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Youtuber wants Ethnostate in Colorado

Postby Gig em Aggies » Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:10 pm

https://moguldom.com/366254/communist-g ... 2H3c_V1rUF

A somewhat deluded Communist youtuber wants to build a Segregated POC only country on 200 acres of land somewhere in Colorado full funded by "guilty" white folks through a "Reparation's corps" scheme where they pay anywhere from $40 to $199 or donating there skills to a "nation" they can't live in while having all Colonized people of the world live in this state where he will provide “jobs, housing, food, and healthcare” while retaining a “no cops, no rent, no coronavirus” and “no white people”


My thoughts: the last thing we need is a self absorbed wannabe communist youtuber thinking he can create, manage, and fund a fully operational nation through guilt and donations. It's a sad day in America when people like him think they are better off in a segregated society that so many people during the mid 1900"s fought and died to abolish. plus it's also funny in a way he's using a Capitalist economy to raise funds to run his Segregated Communist Ethnostate and still calls Minorities of today colonized people when in fact most people were after the age of colonialism.
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Postby Uiiop » Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:13 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:https://moguldom.com/366254/communist-group-black-hammer-is-building-ethnostate-on-200-acres-7-things-to-know/?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=msn-anaheim-us&utm_campaign=Hammer_Chrome_TB#tblciGiDLrP9mSo35PXOWCXW8DcDjLbVKGYaadWHfFYLKV5rZ4CCnvEIojM2H3c_V1rUF

A somewhat deluded Communist youtuber wants to build a Segregated POC only country on 200 acres of land somewhere in Colorado full funded by "guilty" white folks through a "Reparation's corps" scheme where they pay anywhere from $40 to $199 or donating there skills to a "nation" they can't live in while having all Colonized people of the world live in this state where he will provide “jobs, housing, food, and healthcare” while retaining a “no cops, no rent, no coronavirus” and “no white people”


My thoughts: the last thing we need is a self absorbed wannabe communist youtuber thinking he can create, manage, and fund a fully operational nation through guilt and donations. It's a sad day in America when people like him think they are better off in a segregated society that so many people during the mid 1900"s fought and died to abolish. plus it's also funny in a way he's using a Capitalist economy to raise funds to run his Segregated Communist Ethnostate and still calls Minorities of today colonized people when in fact most people were after the age of colonialism.

The group's already dead go home.
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:25 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:https://moguldom.com/366254/communist-group-black-hammer-is-building-ethnostate-on-200-acres-7-things-to-know/?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=msn-anaheim-us&utm_campaign=Hammer_Chrome_TB#tblciGiDLrP9mSo35PXOWCXW8DcDjLbVKGYaadWHfFYLKV5rZ4CCnvEIojM2H3c_V1rUF

A somewhat deluded Communist youtuber wants to build a Segregated POC only country on 200 acres of land somewhere in Colorado full funded by "guilty" white folks through a "Reparation's corps" scheme where they pay anywhere from $40 to $199 or donating there skills to a "nation" they can't live in while having all Colonized people of the world live in this state where he will provide “jobs, housing, food, and healthcare” while retaining a “no cops, no rent, no coronavirus” and “no white people”


My thoughts: the last thing we need is a self absorbed wannabe communist youtuber thinking he can create, manage, and fund a fully operational nation through guilt and donations. It's a sad day in America when people like him think they are better off in a segregated society that so many people during the mid 1900"s fought and died to abolish. plus it's also funny in a way he's using a Capitalist economy to raise funds to run his Segregated Communist Ethnostate and still calls Minorities of today colonized people when in fact most people were after the age of colonialism.


The guy is an idiot and pretty sure his parents are idiots as well, along with the rise of social media has lent a megaphone to the nutters.

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Postby New haven america » Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:30 pm

They picked an absolute shit spot to build it.

By all means, go right ahead.

But also, the group died out like, a year ago, so...
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:44 pm

Okay, seriously, we need a threshold before 'someone on a social media platform said something batty' becomes newsworthy, and just below 50k isn't it. There are 350 million people in this country, on the '1 out of 5 dentists are cool with sugary gum' principle, you can find 50k people that would believe any sort of bullshit, that doesn't make a 'problem' or 'news'. These 1 out of 5 have always existed and people barely noticed because who gives a shit. But now people scour blogs, video hosting, and social media for these people and then amplify their voices under the guise of 'shining light on nutters' but instead inflates their importance.

I mean, on top of exaggerating the significance of someone who has 50k followers on YouTube because of the algorithms that control your access to the internet, it will keep showing you bullshit like that because it doesn't distinguish between 'rage' and 'interest', so then it creates in people the false impression that 'this stuff is rampant' instead of 'this shit has always been part of society and we don't need to chase down every goober in the world and instead focus on shit that matters.

I mean, I get the not-quite-Schadenfruede of finding someone coo coo for coco puffs that makes you feel better as a person, but we gotta start letting this shit go.
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Postby Saiwania » Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:46 pm

Well, now that it is supposedly not happening, my guess is that the property tax on the 200 acres of land will just never be paid and it'll transfer to the US government or Colorado's state government by default. If there were someone left to hold onto it, is it worth keeping if its not very suitable for development? It seems it'd be quite a long time before it ever appreciates if it does. For all that time, it'd be a tax burden; but maybe not a huge one if the land's worth is assessed to be low.
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Postby Uiiop » Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:51 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:Okay, seriously, we need a threshold before 'someone on a social media platform said something batty' becomes newsworthy, and just below 50k isn't it. There are 350 million people in this country, on the '1 out of 5 dentists are cool with sugary gum' principle, you can find 50k people that would believe any sort of bullshit, that doesn't make a 'problem' or 'news'. These 1 out of 5 have always existed and people barely noticed because who gives a shit. But now people scour blogs, video hosting, and social media for these people and then amplify their voices under the guise of 'shining light on nutters' but instead inflates their importance.

I mean, on top of exaggerating the significance of someone who has 50k followers on YouTube because of the algorithms that control your access to the internet, it will keep showing you bullshit like that because it doesn't distinguish between 'rage' and 'interest', so then it creates in people the false impression that 'this stuff is rampant' instead of 'this shit has always been part of society and we don't need to chase down every goober in the world and instead focus on shit that matters.

I mean, I get the not-quite-Schadenfruede of finding someone coo coo for coco puffs that makes you feel better as a person, but we gotta start letting this shit go.
There's this incoherence in the cancel culture narrative where if we don't stop people with the wrong opinion it will gain institutional power if it hasn't already(The latter is proven by the fact no one is being punished).

If they agreed with the paradox of tolerance that'll be one thing but they still outright says everything is on the cards except the things they're offended by. The conspiratorial thought declaring the ideologies that offend them to not really be free speech but dictated secretly by the state is effectively all about resolving this dissonance.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:53 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Okay, seriously, we need a threshold before 'someone on a social media platform said something batty' becomes newsworthy, and just below 50k isn't it. There are 350 million people in this country, on the '1 out of 5 dentists are cool with sugary gum' principle, you can find 50k people that would believe any sort of bullshit, that doesn't make a 'problem' or 'news'. These 1 out of 5 have always existed and people barely noticed because who gives a shit. But now people scour blogs, video hosting, and social media for these people and then amplify their voices under the guise of 'shining light on nutters' but instead inflates their importance.

I mean, on top of exaggerating the significance of someone who has 50k followers on YouTube because of the algorithms that control your access to the internet, it will keep showing you bullshit like that because it doesn't distinguish between 'rage' and 'interest', so then it creates in people the false impression that 'this stuff is rampant' instead of 'this shit has always been part of society and we don't need to chase down every goober in the world and instead focus on shit that matters.

I mean, I get the not-quite-Schadenfruede of finding someone coo coo for coco puffs that makes you feel better as a person, but we gotta start letting this shit go.
There's this incoherence in the cancel culture narrative where if we don't stop people with the wrong opinion it will gain institutional power if it hasn't already(The latter is proven by the fact no one is being punished).

If they agreed with the paradox of tolerance that'll be one of thing but they still outright says everything is on the cards except the things their offended by. The conspiratorial thoguht declaring the ideologies that offend them to not really be free speech but dictated secretly by the state is effectively all about resolving this dissonance.

Not really where I was going with that, but this is the internet...
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby Uiiop » Sun Oct 17, 2021 6:58 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Uiiop wrote: There's this incoherence in the cancel culture narrative where if we don't stop people with the wrong opinion it will gain institutional power if it hasn't already(The latter is proven by the fact no one is being punished).

If they agreed with the paradox of tolerance that'll be one of thing but they still outright says everything is on the cards except the things their offended by. The conspiratorial thoguht declaring the ideologies that offend them to not really be free speech but dictated secretly by the state is effectively all about resolving this dissonance.

Not really where I was going with that, but this is the internet...

I think the answer to your implicit question of "Why do people care about idiots who don't actually do anything?" is "Because society teaches us that 'canceling' mere opinion is an moral imperative even if call out the behavior under other circumstances".
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:02 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Not really where I was going with that, but this is the internet...

I think the answer to your implicit question of "Why do people care about idiots who don't actually do anything?" is "Because society teaches us that 'canceling' mere opinion is an moral imperative even if call out the behavior under other circumstances".

'kay. No. There was nothing in there about 'cancel culture' except in maybe freaking out about people trying to 'cancel someone' often falls into the category of 'someone with two thousand followers on Twitter said a thing and now that tweet is in some clickbait article trying to imply that 'cancel culture' is out of hand despite their heavy, heavy role in creating that impression. That's your whole...thing.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Postby Vistulange » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:03 pm

Gig em Aggies wrote:My thoughts: the last thing we need is a self absorbed wannabe communist youtuber thinking he can create, manage, and fund a fully operational nation through guilt and donations.


Nah, there are a lot of other things we don't need to happen before we even start to see this one anywhere near the list. To quote a fellow user:

Cannot think of a name wrote:Okay, seriously, we need a threshold before 'someone on a social media platform said something batty' becomes newsworthy, and just below 50k isn't it.

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Postby Uiiop » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:07 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Uiiop wrote:I think the answer to your implicit question of "Why do people care about idiots who don't actually do anything?" is "Because society teaches us that 'canceling' mere opinion is an moral imperative even if call out the behavior under other circumstances".

'kay. No. There was nothing in there about 'cancel culture' except in maybe freaking out about people trying to 'cancel someone' often falls into the category of 'someone with two thousand followers on Twitter said a thing and now that tweet is in some clickbait article trying to imply that 'cancel culture' is out of hand despite their heavy, heavy role in creating that impression. That's your whole...thing.

What would call what happened to James Gunn? Mob bullshit? fair enough.

There's a reason i put that thing in quotation marks. Those terms including PC and CRT are just theft from black and leftist circles contorted to re-hash dumb rightist interpretations of that phenomenon. You don't like the names because of that ? That's 100% fair but any other name for these things is just going to be misused under the rights mic to only mean what they want to mean.

But maybe Mob bullshit is bland enough to avoid that. Let's use it.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:07 pm

Mercatus wrote:Wouldn’t take much except a redneck or two with a pickup truck and a few rifles between them to take over their “country”.

Racists really need to settle on whether minorities are scary or ineffective. I'm getting whiplash.
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Cannot think of a name wrote:
Mercatus wrote:Wouldn’t take much except a redneck or two with a pickup truck and a few rifles between them to take over their “country”.

Racists really need to settle on whether minorities are scary or ineffective. I'm getting whiplash.

To be honest, I think everybody would be in agreement regarding an ethnostate smaller than Monaco being absolutely ineffective and nowhere near scary, but yeah, you're quite right.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:09 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:'kay. No. There was nothing in there about 'cancel culture' except in maybe freaking out about people trying to 'cancel someone' often falls into the category of 'someone with two thousand followers on Twitter said a thing and now that tweet is in some clickbait article trying to imply that 'cancel culture' is out of hand despite their heavy, heavy role in creating that impression. That's your whole...thing.

What would call what happened to James Gunn? Mob bullshit? fair enough.

There's a reason i put that thing in quotation marks. Those terms including PC and CRT are just theft from black and leftist circles contorted to re-hash dumb rightist interpretations of that phenomenon. You don't like the names because of that ? That's 100% fair but any other name for these things is just going to be misused under the rights mic to only mean what they want to mean.

But maybe Mob bullshit is bland enough to avoid that. Let's use it.

See, you don't need to quote me for any of this because once again, this is your own whole...thing...and really doesn't have anything to do except maybe tangentially with what I was talking about. You can just post and rattle your sabers without quoting someone. You can even make whole threads. You don't have to involve me at all.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:11 pm

So eager to dunk on the left that I post a months old article from some cryptocurrency news site about some now-defunct and then-irrelevant group of people.

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Cannot think of a name wrote:
Uiiop wrote:What would call what happened to James Gunn? Mob bullshit? fair enough.

There's a reason i put that thing in quotation marks. Those terms including PC and CRT are just theft from black and leftist circles contorted to re-hash dumb rightist interpretations of that phenomenon. You don't like the names because of that ? That's 100% fair but any other name for these things is just going to be misused under the rights mic to only mean what they want to mean.

But maybe Mob bullshit is bland enough to avoid that. Let's use it.

See, you don't need to quote me for any of this because once again, this is your own whole...thing...and really doesn't have anything to do except maybe tangentially with what I was talking about. You can just post and rattle your sabers without quoting someone. You can even make whole threads. You don't have to involve me at all.

I wasn't really coming at you for anything. Like i said your positions is very fair under current conditions. It just helped me out in my head break down what's the issue with this op.

I mean for the record this group still somewhat exists but the fact you cited something from august about this when there's already news of things breaking down makes the OP pretty dumb.
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Postby Herador » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:37 pm

Is there any reason I should care what some weirdo with a microscopically popular platform thinks?
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So why are you giving this bloke free publicity?
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Postby Uiiop » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:47 pm

Herador wrote:Is there any reason I should care what some weirdo with a microscopically popular platform thinks?

Conflation of what he wants and what "Progressives" want. That's pretty much it.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:50 pm

The Sherpa Empire wrote:So why are you giving this bloke free publicity?

Dunks.

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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:01 pm

That's weird, but also irrelevant so idk why I should care. Besides, they don't exist anymore so idk why we're talking about it
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Great feeling when even reading the OP was a waste of my time.

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