Racing Discussion II. It's light's out and away we go!

[Caleonia]

Well damn. Seems like it was a done deal last year however. CEO shifts happen and that’s what caused this, as well as Home Depot and Lowe’s, among others, have left motorsport sponsorship.

[Rick Perry]

Well damn. Seems like it was a done deal last year however. CEO shifts happen and that’s what caused this, as well as Home Depot and Lowe’s, among others, have left motorsport sponsorship.

Noooo! Come on. Man

[Cannot think of a name]

Why did they want to go to Miami?
Why not Daytona?
I understand they want my Americans but out of all the tracks they pick Miami?
They had Sonoma, Daytona, Watkins Glen, Road America, New Hampshire/Loudon, Atlanta. More that I forgot about. And they chose Miami.

Sears Point (Sonoma) would be a nightmare for F1. First of all, it's the only stop on the NASCAR series where you can't roam the paddock because there's no room. Trying to stuff the whole circus on the circuit would be insane. But NASCAR figures it out, right? Well, there's more problems. To get to Sears Point there's three two lane roads. Long, long two lane roads. From the direction most people come from you can't expand it because it goes through marshland. Then there's just...Sonoma. It's rural as fuck, upscale rural with a bunch of vineyards. San Francisco is a healthy drive from the track. Sonoma is in no way prepared to take on Formula 1 to come to town and putting everything in San Francisco would be a hassle, especially since that means they're all going over the Golden Gate to get there, another choke point. San Francisco at one point tried to bid for a street race in San Francisco but it turned out that was really more of a thing Willie Brown (mayor at the time) wanted rather than San Francisco itself wanted. It was going to be through the Presidio but instead they put ILM there.

Sadly I think a lot of this applies to Laguna Seca as well. There are more access roads but some idiot started selling houses along the route to Laguna Seca and now the brain surgeons (I 'mean, one of them could actually be a brain surgeon...) who bought a house next to a famous race track are all "Waa boo hoo, race cars are loud." So it really restricts what could happen there. Monterey is in a better position to host the circus than Sonoma (though if we're being technical, Laguna Seca is actually in Salinas).

A street race in San Francisco would be neat, but it's the global capitol of NIMBYness and would never happen. (technically that would be Marin, but they're neck and neck). Returning the Long Beach GP to an F1 race, also cool but IRL seems to enjoy this stop on their calendar. So I'm probably stuck with the closest race to me being at COTA. Meeeeeehhhhhh.

But at least it isn't a super elaborate autocross layout in the parking lot of the Hard Rock...IMSA had a decent layout for Miami.

I'm not even sure why the parking lot thing bothers me so much, honestly. It's a wide paved space that can be shaped into whatever I'm sure it'll be fine. It's just that F1 is as much about pomp as it is racing, I guess. It just doesn't feel right for the elite form of racing to meet in the parking lot of the Hard Rock (stadium). I'm sure it'll be fine. Just not as elegant as, say, Monaco.

[Rick Perry]

Why did they want to go to Miami?
Why not Daytona?
I understand they want my Americans but out of all the tracks they pick Miami?
They had Sonoma, Daytona, Watkins Glen, Road America, New Hampshire/Loudon, Atlanta. More that I forgot about. And they chose Miami.

Sears Point (Sonoma) would be a nightmare for F1. First of all, it's the only stop on the NASCAR series where you can't roam the paddock because there's no room. Trying to stuff the whole circus on the circuit would be insane. But NASCAR figures it out, right? Well, there's more problems. To get to Sears Point there's three two lane roads. Long, long two lane roads. From the direction most people come from you can't expand it because it goes through marshland. Then there's just...Sonoma. It's rural as fuck, upscale rural with a bunch of vineyards. San Francisco is a healthy drive from the track. Sonoma is in no way prepared to take on Formula 1 to come to town and putting everything in San Francisco would be a hassle, especially since that means they're all going over the Golden Gate to get there, another choke point. San Francisco at one point tried to bid for a street race in San Francisco but it turned out that was really more of a thing Willie Brown (mayor at the time) wanted rather than San Francisco itself wanted. It was going to be through the Presidio but instead they put ILM there.

Sadly I think a lot of this applies to Laguna Seca as well. There are more access roads but some idiot started selling houses along the route to Laguna Seca and now the brain surgeons (I 'mean, one of them could actually be a brain surgeon...) who bought a house next to a famous race track are all "Waa boo hoo, race cars are loud." So it really restricts what could happen there. Monterey is in a better position to host the circus than Sonoma (though if we're being technical, Laguna Seca is actually in Salinas).

A street race in San Francisco would be neat, but it's the global capitol of NIMBYness and would never happen. (technically that would be Marin, but they're neck and neck). Returning the Long Beach GP to an F1 race, also cool but IRL seems to enjoy this stop on their calendar. So I'm probably stuck with the closest race to me being at COTA. Meeeeeehhhhhh.

But at least it isn't a super elaborate autocross layout in the parking lot of the Hard Rock...IMSA had a decent layout for Miami.

I'm not even sure why the parking lot thing bothers me so much, honestly. It's a wide paved space that can be shaped into whatever I'm sure it'll be fine. It's just that F1 is as much about pomp as it is racing, I guess. It just doesn't feel right for the elite form of racing to meet in the parking lot of the Hard Rock (stadium). I'm sure it'll be fine. Just not as elegant as, say, Monaco.

That (narrow road course) reminds me of something.
I was thinking of placing where they could race on tj e road (like Monaco) in America. Now IMSA does this thing in long Beach on the road. I personally think that is to narrow. IndyCar has St Petersburg I think that might work (I am not really familiar with the track). They could to one in Chicago But due to poor government Illinois rarely fixes our roads. But for some reason I always come back to Watkins Glen. Didn't F3 or F2 race there?

[Rick Perry]

RIP to Bob K. He will be missed

[The Two Jerseys]

Sears Point (Sonoma) would be a nightmare for F1. First of all, it's the only stop on the NASCAR series where you can't roam the paddock because there's no room. Trying to stuff the whole circus on the circuit would be insane. But NASCAR figures it out, right? Well, there's more problems. To get to Sears Point there's three two lane roads. Long, long two lane roads. From the direction most people come from you can't expand it because it goes through marshland. Then there's just...Sonoma. It's rural as fuck, upscale rural with a bunch of vineyards. San Francisco is a healthy drive from the track. Sonoma is in no way prepared to take on Formula 1 to come to town and putting everything in San Francisco would be a hassle, especially since that means they're all going over the Golden Gate to get there, another choke point. San Francisco at one point tried to bid for a street race in San Francisco but it turned out that was really more of a thing Willie Brown (mayor at the time) wanted rather than San Francisco itself wanted. It was going to be through the Presidio but instead they put ILM there.

Sadly I think a lot of this applies to Laguna Seca as well. There are more access roads but some idiot started selling houses along the route to Laguna Seca and now the brain surgeons (I 'mean, one of them could actually be a brain surgeon...) who bought a house next to a famous race track are all "Waa boo hoo, race cars are loud." So it really restricts what could happen there. Monterey is in a better position to host the circus than Sonoma (though if we're being technical, Laguna Seca is actually in Salinas).

A street race in San Francisco would be neat, but it's the global capitol of NIMBYness and would never happen. (technically that would be Marin, but they're neck and neck). Returning the Long Beach GP to an F1 race, also cool but IRL seems to enjoy this stop on their calendar. So I'm probably stuck with the closest race to me being at COTA. Meeeeeehhhhhh.

But at least it isn't a super elaborate autocross layout in the parking lot of the Hard Rock...IMSA had a decent layout for Miami.

I'm not even sure why the parking lot thing bothers me so much, honestly. It's a wide paved space that can be shaped into whatever I'm sure it'll be fine. It's just that F1 is as much about pomp as it is racing, I guess. It just doesn't feel right for the elite form of racing to meet in the parking lot of the Hard Rock (stadium). I'm sure it'll be fine. Just not as elegant as, say, Monaco.

That (narrow road course) reminds me of something.
I was thinking of placing where they could race on tj e road (like Monaco) in America. Now IMSA does this thing in long Beach on the road. I personally think that is to narrow. IndyCar has St Petersburg I think that might work (I am not really familiar with the track). They could to one in Chicago But due to poor government Illinois rarely fixes our roads. But for some reason I always come back to Watkins Glen. Didn't F3 or F2 race there?

There are only five active street circuits in the US, and realistically the only contenders at the moment are Detroit, Long Beach, and St. Pete. Nashville may be an option in the future, but they've only hosted one IndyCar race and I wouldn't want to give a GP to them until they can prove that they're in it for the long haul like the others. Brooklyn has a Formula E circuit, but it's only 1.5 miles and probably too short for F1.

If you're talking about the Watkins Glen street circuit, I believe that was SCCA, and they're not going to go back to a street circuit that's been dead for 70 years when there's a purpose-built track right there.

[Cannot think of a name]

Sears Point (Sonoma) would be a nightmare for F1. First of all, it's the only stop on the NASCAR series where you can't roam the paddock because there's no room. Trying to stuff the whole circus on the circuit would be insane. But NASCAR figures it out, right? Well, there's more problems. To get to Sears Point there's three two lane roads. Long, long two lane roads. From the direction most people come from you can't expand it because it goes through marshland. Then there's just...Sonoma. It's rural as fuck, upscale rural with a bunch of vineyards. San Francisco is a healthy drive from the track. Sonoma is in no way prepared to take on Formula 1 to come to town and putting everything in San Francisco would be a hassle, especially since that means they're all going over the Golden Gate to get there, another choke point. San Francisco at one point tried to bid for a street race in San Francisco but it turned out that was really more of a thing Willie Brown (mayor at the time) wanted rather than San Francisco itself wanted. It was going to be through the Presidio but instead they put ILM there.

Sadly I think a lot of this applies to Laguna Seca as well. There are more access roads but some idiot started selling houses along the route to Laguna Seca and now the brain surgeons (I 'mean, one of them could actually be a brain surgeon...) who bought a house next to a famous race track are all "Waa boo hoo, race cars are loud." So it really restricts what could happen there. Monterey is in a better position to host the circus than Sonoma (though if we're being technical, Laguna Seca is actually in Salinas).

A street race in San Francisco would be neat, but it's the global capitol of NIMBYness and would never happen. (technically that would be Marin, but they're neck and neck). Returning the Long Beach GP to an F1 race, also cool but IRL seems to enjoy this stop on their calendar. So I'm probably stuck with the closest race to me being at COTA. Meeeeeehhhhhh.

But at least it isn't a super elaborate autocross layout in the parking lot of the Hard Rock...IMSA had a decent layout for Miami.

I'm not even sure why the parking lot thing bothers me so much, honestly. It's a wide paved space that can be shaped into whatever I'm sure it'll be fine. It's just that F1 is as much about pomp as it is racing, I guess. It just doesn't feel right for the elite form of racing to meet in the parking lot of the Hard Rock (stadium). I'm sure it'll be fine. Just not as elegant as, say, Monaco.

That (narrow road course) reminds me of something.
I was thinking of placing where they could race on tj e road (like Monaco) in America. Now IMSA does this thing in long Beach on the road. I personally think that is to narrow. IndyCar has St Petersburg I think that might work (I am not really familiar with the track). They could to one in Chicago But due to poor government Illinois rarely fixes our roads. But for some reason I always come back to Watkins Glen. Didn't F3 or F2 race there?

Long Beach is primarily an IndyCar race, IMSA just joins the weekend. It also started as an F1 race in 76 until 83.

[Rick Perry]

That (narrow road course) reminds me of something.
I was thinking of placing where they could race on tj e road (like Monaco) in America. Now IMSA does this thing in long Beach on the road. I personally think that is to narrow. IndyCar has St Petersburg I think that might work (I am not really familiar with the track). They could to one in Chicago But due to poor government Illinois rarely fixes our roads. But for some reason I always come back to Watkins Glen. Didn't F3 or F2 race there?

There are only five active street circuits in the US, and realistically the only contenders at the moment are Detroit, Long Beach, and St. Pete. Nashville may be an option in the future, but they've only hosted one IndyCar race and I wouldn't want to give a GP to them until they can prove that they're in it for the long haul like the others. Brooklyn has a Formula E circuit, but it's only 1.5 miles and probably too short for F1.

If you're talking about the Watkins Glen street circuit, I believe that was SCCA, and they're not going to go back to a street circuit that's been dead for 70 years when there's a purpose-built track right there.

There is a street course in Watkins Glen? I meant the one that Chase Elliot always wins

[Cannot think of a name]

There are only five active street circuits in the US, and realistically the only contenders at the moment are Detroit, Long Beach, and St. Pete. Nashville may be an option in the future, but they've only hosted one IndyCar race and I wouldn't want to give a GP to them until they can prove that they're in it for the long haul like the others. Brooklyn has a Formula E circuit, but it's only 1.5 miles and probably too short for F1.

If you're talking about the Watkins Glen street circuit, I believe that was SCCA, and they're not going to go back to a street circuit that's been dead for 70 years when there's a purpose-built track right there.

There is a street course in Watkins Glen? I meant the one that Chase Elliot always wins

C'mon dude, it's right there in your own link.

[Cannot think of a name]

This came up somewhere else (well, not really, so I'm making it come up here. Something almost like it came up somewhere else...)

Any of you have a favorite line from a racing movie? Most of them, sadly, are abysmal but there are some good moments in a few. Gems like this from Le Mans;

"Racing is life. Everything that happens before or after is waiting."

Or, me and my brother are fond of using the "special balanced set of tires" whenever we pull off something in a car (usually a video game since we're not prone to risky behavior on public roads being adults and all)
(it's from Days of Thunder)

Or the harshest you're fired line from Grand Prix when Pete Aron gets dismissed from Ferrari:
"There are fewer than thirty men in the world qualified to drive Formula One; a mere half-dozen, perhaps, to win. At this moment, I am inclined to think you are not one of them."

[Hapilopper]

I don't want to narrow it down to a single line, but the "Gimme Some Lovin" scene from Days of Thunder might be my favorite in a racing movie, from Harry telling Cole:
"Alright, while we're still under a caution, I want you to go back out on that track AND HIT THE PACE CAR!"
"Hit the pace car?"
"HIT THE PACE CAR!"
"What for?"
"Because you've hit every other god damn thing out there, I want you to be perfect!"

All the way to the scene where Harry and the crew are eating ice cream. Such a great scene - and both of those moments are based on real incidents, too, which makes me enjoy it more.

[Cannot think of a name]

I don't want to narrow it down to a single line, but the "Gimme Some Lovin" scene from Days of Thunder might be my favorite in a racing movie, from Harry telling Cole:
"Alright, while we're still under a caution, I want you to go back out on that track AND HIT THE PACE CAR!"
"Hit the pace car?"
"HIT THE PACE CAR!"
"What for?"
"Because you've hit every other god damn thing out there, I want you to be perfect!"

All the way to the scene where Harry and the crew are eating ice cream. Such a great scene - and both of those moments are based on real incidents, too, which makes me enjoy it more.

The fact that the ice cream thing was based on something that really happened really made that scene.

[Rick Perry]

I don't want to narrow it down to a single line, but the "Gimme Some Lovin" scene from Days of Thunder might be my favorite in a racing movie, from Harry telling Cole:
"Alright, while we're still under a caution, I want you to go back out on that track AND HIT THE PACE CAR!"
"Hit the pace car?"
"HIT THE PACE CAR!"
"What for?"
"Because you've hit every other god damn thing out there, I want you to be perfect!"

All the way to the scene where Harry and the crew are eating ice cream. Such a great scene - and both of those moments are based on real incidents, too, which makes me enjoy it more.

There is no other movie line that can beat that one

[Vassenor]

TMW you realise Max is the first WDC since Niki Lauda to have never raced against Michael Schumacher.

[Rick Perry]

TMW you realise Max is the first WDC since Niki Lauda to have never raced against Michael Schumacher.

[Rick Perry]

Most wins in F1 History

I am not sure how exact this is.

[Vassenor]

Three weeks on and people are still insisting that Lewis was robbed of a title that was his by some sort of divine right. Jesus christ people.

[Sword Island]

We are almost 3 weeks away from the start of Daytona Speedweeks

[Diarcesia]

Three weeks on and people are still insisting that Lewis was robbed of a title that was his by some sort of divine right. Jesus christ people.

It goes both ways sadly. For much of the final stretch of the season, a lot seems to be ready to say Max was robbed.

[Cannot think of a name]

Three weeks on and people are still insisting that Lewis was robbed of a title that was his by some sort of divine right. Jesus christ people.

I mean, you've met the internet. You can't get surprised that people hold on to shit for a while on the internet.

We are almost 3 weeks away from the start of Daytona Speedweeks

Three weeks until I have to subscribe to the ()$*# )( Peacock so I can watch IMSA. No DPhs this year, right? Swan song for the old formula? This transition was thrown off so much by Covid I can't remember who is rolling out when. I know the Porsche is next year, that's about it.

[Cannot think of a name]

New F1 contender.

[Philjia]

2022 WRC kicks off in Monte Carlo next week. Eight time champion and last year's winner Sébastien Ogier is still here, so smart money's on him to win for Toyota, who are using a new version of the Yaris. Hyundai are entering a significantly altered car that is still based on the i20, while Ford are replacing their Fiesta with a car based on the Puma, their subcompact crossover SUV.

[Northwest egg]

Hey ya'll I'm kind of late to this party but does this board accept drifting as a topic? Not racing, but it's an autosport.

[Cannot think of a name]

Hey ya'll I'm kind of late to this party but does this board accept drifting as a topic? Not racing, but it's an autosport.

Not my favorite thing but I don't see why not. There's no real thread ownership in general.

[Caleonia]

That (narrow road course) reminds me of something.
I was thinking of placing where they could race on tj e road (like Monaco) in America. Now IMSA does this thing in long Beach on the road. I personally think that is to narrow. IndyCar has St Petersburg I think that might work (I am not really familiar with the track). They could to one in Chicago But due to poor government Illinois rarely fixes our roads. But for some reason I always come back to Watkins Glen. Didn't F3 or F2 race there?

There are only five active street circuits in the US, and realistically the only contenders at the moment are Detroit, Long Beach, and St. Pete. Nashville may be an option in the future, but they've only hosted one IndyCar race and I wouldn't want to give a GP to them until they can prove that they're in it for the long haul like the others. Brooklyn has a Formula E circuit, but it's only 1.5 miles and probably too short for F1.

If you're talking about the Watkins Glen street circuit, I believe that was SCCA, and they're not going to go back to a street circuit that's been dead for 70 years when there's a purpose-built track right there.

I don’t think anyone wants to see F1 in Detroit. I’d rather go to an unproven Nashville than that mess of a city, and I live twice as far away from Nashville in comparison to Detroit.