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Zess
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Postby Zess » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:15 pm

Liebendeland wrote:
Alleghennia wrote:Women can join the military.
They can train the exact same way.
Also, If she was Super Buff and she wasn't, She needs to train harder, You don't do Professional boxing if you got Spaghetti arms.

It's. A. Man. Fighting. A. Woman. Men are naturally stronger. It's so painfully obvious. It's cheating.

If they’re a trans female then I’ve got news for you. They aren’t a man.

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Ispravlennaja Tsekovija
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Postby Ispravlennaja Tsekovija » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:15 pm

Totalitarian Missouri wrote:
Ispravlennaja Tsekovija wrote:you think the government should continue to fund adoption/foster agencies that do not allow gay applicants, but also that they should be sued for doing so?? weird take.

Yes, Very, I live for Entertainment, and a Nation on fire is the best form of art, imo.
but if i am to answer Wholesomely, i think Homosexuals should be allowed to adopt.
even if their children turn out all screwed up. gives more room to laugh at people :p

oooookay then. i think you've watched the joker too many times
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Postby Rusozak » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:15 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Why should the children within the religious institution be harmed just because they are being adopted out by the religious institution? Why should a religious institution receive government funding for adoption if they discriminate in this way?

In the same way a conscientious objector can dodge the draft. I don't know the details, but if a Catholic org doesn't want same-sex couples to adopt a kid under their care, something equivalent to the kid's benefit must be done. As to how, I have no idea.


And that seems awfully subjective. I wouldn't trust a religious organization to know what's best for a child if they're barring same sex couples from adopting. Of course, removing religious organizations from having such authority in the first place would make it a non-issue.
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Totalitarian Missouri
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Postby Totalitarian Missouri » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:16 pm

Ispravlennaja Tsekovija wrote:
Totalitarian Missouri wrote:Yes, Very, I live for Entertainment, and a Nation on fire is the best form of art, imo.
but if i am to answer Wholesomely, i think Homosexuals should be allowed to adopt.
even if their children turn out all screwed up. gives more room to laugh at people :p

oooookay then. i think you've watched the joker too many times

Good movie, but im not the biggest fan of Comic books. Im more of a Patroness of the Arts, Kno
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Postby Alleghennia » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:17 pm

Liebendeland wrote:
Alleghennia wrote:Women can join the military.
They can train the exact same way.
Also, If she was Super Buff and she wasn't, She needs to train harder, You don't do Professional boxing if you got Spaghetti arms.

It's. A. Man. Fighting. A. Woman. Men are naturally stronger. It's so painfully obvious. It's cheating.

Thought she was Pretty clear, It' a Woman Fighting a Woman.
Alright, Bye now fr.
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Postby Totalitarian Missouri » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:18 pm

Alleghennia wrote:
Liebendeland wrote:It's. A. Man. Fighting. A. Woman. Men are naturally stronger. It's so painfully obvious. It's cheating.

Thought she was Pretty clear, It' a Woman Fighting a Woman.
Alright, Bye now fr.

Yikes
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:18 pm

Rusozak wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:In the same way a conscientious objector can dodge the draft. I don't know the details, but if a Catholic org doesn't want same-sex couples to adopt a kid under their care, something equivalent to the kid's benefit must be done. As to how, I have no idea.


And that seems awfully subjective. I wouldn't trust a religious organization to know what's best for a child if they're barring same sex couples from adopting. Of course, removing religious organizations from having such authority in the first place would make it a non-issue.

Especially when it explicitly harms the child. As shown in my many links children of SS couples have the same outcome as hetero-couples. Add to that the fact that children who remain in the foster care system have objectively worse outcomes and you have an issue where being adopted out by religious institution harms the child.
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Postby Totalitarian Missouri » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:19 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Rusozak wrote:
And that seems awfully subjective. I wouldn't trust a religious organization to know what's best for a child if they're barring same sex couples from adopting. Of course, removing religious organizations from having such authority in the first place would make it a non-issue.

Especially when it explicitly harms the child. As shown in my many links children of SS couples have the same outcome as hetero-couples. Add to that the fact that children who remain in the foster care system have objectively worse outcomes and you have an issue where being adopted out by religious institution harms the child.

Whaaaaat? I turned out just fine!
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:22 pm

Totalitarian Missouri wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Especially when it explicitly harms the child. As shown in my many links children of SS couples have the same outcome as hetero-couples. Add to that the fact that children who remain in the foster care system have objectively worse outcomes and you have an issue where being adopted out by religious institution harms the child.

Whaaaaat? I turned out just fine!


... :p
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Postby Liebendeland » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:27 pm

Zess wrote:
Liebendeland wrote:It's. A. Man. Fighting. A. Woman. Men are naturally stronger. It's so painfully obvious. It's cheating.

If they’re a trans female then I’ve got news for you. They aren’t a man.


Bruh. They were born a male and still have all of the perks of being male. They didn't get surgery to remove their muscles.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:28 pm

Liebendeland wrote:
Zess wrote:If they’re a trans female then I’ve got news for you. They aren’t a man.


Bruh. They were born a male and still have all of the perks of being male. They didn't get surgery to remove their muscles.


Transgender is not the topic of the thread.

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Zess
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Postby Zess » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:30 pm

Liebendeland wrote:
Zess wrote:If they’re a trans female then I’ve got news for you. They aren’t a man.


Bruh. They were born a male and still have all of the perks of being male. They didn't get surgery to remove their muscles.

Having a masculine physique does not make them male despite what you seem to think.

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Postby Totalitarian Missouri » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:32 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Totalitarian Missouri wrote:Whaaaaat? I turned out just fine!


... :p

I Know! I know... So Awful that me, God's Gift to Humanity who narrowly survived being killed in the Womb, Was left abandoned on the Hills outside of Rome for the Wolves to tear apart! The Heavens weep at this travesty! Oh! Oh! how Our Lord, God Cries of my Torment...!

Kno :p
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Postby Totalitarian Missouri » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:33 pm

Zess wrote:
Liebendeland wrote:
Bruh. They were born a male and still have all of the perks of being male. They didn't get surgery to remove their muscles.

Having a masculine physique does not make them male despite what you seem to think.

(Not the Thread topic. Big Mod Man gonna get Angry)
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Postby Liebendeland » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:39 pm

Zess wrote:
Liebendeland wrote:
Bruh. They were born a male and still have all of the perks of being male. They didn't get surgery to remove their muscles.

Having a masculine physique does not make them male despite what you seem to think.


They were literally born male and identified as a female.
Liebendeland is on a small island off the western Portuguese coast.
NS stats are canon unless anything stated elsewhere contradicts them.
Thank you to -Astoria- for helping with the code I used on the daily news thingamajigger.


BREAKING NEWS:
The Lights of Lux Litus quickly becomes the most successful newspaper service within a few weeks. | Corvusian forces amass for an invasion of Taninsia. | The Lowlands have been annexed and the election process has begun.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:40 pm

Liebendeland wrote:
Zess wrote:Having a masculine physique does not make them male despite what you seem to think.


They were literally born male and identified as a female.


And are not the topic of the thread.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:41 pm

Liebendeland wrote:
Zess wrote:Having a masculine physique does not make them male despite what you seem to think.


They were literally born male and identified as a female.

Instead of continuing the threadjacking why not answer to the numerous studies I have linked, and to the fact that I pointed out issues with your...link
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Postby Totalitarian Missouri » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:49 pm

Anyways, to Summarize, Yes I think Homosexuals should be allowed to Adopt. But for the Sake of Hilarity, Art, and Entertainment; this story is funny to me in an unobservably meta, and surrealist fashion.

Thank you For Coming to my TED talk. kno
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:50 pm

Totalitarian Missouri wrote:Anyways, to Summarize, Yes I think Homosexuals should be allowed to Adopt. But for the Sake of Hilarity, Art, and Entertainment; this story is funny to me in an observably meta, and surrealist fashion.

Thank you For Coming to my TED talk. kno


What in the world is funny about it?

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Postby Liebendeland » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:50 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Liebendeland wrote:
They were literally born male and identified as a female.

Instead of continuing the threadjacking why not answer to the numerous studies I have linked, and to the fact that I pointed out issues with your...link


My link is issue-free. Your opinion on the authors are meaningless.
Liebendeland is on a small island off the western Portuguese coast.
NS stats are canon unless anything stated elsewhere contradicts them.
Thank you to -Astoria- for helping with the code I used on the daily news thingamajigger.


BREAKING NEWS:
The Lights of Lux Litus quickly becomes the most successful newspaper service within a few weeks. | Corvusian forces amass for an invasion of Taninsia. | The Lowlands have been annexed and the election process has begun.

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Postby Totalitarian Missouri » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:51 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Totalitarian Missouri wrote:Anyways, to Summarize, Yes I think Homosexuals should be allowed to Adopt. But for the Sake of Hilarity, Art, and Entertainment; this story is funny to me in an observably meta, and surrealist fashion.

Thank you For Coming to my TED talk. kno


What in the world is funny about it?

I dunno, it just gives me a certain feels, you know? Anyways thats offtopic!
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:56 pm

Liebendeland wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Instead of continuing the threadjacking why not answer to the numerous studies I have linked, and to the fact that I pointed out issues with your...link


My link is issue-free. Your opinion on the authors are meaningless.

Your link sucks because it is not even an analysis. Hell, it barely even looks over the studies.
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Postby Vassenor » Tue Oct 26, 2021 12:58 pm

Liebendeland wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Instead of continuing the threadjacking why not answer to the numerous studies I have linked, and to the fact that I pointed out issues with your...link


My link is issue-free. Your opinion on the authors are meaningless.


If opinions on the authors are meaningless, perhaps you can comment on the actual substance of the studies provided for you then?
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Postby Diarcesia » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:00 pm

Totalitarian Missouri wrote:Anyways, to Summarize, Yes I think Homosexuals should be allowed to Adopt. But for the Sake of Hilarity, Art, and Entertainment; this story is funny to me in an unobservably meta, and surrealist fashion.

Thank you For Coming to my TED talk. kno

Totalitarian Missouri wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:I dunno about you but I rather be raised by two loving moms than an abusive mom and dad.

Yeah because Every Straight couple is Abusive, and Homosexuals Could Never Be abusive.

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Postby Totalitarian Missouri » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:04 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
Totalitarian Missouri wrote:Anyways, to Summarize, Yes I think Homosexuals should be allowed to Adopt. But for the Sake of Hilarity, Art, and Entertainment; this story is funny to me in an unobservably meta, and surrealist fashion.

Thank you For Coming to my TED talk. kno

Totalitarian Missouri wrote:Yeah because Every Straight couple is Abusive, and Homosexuals Could Never Be abusive.

Problem?
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