rogers instead of Fred Phelps.


If only the religious were as tolerant as you. I don’t hate peoples. I hate religion. Period. All religion. Man must evolve beyond all forms of superstition and learn to worship the State instead.


The state is subservient to religion and has no legitimacy except Buddha's authority.
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Postby Necroghastia » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:35 pm

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Postby Hispida » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:39 pm

The Kingdom Of The Three Isles wrote:
Immortan Khan wrote:Mfw absolutely disgusting and cuckoldpilled.

Ikr! >:(

get used to it. that's how fascism works.
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Postby Incelastan » Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:46 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:Racebaiters like Tariq Nasheed are more common than people think is another hot take of mine.


Who is that?
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Postby Incelastan » Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:51 pm

All criminals should be sterilized once convicted of felonies and banned for life from adopting children, just to cover both the nature and nurture sides of bad parenting. Anyone who receives a lower IQ than 70 should also be sterilized upon coming of age and banned from adopting children.
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Postby Hemakral » Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:49 pm

Incelastan wrote:All criminals should be sterilized once convicted of felonies and banned for life from adopting children, just to cover both the nature and nurture sides of bad parenting. Anyone who receives a lower IQ than 70 should also be sterilized upon coming of age and banned from adopting children.

Eugenics and authoritarian policies from the incel nation, real shocker. What you're suggesting is hellish in both thought and in practice, and suggesting it alone is beyond foul.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:57 pm

Incelastan wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Racebaiters like Tariq Nasheed are more common than people think is another hot take of mine.


Who is that?

Some "activist" who harassed a mentally ill receptionist in a hotel. Then had the gall to play the victim and accuse the man he harassed of racism. Also released an ahistorical documentary about the supposed practice of "buck breaking" which was the supposed institutional raping of black slaves by homosexual and bisexual slave masters during the colonial and antebellum era.

Btw, are you really an incel or just trying to be edgy?

Incelastan wrote:All criminals should be sterilized once convicted of felonies and banned for life from adopting children, just to cover both the nature and nurture sides of bad parenting. Anyone who receives a lower IQ than 70 should also be sterilized upon coming of age and banned from adopting children.

1. I doubt many people with IQs below 70 are having sex.
2. Sterilizing all felons is dumb, especially when not all felonies are violent.
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Postby New Tryphalia » Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:00 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Incelastan wrote:
Who is that?

Some "activist" who harassed a mentally ill receptionist in a hotel. Then had the gall to play the victim and accuse the man he harassed of racism. Also released an ahistorical documentary about the supposed practice of "buck breaking" which was the supposed institutional raping of black slaves by homosexual and bisexual slave masters during the colonial and antebellum era.

Btw, are you really an incel or just trying to be edgy?

Incelastan wrote:All criminals should be sterilized once convicted of felonies and banned for life from adopting children, just to cover both the nature and nurture sides of bad parenting. Anyone who receives a lower IQ than 70 should also be sterilized upon coming of age and banned from adopting children.

1. I doubt many people with IQs below 70 are having sex.
2. Sterilizing all felons is dumb, especially when not all felonies are violent.


I've often wondered about that. You'd think that felony convictions and the subsequent denial of civil rights would only follow violent offenses, but maybe that's me. Why would people who commit non-violent crimes even be locked up? They're not a physical danger to their neighbors, so what is it, merely punishment? Surely better punishments could be applied that didn't deny them freedom and waste their possible utility in society. Just a fair question, I think, thinking aloud. Not directing specifically at you, RAR.

It does sound as if Incelastan just wants to push the envelope or whatever. Or maybe he really believes in it. I dunno. At least he's branching outside of the usual "nature only" approach to curbing misparenting. Even so, there are plenty of cases that defy explanation when it comes to criminality, though admittedly, one rarely sees behind the scenes of their "happy, normal upbringing". I'm often skeptical of just how well-adjusted their families truly were when looking into these cases.
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Postby Free Ravensburg » Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:03 pm

Education systems should teach kids how to start businesses instead of just preparing them for college
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Postby Valentine Z » Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:11 pm

Free Ravensburg wrote:Education systems should teach kids how to start businesses instead of just preparing them for college

Life lessons, as I would like to call them.

Modules like basic survival skills, cooking, tax forms, basic mechanic skills, etc etc...

We could have them in schools!
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Postby The Kingdom of the Three Isles » Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:45 pm

Hispida wrote:
The Kingdom Of The Three Isles wrote:Ikr! >:(

get used to it. that's how fascism works.

I am used to it. What do you mean?
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Postby Hemakral » Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:47 pm

New Tryphalia wrote:
I've often wondered about that. You'd think that felony convictions and the subsequent denial of civil rights would only follow violent offenses, but maybe that's me. Why would people who commit non-violent crimes even be locked up? They're not a physical danger to their neighbors, so what is it, merely punishment? Surely better punishments could be applied that didn't deny them freedom and waste their possible utility in society. Just a fair question, I think, thinking aloud. Not directing specifically at you, RAR.

It's because the prisons are owned by private companies that invest heavily in lobbying. Minimum sentencing, for example, is largely a product of the aforementioned lobbying. And yeah, prison has been repeatedly proven to cause repeat offenders. It's well known that it's immensely harmful to our society and it would be, without question, a much better use of both the prisoner's time and of our tax dollars to just require some amount of public service hours, but it's not going to happen in the states for a long while, as corporate corruption is quite deeply entrenched in the justice system and our government overall.

Free Ravensburg wrote:Education systems should teach kids how to start businesses instead of just preparing them for college


Unfortunately, our education system is designed to create compliant workers, not entrepreneurs.
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Postby Xmara » Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:03 pm

Free Ravensburg wrote:Education systems should teach kids how to start businesses instead of just preparing them for college

Agreed, so long as there's an option for college prep for high school students who plan to go to college. Learning how to start a business might be good for students who want to become business people, but would have been useless for students like me who have/had no interest in starting a business.

But yeah, schools shouldn't be focused solely on college prep and should devote equal focus to alternative routes.
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Postby Incelastan » Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:09 pm

I got a career option for those not interested in school, for the jocks and athletes and such: army, navy, air force, marines, and coast guard.
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Postby Xmara » Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:11 pm

Valentine Z wrote:
Free Ravensburg wrote:Education systems should teach kids how to start businesses instead of just preparing them for college

Life lessons, as I would like to call them.

Modules like basic survival skills, cooking, tax forms, basic mechanic skills, etc etc...

We could have them in schools!

Yes please! There should be a life skills class in school where they teach you these things!
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:17 pm

Incelastan wrote:I got a career option for those not interested in school, for the jocks and athletes and such: army, navy, air force, marines, and coast guard.

I'm assuming you do not like the military all that much.
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Postby Incelastan » Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:22 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Incelastan wrote:I got a career option for those not interested in school, for the jocks and athletes and such: army, navy, air force, marines, and coast guard.

I'm assuming you do not like the military all that much.


I like it for the chads. Everyone has their specialty. Brute force is their specialty, not mine. Mine is brains, not brawn.
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