
by Gig em Aggies » Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:10 pm

by Uiiop » Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:13 pm
Gig em Aggies wrote:https://moguldom.com/366254/communist-group-black-hammer-is-building-ethnostate-on-200-acres-7-things-to-know/?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=msn-anaheim-us&utm_campaign=Hammer_Chrome_TB#tblciGiDLrP9mSo35PXOWCXW8DcDjLbVKGYaadWHfFYLKV5rZ4CCnvEIojM2H3c_V1rUF
A somewhat deluded Communist youtuber wants to build a Segregated POC only country on 200 acres of land somewhere in Colorado full funded by "guilty" white folks through a "Reparation's corps" scheme where they pay anywhere from $40 to $199 or donating there skills to a "nation" they can't live in while having all Colonized people of the world live in this state where he will provide “jobs, housing, food, and healthcare” while retaining a “no cops, no rent, no coronavirus” and “no white people”
My thoughts: the last thing we need is a self absorbed wannabe communist youtuber thinking he can create, manage, and fund a fully operational nation through guilt and donations. It's a sad day in America when people like him think they are better off in a segregated society that so many people during the mid 1900"s fought and died to abolish. plus it's also funny in a way he's using a Capitalist economy to raise funds to run his Segregated Communist Ethnostate and still calls Minorities of today colonized people when in fact most people were after the age of colonialism.

by Grinning Dragon » Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:25 pm
Gig em Aggies wrote:https://moguldom.com/366254/communist-group-black-hammer-is-building-ethnostate-on-200-acres-7-things-to-know/?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=msn-anaheim-us&utm_campaign=Hammer_Chrome_TB#tblciGiDLrP9mSo35PXOWCXW8DcDjLbVKGYaadWHfFYLKV5rZ4CCnvEIojM2H3c_V1rUF
A somewhat deluded Communist youtuber wants to build a Segregated POC only country on 200 acres of land somewhere in Colorado full funded by "guilty" white folks through a "Reparation's corps" scheme where they pay anywhere from $40 to $199 or donating there skills to a "nation" they can't live in while having all Colonized people of the world live in this state where he will provide “jobs, housing, food, and healthcare” while retaining a “no cops, no rent, no coronavirus” and “no white people”
My thoughts: the last thing we need is a self absorbed wannabe communist youtuber thinking he can create, manage, and fund a fully operational nation through guilt and donations. It's a sad day in America when people like him think they are better off in a segregated society that so many people during the mid 1900"s fought and died to abolish. plus it's also funny in a way he's using a Capitalist economy to raise funds to run his Segregated Communist Ethnostate and still calls Minorities of today colonized people when in fact most people were after the age of colonialism.

by New haven america » Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:30 pm
by Cannot think of a name » Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:44 pm

by Saiwania » Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:46 pm

by Uiiop » Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:51 pm
There's this incoherence in the cancel culture narrative where if we don't stop people with the wrong opinion it will gain institutional power if it hasn't already(The latter is proven by the fact no one is being punished).Cannot think of a name wrote:Okay, seriously, we need a threshold before 'someone on a social media platform said something batty' becomes newsworthy, and just below 50k isn't it. There are 350 million people in this country, on the '1 out of 5 dentists are cool with sugary gum' principle, you can find 50k people that would believe any sort of bullshit, that doesn't make a 'problem' or 'news'. These 1 out of 5 have always existed and people barely noticed because who gives a shit. But now people scour blogs, video hosting, and social media for these people and then amplify their voices under the guise of 'shining light on nutters' but instead inflates their importance.
I mean, on top of exaggerating the significance of someone who has 50k followers on YouTube because of the algorithms that control your access to the internet, it will keep showing you bullshit like that because it doesn't distinguish between 'rage' and 'interest', so then it creates in people the false impression that 'this stuff is rampant' instead of 'this shit has always been part of society and we don't need to chase down every goober in the world and instead focus on shit that matters.
I mean, I get the not-quite-Schadenfruede of finding someone coo coo for coco puffs that makes you feel better as a person, but we gotta start letting this shit go.
by Cannot think of a name » Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:53 pm
Uiiop wrote:There's this incoherence in the cancel culture narrative where if we don't stop people with the wrong opinion it will gain institutional power if it hasn't already(The latter is proven by the fact no one is being punished).Cannot think of a name wrote:Okay, seriously, we need a threshold before 'someone on a social media platform said something batty' becomes newsworthy, and just below 50k isn't it. There are 350 million people in this country, on the '1 out of 5 dentists are cool with sugary gum' principle, you can find 50k people that would believe any sort of bullshit, that doesn't make a 'problem' or 'news'. These 1 out of 5 have always existed and people barely noticed because who gives a shit. But now people scour blogs, video hosting, and social media for these people and then amplify their voices under the guise of 'shining light on nutters' but instead inflates their importance.
I mean, on top of exaggerating the significance of someone who has 50k followers on YouTube because of the algorithms that control your access to the internet, it will keep showing you bullshit like that because it doesn't distinguish between 'rage' and 'interest', so then it creates in people the false impression that 'this stuff is rampant' instead of 'this shit has always been part of society and we don't need to chase down every goober in the world and instead focus on shit that matters.
I mean, I get the not-quite-Schadenfruede of finding someone coo coo for coco puffs that makes you feel better as a person, but we gotta start letting this shit go.
If they agreed with the paradox of tolerance that'll be one of thing but they still outright says everything is on the cards except the things their offended by. The conspiratorial thoguht declaring the ideologies that offend them to not really be free speech but dictated secretly by the state is effectively all about resolving this dissonance.

by Uiiop » Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:58 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Uiiop wrote: There's this incoherence in the cancel culture narrative where if we don't stop people with the wrong opinion it will gain institutional power if it hasn't already(The latter is proven by the fact no one is being punished).
If they agreed with the paradox of tolerance that'll be one of thing but they still outright says everything is on the cards except the things their offended by. The conspiratorial thoguht declaring the ideologies that offend them to not really be free speech but dictated secretly by the state is effectively all about resolving this dissonance.
Not really where I was going with that, but this is the internet...
by Cannot think of a name » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:02 pm
Uiiop wrote:Cannot think of a name wrote:Not really where I was going with that, but this is the internet...
I think the answer to your implicit question of "Why do people care about idiots who don't actually do anything?" is "Because society teaches us that 'canceling' mere opinion is an moral imperative even if call out the behavior under other circumstances".

by Vistulange » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:03 pm
Gig em Aggies wrote:My thoughts: the last thing we need is a self absorbed wannabe communist youtuber thinking he can create, manage, and fund a fully operational nation through guilt and donations.
Cannot think of a name wrote:Okay, seriously, we need a threshold before 'someone on a social media platform said something batty' becomes newsworthy, and just below 50k isn't it.

by Mercatus » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:04 pm

by Uiiop » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:07 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Uiiop wrote:I think the answer to your implicit question of "Why do people care about idiots who don't actually do anything?" is "Because society teaches us that 'canceling' mere opinion is an moral imperative even if call out the behavior under other circumstances".
'kay. No. There was nothing in there about 'cancel culture' except in maybe freaking out about people trying to 'cancel someone' often falls into the category of 'someone with two thousand followers on Twitter said a thing and now that tweet is in some clickbait article trying to imply that 'cancel culture' is out of hand despite their heavy, heavy role in creating that impression. That's your whole...thing.
by Cannot think of a name » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:07 pm
Mercatus wrote:Wouldn’t take much except a redneck or two with a pickup truck and a few rifles between them to take over their “country”.

by Vistulange » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:08 pm
by Cannot think of a name » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:09 pm
Uiiop wrote:Cannot think of a name wrote:'kay. No. There was nothing in there about 'cancel culture' except in maybe freaking out about people trying to 'cancel someone' often falls into the category of 'someone with two thousand followers on Twitter said a thing and now that tweet is in some clickbait article trying to imply that 'cancel culture' is out of hand despite their heavy, heavy role in creating that impression. That's your whole...thing.
What would call what happened to James Gunn? Mob bullshit? fair enough.
There's a reason i put that thing in quotation marks. Those terms including PC and CRT are just theft from black and leftist circles contorted to re-hash dumb rightist interpretations of that phenomenon. You don't like the names because of that ? That's 100% fair but any other name for these things is just going to be misused under the rights mic to only mean what they want to mean.
But maybe Mob bullshit is bland enough to avoid that. Let's use it.

by Uiiop » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:12 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Uiiop wrote:What would call what happened to James Gunn? Mob bullshit? fair enough.
There's a reason i put that thing in quotation marks. Those terms including PC and CRT are just theft from black and leftist circles contorted to re-hash dumb rightist interpretations of that phenomenon. You don't like the names because of that ? That's 100% fair but any other name for these things is just going to be misused under the rights mic to only mean what they want to mean.
But maybe Mob bullshit is bland enough to avoid that. Let's use it.
See, you don't need to quote me for any of this because once again, this is your own whole...thing...and really doesn't have anything to do except maybe tangentially with what I was talking about. You can just post and rattle your sabers without quoting someone. You can even make whole threads. You don't have to involve me at all.

by The Sherpa Empire » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:46 pm

by Uiiop » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:47 pm
Herador wrote:Is there any reason I should care what some weirdo with a microscopically popular platform thinks?
by Alcala-Cordel » Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:01 pm

by Great Algerstonia » Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:30 pm
Resilient Acceleration wrote:After a period of letting this discussion run its course without my involvement due to sheer laziness and a new related NS project, I have returned with an answer and that answer is Israel.
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