Slave owner, murderer gets 10 years in jail

[South Reinkalistan]

all i can read from this is that you're trying to ascribe meaning to something vague and basically presume things about what i actually believe in

this is not really a good basis by which to get an argument through. ideally nobody gets tortured but she'd get something much closer to "justice" in iraq than she would in germany.

“It’s other people’s fault for not understanding and ascribing the correct meaning when I communicate badly”

personally i'm of the position that a random off-hand comment i make should not really be taken as an indicator of the relative intricacies of my positions on this matter

you're being a pedant

[-Astoria-]

If I remember correctly, rope has become a more popular option there — at least, if Iraq is any indication.

Meanwhile, in Saudi Arabia, they chop the head off.

The last country to do so... with the second-to-last being France.

[Senkaku]

“It’s other people’s fault for not understanding and ascribing the correct meaning when I communicate badly”

personally i'm of the position that a random off-hand comment i make should not really be taken as an indicator of the relative intricacies of my positions on this matter

you're being a pedant

You’re the one who chose to come here and say it!

[The New California Republic]

One of those reports was about me, so maybe some reports were unwarranted?

Are you accidentally posting with a puppet? It makes it easier to debate with people if they use their main accounts.

Considering the account was only created after this thread was created, it seems like a pretty obvious puppet.

[Cali4nia]

One of those reports was about me, so maybe some reports were unwarranted?

That's for the Mods to decide. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Then the number of reports is not a valid argument. Only the number of sustained reports, which is as yet to be decided. It seems to me that trolling is an accusation oo easily flung about by those who presume western justice to be better than oriental justice.

[South Reinkalistan]

personally i'm of the position that a random off-hand comment i make should not really be taken as an indicator of the relative intricacies of my positions on this matter

you're being a pedant

You’re the one who chose to come here and say it!

yes, i don't see what that changes about the nature of what i said.

you see, i am unfamiliar with where you are from or what your culture is. but generally, where i come from, if a statement is vague, you first ask for clarification rather than making your own presumptions. then you accept the provided clarification, because that's the right thing to do. i hope we can get over this relative culture shock and start on a fresh page. :)

[Greater Cesnica]

10 years is fucking ridiculous. Life in prison. Simple.

[Cali4nia]

One of those reports was about me, so maybe some reports were unwarranted?

Are you accidentally posting with a puppet? It makes it easier to debate with people if they use their main accounts.

O sorry, this is indeed one of the two nations I made today.

Main account: Deep Dark Dust Dimensions

[Senkaku]

You’re the one who chose to come here and say it!

yes, i don't see what that changes about the nature of what i said.

you see, i am unfamiliar with where you are from or what your culture is. but generally, where i come from, if a statement is vague, you first ask for clarification rather than making your own presumptions. then you accept the provided clarification, because that's the right thing to do. i hope we can get over this relative culture shock and start on a fresh page.

It says something about someone if they choose to make vague, expansive, and frankly rather sinister statements to provoke a response before they actually lay out what they think. You chose to come here and imply that you think she should be tortured before you ever decided to explain your thoughts about the jurisdiction she should be tried under. That tells me things about you and about why you chose to participate in this conversation in the first place.

[Sky Reavers]

10 years is fucking ridiculous. Life in prison. Simple.

A life in prison might be even worse punishment than death. In Russia for example, there is a prison called Black Dolphin in Orenburg Oblast, it's a prison for worst criminals, such as child molestors, serial killers, cannibals and terrorists. Some inmates wish for death penalty in there.

[South Reinkalistan]

yes, i don't see what that changes about the nature of what i said.

you see, i am unfamiliar with where you are from or what your culture is. but generally, where i come from, if a statement is vague, you first ask for clarification rather than making your own presumptions. then you accept the provided clarification, because that's the right thing to do. i hope we can get over this relative culture shock and start on a fresh page.

It says something about someone if they choose to make vague, expansive, and frankly rather sinister statements to provoke a response before they actually lay out what they think. You chose to come here and imply that you think she should be tortured before you ever decided to explain your thoughts about the jurisdiction she should be tried under. That tells me things about you and about why you chose to participate in this conversation in the first place.

you're looking into this way too deep, you can't really gleam anything about someone's personality via one internet post made while bored. why i chose to "participate" in this conversation is simple: send a quick post indicating my outrage, with a general suggestion of what i want to happen. if you think of "mob violence and terrorists" before "the ruling government" the moment i say "iraq", that says more about you than it does about me.

[The Islands of Versilia]

A single bullet doesn’t cost much, so I don’t know what their complaints are about.

If I remember correctly, rope has become a more popular option there — at least, if Iraq is any indication.

True.

yes, i don't see what that changes about the nature of what i said.

you see, i am unfamiliar with where you are from or what your culture is. but generally, where i come from, if a statement is vague, you first ask for clarification rather than making your own presumptions. then you accept the provided clarification, because that's the right thing to do. i hope we can get over this relative culture shock and start on a fresh page.

It says something about someone if they choose to make vague, expansive, and frankly rather sinister statements to provoke a response before they actually lay out what they think. You chose to come here and imply that you think she should be tortured before you ever decided to explain your thoughts about the jurisdiction she should be tried under. That tells me things about you and about why you chose to participate in this conversation in the first place.

sounds like a skill issue to me :shrug:

[Fartsniffage]

If I remember correctly, rope has become a more popular option there — at least, if Iraq is any indication.

Meanwhile, in Saudi Arabia, they chop the head off.

Not much of a punishment. I don't use mine for much anyway.

[CoraSpia]

Meanwhile, in Saudi Arabia, they chop the head off.

Not much of a punishment. I don't use mine for much anyway.

Where would you pour the rum if it was gone?

[Greater Cesnica]

10 years is fucking ridiculous. Life in prison. Simple.

A life in prison might be even worse punishment than death. In Russia for example, there is a prison called Black Dolphin in Orenburg Oblast, it's a prison for worst criminals, such as child molestors, serial killers, cannibals and terrorists. Some inmates wish for death penalty in there.

Well as I am opposed to capital punishment, life imprisonment in a relatively humane place will do.

[Deep Dark Dust Dimensions]

yes, i don't see what that changes about the nature of what i said.

you see, i am unfamiliar with where you are from or what your culture is. but generally, where i come from, if a statement is vague, you first ask for clarification rather than making your own presumptions. then you accept the provided clarification, because that's the right thing to do. i hope we can get over this relative culture shock and start on a fresh page.

It says something about someone if they choose to make vague, expansive, and frankly rather sinister statements to provoke a response before they actually lay out what they think. You chose to come here and imply that you think she should be tortured before you ever decided to explain your thoughts about the jurisdiction she should be tried under. That tells me things about you and about why you chose to participate in this conversation in the first place.

Again, and this time through my main forum account:

where are the reports about systemic torture by the Kurds?
So far, those crimes are in your mind, not in theirs, and even if they have it in mind, they may still not have it in reality. Your prejudice against the YPG almost boils down to "We cannot let those (slur) handle trials, only we know how to do that. They don´t know what a proper sentence is, only we dicide that, etc..."

Take a step back, and consider where you have actually read about Kurds committing crimes against prisoners in their care.
Now consider where your opponents in this thread could have read such materials.
Now ask yourself if you should accuse all and sunder of advocating torture and trolling.

[Fartsniffage]

Not much of a punishment. I don't use mine for much anyway.

Where would you pour the rum if it was gone?

Well my needle phobia would also be gone so I'd just fill an IV with it.

[CoraSpia]

A life in prison might be even worse punishment than death. In Russia for example, there is a prison called Black Dolphin in Orenburg Oblast, it's a prison for worst criminals, such as child molestors, serial killers, cannibals and terrorists. Some inmates wish for death penalty in there.

Well as I am opposed to capital punishment, life imprisonment in a relatively humane place will do.

What is the rehabilitative function of life imprisonment?

[Sky Reavers]

Take a step back, and consider where you have actually read about Kurds committing crimes against prisoners in their care.
Now consider where your opponents in this thread could have read such materials.
Now ask yourself if you should accuse all and sunder of advocating torture and trolling.

Well, I suppose, it's possible to accuse at least half of folks, who posted here of advocating death. Quarter for advocating torture. Don't know about trolling though...

[Senkaku]

It says something about someone if they choose to make vague, expansive, and frankly rather sinister statements to provoke a response before they actually lay out what they think. You chose to come here and imply that you think she should be tortured before you ever decided to explain your thoughts about the jurisdiction she should be tried under. That tells me things about you and about why you chose to participate in this conversation in the first place.

you're looking into this way too deep, you can't really gleam anything about someone's personality via one internet post made while bored. why i chose to "participate" in this conversation is simple: send a quick post indicating my outrage, with a general suggestion of what i want to happen. if you think of "mob violence and terrorists" before "the ruling government" the moment i say "iraq", that says more about you than it does about me.

Is it going to bring the dead Yazidi girl back if another person gets tortured to death? What’s wrong with you?

"Person".

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Fartsniffage]

Well as I am opposed to capital punishment, life imprisonment in a relatively humane place will do.

What is the rehabilitative function of life imprisonment?

You can always impose life with a possibility of parole.

[Sky Reavers]

What is the rehabilitative function of life imprisonment?

Not sure if she can be rehabilitated. Such deeds are just too heinous. But at least she is won't be committing any crimes out there.

[Senkaku]

Again, and this time through my main forum account:

Lol

where are the reports about systemic torture by the Kurds?

Do I need “reports about systemic torture by the Kurds” to fear she might not be executed in a humane manner upon return to Iraq?

[CoraSpia]

What is the rehabilitative function of life imprisonment?

You can always impose life with a possibility of parole.

If it's not a real possibility of parole then it's not a rehabilitative sentence, but people who want her to be punished wouldn't be happy with a real possibility of parole.

[CoraSpia]

What is the rehabilitative function of life imprisonment?

Not sure if she can be rehabilitated. Such deeds are just too heinous. But at least she is won't be committing any crimes out there.

If the punishment doesn't have a rehabilitative value (which means a projected release date that's not so far in the future it's effectively a life sentence) then it shouldn't be on the books.