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Who do you support?

Bongbong Marcos(PFP)
9
15%
Isko Moreno(Aksyon)
6
10%
Manny Pacquiao(PROMDI)
2
3%
Leni Robredo(Ind/Liberal)
28
45%
Panfilo Lacson(Reporma/NPC)
2
3%
Ernesto Abella(Ind.)
1
2%
Ka Leody De Guzman(PLM)
13
21%
Other(Let us know!)
1
2%
 
Total votes : 62

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Postby Pasong Tirad » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:35 am

Diahon wrote:
Are you trying to say that the government doesn't support Duterte's redtagging campaign in the way they did for the drug war?

no, i'm asking if there is popular support for the redtagging duts is doing, as there obviously is for the drug war

Both are reprehensible campaigns that have led to thousands dead. Trying to argue that one is worse because of its body count is not a great idea

and that also isn't what i'm saying

i'm saying that popular support for extrajudicial killings carried out by the government can encourage or discourage further sprees of bloody murder

there obviously is or has been wide support for the drug war, whether or not the drug problem is as advertised -- not so much for the redtagging, given the obvious state of the communist left in this country

There is absolutely a lot of public support for the redtagging. The hundreds or thousands of activists killed during the last five years didn't just come from nowhere. Please read the links I sent you. Or widen your social media net so you can observe the sheer amount of folks (bots or otherwise) who have fallen for the decades of anticommunist propaganda fed to them.

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Postby Diahon » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:38 am

haven't read them yet, will read them in due course -- i mean, what time is it? a little past 4:30pm

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Postby Pasong Tirad » Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:42 am

Diahon wrote:haven't read them yet, will read them in due course -- i mean, what time is it? a little past 4:30pm

Cool. While you're at it consider reading Ka Leody and Ka Walden's platform it'll only take like two minutes, you might like it too.

Of course, I don't expect you to change your vote away from Robredo (assuming you're of voting age). But it's a good read nonetheless.

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Postby Kubra » Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:01 am

Diahon wrote:i'm inclined to split hairs between the bodies produced if there's popular support or at least an inclination to buy into the government's claims that they're militantly red who are thus better off dead

that worked in the seventies and eighties, especially considering a communist insurgency that the marcos government fueled

not so much in this tragicomedy duts has attempted, to my own observation

so instead of a populace willing to turn a blind eye if not support reprisals against enemies of the state, there is instead opposition

that's the line that i draw between the redtagging and the drug hunting before it -- the government did have palpable support for its antidrug campaign, in ways that i don't see with the redtagging, even if my view can be jaundiced
pretty much every pre-duterte administration turned a blind eye to the killing of "reds". It is only, like, a *thing* now because for one thing an increase of extrajudicial killings in general is gonna mean an increase in particular forms of the stuff, and Duterte being, you know, not quite popular with certain sections of folks in a way that previous administrations weren't. Once he's gone, there's no reason not to suggest a return to good, clean, acceptable levels of disappearing mysteriously in the night.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:08 am

Kubra wrote:
Diahon wrote:i'm inclined to split hairs between the bodies produced if there's popular support or at least an inclination to buy into the government's claims that they're militantly red who are thus better off dead

that worked in the seventies and eighties, especially considering a communist insurgency that the marcos government fueled

not so much in this tragicomedy duts has attempted, to my own observation

so instead of a populace willing to turn a blind eye if not support reprisals against enemies of the state, there is instead opposition

that's the line that i draw between the redtagging and the drug hunting before it -- the government did have palpable support for its antidrug campaign, in ways that i don't see with the redtagging, even if my view can be jaundiced
pretty much every pre-duterte administration turned a blind eye to the killing of "reds". It is only, like, a *thing* now because for one thing an increase of extrajudicial killings in general is gonna mean an increase in particular forms of the stuff, and Duterte being, you know, not quite popular with certain sections of folks in a way that previous administrations weren't. Once he's gone, there's no reason not to suggest a return to good, clean, acceptable levels of disappearing mysteriously in the night.


As I see it, it'll just go up further still should Marcos becomes President, and both Dutertes seem inclined that he should become so.
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:45 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Kubra wrote: pretty much every pre-duterte administration turned a blind eye to the killing of "reds". It is only, like, a *thing* now because for one thing an increase of extrajudicial killings in general is gonna mean an increase in particular forms of the stuff, and Duterte being, you know, not quite popular with certain sections of folks in a way that previous administrations weren't. Once he's gone, there's no reason not to suggest a return to good, clean, acceptable levels of disappearing mysteriously in the night.


As I see it, it'll just go up further still should Marcos becomes President, and both Dutertes seem inclined that he should become so.

Almost every single presidential candidate is pretty much committed to continuing the killing of those suspected to be communists, their sympathizers and innocent people who support progressive causes like not letting Canadian mining company X destroy this forest or not letting Business Owner Y literally pay hundreds of pesos a month per person. This includes Robredo.

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Postby Feyrisshire » Tue Oct 26, 2021 10:10 pm

Out of all the candidates, Ka Leody de Guzman definitely has the best platform and the most progressive and concrete in actually helping to solve the problems of the country.

The problem however is that there is no way he is going to win as no businessman would ever donate campaign funds to him as his platform is literally a middle finger to all the businessmen running the country.

I would cautiously vote for either Leni Robredo or Isko Moreno, not because Leni or Isko is good as they will just continue decades of neoliberalism but to prevent a Duterte-Marcos presidency which would be the worst of the worst.

I will still support Leody de Guzman's campaign as a call to action, but as I see it there is simply no chance that he is going to win in the current condition.

Pasong Tirad wrote:From the "Pulso ng Pilipino" (Pulse of the FIlipino) survey by the Issues & Advocacy Center. This poll assumes that Bato Dela Rosa isn't just a placeholder for Sara Duterte. We also have a surprise eighth candidate in the poll: Norberto Gonzales, former Secretary of National Defense for former President Gloria Arroyo, running as the candidate of the Partido Demokratiko Sosyalista ng Pilipinas (Philippine Democratic Socialist Party).


What is "Pulso ng Pilipino" and how do their methods differ from Pulse Asia and SWS? I find it suspicious that their results are radically different than that from Pulse Asia and SWS

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Postby Pasong Tirad » Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:26 am

Feyrisshire wrote:Out of all the candidates, Ka Leody de Guzman definitely has the best platform and the most progressive and concrete in actually helping to solve the problems of the country.

The problem however is that there is no way he is going to win as no businessman would ever donate campaign funds to him as his platform is literally a middle finger to all the businessmen running the country.

I would cautiously vote for either Leni Robredo or Isko Moreno, not because Leni or Isko is good as they will just continue decades of neoliberalism but to prevent a Duterte-Marcos presidency which would be the worst of the worst.

I will still support Leody de Guzman's campaign as a call to action, but as I see it there is simply no chance that he is going to win in the current condition.

Pasong Tirad wrote:From the "Pulso ng Pilipino" (Pulse of the FIlipino) survey by the Issues & Advocacy Center. This poll assumes that Bato Dela Rosa isn't just a placeholder for Sara Duterte. We also have a surprise eighth candidate in the poll: Norberto Gonzales, former Secretary of National Defense for former President Gloria Arroyo, running as the candidate of the Partido Demokratiko Sosyalista ng Pilipinas (Philippine Democratic Socialist Party).


What is "Pulso ng Pilipino" and how do their methods differ from Pulse Asia and SWS? I find it suspicious that their results are radically different than that from Pulse Asia and SWS

Not an expert on statistics in any way so you're going to have to ask someone else, just thought I'd share one of the first polls regarding the matter. I believe Shrilland also shared a poll by Publicus Asia a couple pages back.

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Postby Republic Of Ludwigsburg » Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:32 pm

Diahon wrote:
Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:Oh, i was just talking to a filipino about duterte, strange eh?

what's so strange about it? if the guy's even remotely connected, has even a passing ìnterest on the goings-on, and knows there'll be elections next year, why won't they bring it up?

Jeez, I was just saying my opinion on it
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Thu Oct 28, 2021 5:07 am

Republic Of Ludwigsburg wrote:
Diahon wrote:what's so strange about it? if the guy's even remotely connected, has even a passing ìnterest on the goings-on, and knows there'll be elections next year, why won't they bring it up?

Jeez, I was just saying my opinion on it

You haven't actually stated any kind of opinion on anything. You said you found it strange that a Filipino friend mentioned Duterte, and Diahon remarked that that shouldn't be strange at all considering he's literally the president.

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Postby Pasong Tirad » Fri Oct 29, 2021 7:09 pm

Good morning from Metro Manila. Some of the latest news from the past day or so:

Comelec releases tentative list of candidates for 2022 polls

Among the notable aspirants for the Malacañang are:

  • Vice President Leni Robredo
  • Senator Manny Pacquiao
  • Senator Ping Lacson
  • Senator Ronald "Bato" Dela Rosa
  • Manila Mayor Isko Moreno
  • Former senator and dictator's son Ferdinand "Bongbong" Marcos Jr.
  • Former presidential spokesman Ernesto Abella
  • Former defense chief Norberto Gonzales
  • Labor leader Leody De Guzman


List almost definitely isn't final. I expect at least one or two of those names to drop out or get substituted.

Bato confirms offering PDP standard bearer slot to Sara during Davao meeting

PDP-Laban standard bearer and Senator Ronald “Bato” dela Rosa on Friday confirmed that he offered his slot to Davao City Mayor Sara Duterte during his visit at her office last Monday.

Dela Rosa told GMA News Online he saw “hope in her eyes” when he offered the PDP-Laban standard bearer slot to Sara.

“(She had) no definite answer (to my offer), but I saw hope in her eyes,” Dela Rosa said in a Viber message.

Asked if this means Sara is open to taking his offer, Dela Rosa said “yes.”


I still don't know whether this signals that Sara Duterte might run but it's looking a lot more likely since Bato has once again just shown the country his bare ass by proving he's just a placeholder until the party can figure out what it wants to do.

Robredo's anti-drug plan: Heavy on prevention, rehab not 'kill, kill, kill'

Vice President Leni Robredo said there would still be an intensified campaign against illegal drugs if she wins the presidential race in 2022, but she would focus more on prevention and rehabilitation and not only on enforcement.

Talking to reporters in Sorsogon City on Friday, October 29, the opposition leader noted that President Rodrigo Duterte’s enforcement-heavy drug war has led to thousands of deaths but has still failed to eradicate the drug menace in the country.

Robredo – one of the loudest voices against Duterte’s violent war on drugs – reiterated her proposal for a more holistic approach in addressing the drug problem. This formed part of her recommendations to reform the drug war during her brief stint as co-chair of the Inter-Agency Committee on Anti-Illegal Drugs (ICAD) in late 2020.


Pacquiao vows justice for Martial Law victims if elected president

Senator Manny Pacquiao said that the atrocities during Martial Law should not be forgotten, and that he would ensure that victims of the Marcos regime would get the justice they deserve if he would be elected president.

Pacquiao made the statement in an interview with the media in Cebu City on Thursday, October 28, after he laid a wreath at the commemorative marker of human rights advocate Father Rudy Romano, a Marcos critic who was abducted during the regime of the late dictator Ferdinand Marcos and was never found since.

During his stopover at Romano's marker, Pacquiao's supporters held up signs that said "#NeverAgain" – in reference to the Marcos years, known as a dark chapter in Philippine history.

Asked why he decided to honor Romano, Pacquiao said in Filipino that his visit "symbolized" Filipinos' right to free speech.

On whether he was there to send a message that he would hold accountable those responsible for Martial Law atrocities, Pacquiao reiterated in Filipino that that rights should be respected, and that everyone should speak out and live "freely without fear."


'Not vote buying': Pacquiao to stop cash aid only when campaign period starts

Presidential aspirant Senator Manny Pacquiao, known for his generosity to the poor, said that he would only stop giving out cash aid and relief packs once the campaign period starts in February 2022.

In a media interview during his visit to vote-rich Cebu, Pacquiao reiterated his earlier pronouncement that he has been charitable since he rose to fame. He made the statement when asked about the issue of vote buying supposedly through dole outs.

"This is not vote buying – I've been really helping out from way back until now. This will only stop when we start campaigning on February 8. While the campaign period has yet to start, we will continue helping out; lot of people are hungry."


Leody: All presidential aspirants, except Robredo, ‘Duterte enablers’

Labor leader and presidential aspirant Leody de Guzman said Vice President Leni Robredo was the only presidential aspirant who has not been an enabler of President Rodrigo Duterte.

"It’s the reality, Jairo, that of all the presidential aspirants running, only VP Leni has not become an enabler of President Duterte. All of them were supporters of Duterte’s orders, of the president’s program, for more than five years."

De Guzman runs under his party, Partido Lakas ng Masa, alongside retired professor Walden Bello. The two seek to be elected as top officials to promote “systemic change" and fight what they dubbed as the “Marcos-Duterte axis of evil.”
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:11 am

Duterte daughter quits mayor race as Philippine election deadline looms

The daughter of Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte on Tuesday removed herself from the running for mayor of Davao City, just days away from a deadline to change candidates for a presidential election next year.

Sara Duterte-Carpio, who has been widely tipped to run to succeed her father, did not say why she was withdrawing from the mayor contest, but told supporters on Facebook that further announcements would be made later.

The 43-year-old has come top in opinion polls throughout this year on preferred candidates for president, but has said she does not want that job.

The Philippines holds elections in May 2022 for positions from the level of president down to governors, mayors and local officials. The window for changing candidates expires on Nov. 15.

"This afternoon I am withdrawing my candidacy for mayor of Davao City," she said, announcing her brother Sebastian, her vice mayor, will run instead.

Duterte-Carpio has repeatedly said was not interested in running for president, but recently expressed willingness to forge an alliance with another presidential candidate, Ferdinand "Bongbong" Marcos Jr, the controversial son and namesake of the late dictator who was overthrown in 1986.


Bong Go hints at withdrawing VP bid, cites Duterte's wish

Vice presidential aspirant Senator Bong Go hinted that his plans in the 2022 elections might change because of President Rodrigo Duterte's wishes, signaling that there would be a reshuffle within the administration camp.

In a Malasakit Center event on Tuesday, November 9, an emotional Go said he could not anything about this, even if he wants to serve as vice president.

"My candidacy for vice president may change. We can't prevent changes in politics – that, as I said, is very dirty. I want to serve my countrymen in this capacity but there will be changes and I can't do anything about it."

His voice breaking as he spoke, Go added: "Because this is the President's wish, I need to change courses. You will know it in the coming days."

It will be recalled that the divided PDP-Laban wanted Go to be its standard-bearer for the high-stakes 2022 polls. President Rodrigo Duterte's last-minute decision to "retire" from politics pushed Go to run for vice presidency in his stead.

About an hour earlier from Go's speech, Davao City Mayor Sara Duterte withdrew her candidacy for mayor. Various camps have expected this move as they speculate that she will be running for a national post.

The deadline for substitution of candidates is on Monday, November 15. It remains to be seen if Go will be running for a different post or if Sara Duterte will be gunning for a national post.

But Sara Duterte, so far, has met with presidential bets Bongbong Marcos and PDP-Laban standard-bearer Ronald "Bato" dela Rosa.

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Postby The V I C » Tue Nov 09, 2021 6:47 am

Is Filipino election turnout high or do people there understand that there's not much of a point in voting, seeing as how all of the major parties are more like criminal enterprises than political parties? I'm not a fan of electoral politics in general in many places, but the more I read about the main contenders in this election and the parties behind them, the less thrilled I feel.
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Postby Diahon » Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:23 pm

The V I C wrote:Is Filipino election turnout high or do people there understand that there's not much of a point in voting, seeing as how all of the major parties are more like criminal enterprises than political parties? I'm not a fan of electoral politics in general in many places, but the more I read about the main contenders in this election and the parties behind them, the less thrilled I feel.

we're real avid voters, yes

as to what motivates my compatriots after three and a half decades, i confess to confusion

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Postby Pasong Tirad » Wed Nov 10, 2021 1:13 am

The V I C wrote:Is Filipino election turnout high or do people there understand that there's not much of a point in voting, seeing as how all of the major parties are more like criminal enterprises than political parties? I'm not a fan of electoral politics in general in many places, but the more I read about the main contenders in this election and the parties behind them, the less thrilled I feel.

In terms of elections in general, post-Marcos the lowest turnout was in 2007, when it was around 65 percent. For presidential, the lowest turnout was in 2010 at around 74 percent.

A lot of factors play into the high voter turnout, including the fact that election day is always declared a special non-working holiday. A bit concerning that this isn't done by law, but by executive decree, but that's another matter. Second factor is the ability of people working in essential industries - security, hospitals, etc. - to vote early.

It should be noted that voter turnout can and should be higher. Passing legislation making it official that election day is a holiday is one thing. Making voter registration automatic is another, as the current system where folks have to line up, sometimes for hours, during the work week to be registered is very difficult and very anti-poor.

With regards to why folks keep voting, there are a lot of possible theories. One that really makes sense to me is because of populism.

Marco Garrido, writing for the American Journal of Sociology in 2017, pointed out that a lot of lower-income people were very much drawn to Estrada's 1998 presidential campaign "because they perceive him to be sincere, or someone who cares about them beyond electoral considerations." This "politics of sincerity," as he called it, helped sweep populists like Estrada and Duterte into power on empty promises of being a "man of the people" who truly cares about them. This politics of sincerity helps attract large segments of the population whose considerations for voting involve learning about the character of the person they aspire to enter Malacanang.

This of course doesn't paint the whole picture, as there are many other reasons why people choose who to vote for, including what economist Ciel Habito calls the "PITIK" test - presyo, trabaho, kita (prices, jobs, wages). How will the candidate keep prices low, give people jobs and raise wages. This necessarily translates to how the economy will be dealt with.

An acquaintance, who wrote an analysis of Ka Leody's ongoing campaign and the potential foundations he can build for socialists and laborites participating in future elections, pointed out that, when it comes to elections, people can have the tendency (without overgeneralizing) to vote based on their gut - on how they feel about the candidate, and on how they will keep them from going hungry.

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Postby Vesilen Island » Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:20 am

Pasong Tirad wrote:Duterte daughter quits mayor race as Philippine election deadline looms

The daughter of Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte on Tuesday removed herself from the running for mayor of Davao City, just days away from a deadline to change candidates for a presidential election next year.

Sara Duterte-Carpio, who has been widely tipped to run to succeed her father, did not say why she was withdrawing from the mayor contest, but told supporters on Facebook that further announcements would be made later.

The 43-year-old has come top in opinion polls throughout this year on preferred candidates for president, but has said she does not want that job.

The Philippines holds elections in May 2022 for positions from the level of president down to governors, mayors and local officials. The window for changing candidates expires on Nov. 15.

"This afternoon I am withdrawing my candidacy for mayor of Davao City," she said, announcing her brother Sebastian, her vice mayor, will run instead.

Duterte-Carpio has repeatedly said was not interested in running for president, but recently expressed willingness to forge an alliance with another presidential candidate, Ferdinand "Bongbong" Marcos Jr, the controversial son and namesake of the late dictator who was overthrown in 1986.


Bong Go hints at withdrawing VP bid, cites Duterte's wish

Vice presidential aspirant Senator Bong Go hinted that his plans in the 2022 elections might change because of President Rodrigo Duterte's wishes, signaling that there would be a reshuffle within the administration camp.

In a Malasakit Center event on Tuesday, November 9, an emotional Go said he could not anything about this, even if he wants to serve as vice president.

"My candidacy for vice president may change. We can't prevent changes in politics – that, as I said, is very dirty. I want to serve my countrymen in this capacity but there will be changes and I can't do anything about it."

His voice breaking as he spoke, Go added: "Because this is the President's wish, I need to change courses. You will know it in the coming days."

It will be recalled that the divided PDP-Laban wanted Go to be its standard-bearer for the high-stakes 2022 polls. President Rodrigo Duterte's last-minute decision to "retire" from politics pushed Go to run for vice presidency in his stead.

About an hour earlier from Go's speech, Davao City Mayor Sara Duterte withdrew her candidacy for mayor. Various camps have expected this move as they speculate that she will be running for a national post.

The deadline for substitution of candidates is on Monday, November 15. It remains to be seen if Go will be running for a different post or if Sara Duterte will be gunning for a national post.

But Sara Duterte, so far, has met with presidential bets Bongbong Marcos and PDP-Laban standard-bearer Ronald "Bato" dela Rosa.


I'm curious. Do you think that whole Tupas PDEA raid in Davao City's going to affect the reputation of Sara going into the election, assuming there'll be a switcheroo on the 15th? Or perhaps the propaganda machine is going to spin this story as a positive?

Source here: https://www.mindanews.com/top-stories/2 ... uests-say/

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Postby Pasong Tirad » Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:47 am

Vesilen Island wrote:


I'm curious. Do you think that whole Tupas PDEA raid in Davao City's going to affect the reputation of Sara going into the election, assuming there'll be a switcheroo on the 15th? Or perhaps the propaganda machine is going to spin this story as a positive?

Source here: https://www.mindanews.com/top-stories/2 ... uests-say/

Heard about that. It'll depend on how willing the candidates are to point out this out in an attempt to ruin Sara Duterte's character. So far it doesn't look like most media outlets have focused too much on the story save for the occasional article or two. This means the responsibility for making sure people know about this falls on the candidates themselves.

It would be super easy to point absolutely go to town and destroy the image Inday Sara is attempting to astroturf into existence of herself as some kind of woman of the people. She makes it super easy for anyone to go on the offensive if they had the guts to do so. As poor kids are slaughtered without evidence, all her cronies have to do is say the equivalent of "I work for the mayor fuck off." As people continue to struggle under lockdowns which were made necessary by the bungling of the pandemic response, Sara Duterte is taking her private jet - which is contributing to climate change, might I add - to a resort in Balesin to have a lavish birthday party with the House Speaker.

These people are so obscenely wealthy and so detached from reality and it's super easy to just point that out and use it as an angle to attack them.

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Postby Allinburg » Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:47 am

Philippines president's daughter joins new party as election deadline nears

The popular daughter of Philippine leader Rodrigo Duterte on Thursday joined a new political party and could run for a national position, its top official said, just days out from a deadline to firm up candidates for 2022 presidential elections.

Sara Duterte-Carpio, 43, has led opinion polls throughout this year as the most preferred candidate for the presidency, a post she has repeatedly said she had no interest in pursuing.

But this week she withdrew from next year's contest for mayor of Davao city, setting off speculation about a bigger role.

Duterte-Carpio is a promising leader and a tremendous asset, said congressman Martin Romualdez, president of Lakas-CMD, the party controlled by former president Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo that she joined.

"She joined Lakas-CMD for a possible national run," Romualdez told DZMM radio.

The party has nominated candidates for president and vice president, but those are widely seen as placeholders who can switch at the last minute. The deadline for changes is Nov. 15.

A spokesperson for Duterte-Carpio did not immediately respond to a request for comment on her plans.

Her father's PDP-Laban political party said on Wednesday it was watching "with keen interest" Duterte-Carpio's moves, adding that a decision to seek a national post "will most certainly affect the political landscape".

Duterte once said the presidency was no job for a woman but later suggested his daughter could team up with one of his loyalists for a run.

The 76-year old leader, who cannot seek re-election, was also an 11th-hour replacement in 2015 ahead of an election he won convincingly.

Political observers have anticipated his daughter might do the same.

Political analyst Temario Rivera said it was "very clear" Duterte-Carpio would seek a national post, but the possibility of her teaming up with another presidential aspirant, Ferdinand Marcos Jr., remains.

The son and namesake of the late Philippines dictator, who has registered to run for president under a different party, has not yet named a vice president.

"If they run together, whether it is Marcos-Sara or Sara-Marcos, it will be a formidable team," Rivera told Reuters.

The Southeast Asian nation of 110 million people holds elections in May 2022 for positions from president down to governors, mayors and local officials.

Apart from Marcos, other presidential aspirants in next year's polls include former boxing champion Manny Pacquiao, vice president Leni Robredo, Manila mayor Francisco Domagoso, senator Panfilo Lacson, and Duterte's former police chief Ronald dela Rosa.
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Postby Kubra » Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:49 am

Allinburg wrote:Philippines president's daughter joins new party as election deadline nears

The popular daughter of Philippine leader Rodrigo Duterte on Thursday joined a new political party and could run for a national position, its top official said, just days out from a deadline to firm up candidates for 2022 presidential elections.

Sara Duterte-Carpio, 43, has led opinion polls throughout this year as the most preferred candidate for the presidency, a post she has repeatedly said she had no interest in pursuing.

But this week she withdrew from next year's contest for mayor of Davao city, setting off speculation about a bigger role.

Duterte-Carpio is a promising leader and a tremendous asset, said congressman Martin Romualdez, president of Lakas-CMD, the party controlled by former president Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo that she joined.

"She joined Lakas-CMD for a possible national run," Romualdez told DZMM radio.

The party has nominated candidates for president and vice president, but those are widely seen as placeholders who can switch at the last minute. The deadline for changes is Nov. 15.

A spokesperson for Duterte-Carpio did not immediately respond to a request for comment on her plans.

Her father's PDP-Laban political party said on Wednesday it was watching "with keen interest" Duterte-Carpio's moves, adding that a decision to seek a national post "will most certainly affect the political landscape".

Duterte once said the presidency was no job for a woman but later suggested his daughter could team up with one of his loyalists for a run.

The 76-year old leader, who cannot seek re-election, was also an 11th-hour replacement in 2015 ahead of an election he won convincingly.

Political observers have anticipated his daughter might do the same.

Political analyst Temario Rivera said it was "very clear" Duterte-Carpio would seek a national post, but the possibility of her teaming up with another presidential aspirant, Ferdinand Marcos Jr., remains.

The son and namesake of the late Philippines dictator, who has registered to run for president under a different party, has not yet named a vice president.

"If they run together, whether it is Marcos-Sara or Sara-Marcos, it will be a formidable team," Rivera told Reuters.

The Southeast Asian nation of 110 million people holds elections in May 2022 for positions from president down to governors, mayors and local officials.

Apart from Marcos, other presidential aspirants in next year's polls include former boxing champion Manny Pacquiao, vice president Leni Robredo, Manila mayor Francisco Domagoso, senator Panfilo Lacson, and Duterte's former police chief Ronald dela Rosa.
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Postby Diahon » Thu Nov 11, 2021 10:57 am

inday doing a bongbong like her papa did

it does make me tear up the metaphorical phonebook, it does

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Postby Pasong Tirad » Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:05 pm

And it's official: Sara Duterte to run for vice president under Lakas-CMD

Davao City Mayor Sara Duterte formalized her bid for the country's second-highest post on Saturday, November 13.

She will be running for vice president under Lakas-CMD.


Her run under Lakas-CMD formalizes this as a tripartite alliance between Marcos, Arroyo and Duterte.

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Postby Shrillland » Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:06 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:And it's official: Sara Duterte to run for vice president under Lakas-CMD

Davao City Mayor Sara Duterte formalized her bid for the country's second-highest post on Saturday, November 13.

She will be running for vice president under Lakas-CMD.


Her run under Lakas-CMD formalizes this as a tripartite alliance between Marcos, Arroyo and Duterte.


Marcos, Arroyo, and Duterte....almost as bad as the original Tripartite Pact, really. I'll add her to Marcos's section of the OP later today(or tomorrow given the time difference)
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Postby Pasong Tirad » Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:30 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:And it's official: Sara Duterte to run for vice president under Lakas-CMD

Davao City Mayor Sara Duterte formalized her bid for the country's second-highest post on Saturday, November 13.

She will be running for vice president under Lakas-CMD.


Her run under Lakas-CMD formalizes this as a tripartite alliance between Marcos, Arroyo and Duterte.

BREAKING: Bongbong Marcos’ Partido Federal ng Pilipinas is adopting Davao City Mayor Sara Duterte as its candidate for vice president in the 2022 elections.

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Postby Resilient Acceleration » Fri Nov 12, 2021 11:47 pm

Bongbong-Sara 2022 at 70, 80% probability then?

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Postby Shrillland » Sat Nov 13, 2021 12:02 am

Resilient Acceleration wrote:Bongbong-Sara 2022 at 70, 80% probability then?


Realistically, yes.
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