by Australian rePublic » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:10 pm
by Perikuresu » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:16 pm
by Australian rePublic » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:20 pm
Perikuresu wrote:Nothing about the raids on the ABC, the arrest of Friendlyjordie's producer (which may/may not have been Bruz's orders) and the new law that allows Police to hack into our devices and social media account and pretend to be us?
I feel like these incidents would give you a better case on why Australia is a Nanny state
by Australian rePublic » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:22 pm
by Perikuresu » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:22 pm
Australian rePublic wrote:Perikuresu wrote:Nothing about the raids on the ABC, the arrest of Friendlyjordie's producer (which may/may not have been Bruz's orders) and the new law that allows Police to hack into our devices and social media account and pretend to be us?
I feel like these incidents would give you a better case on why Australia is a Nanny state
This is abuse of power, which is very different from nanny state. We need better systems in place to protect us from such abuse of power, but that's a different discussion in and of itself
by Andronya » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:23 pm
by Democratic Republic of Arztotzka » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:26 pm
by Australian rePublic » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:31 pm
Andronya wrote:Granted, Mexico is not exactly a great country to live in, it's REALLY unsafe and it has MANY problems, but even then, I'm glad Australia exists, because it makes me glad at least I wasn't born there.
No offence to Ausies, quite the contrary, the few I've met where all great, very likeable people, but I trully can't understand how people can like to live in a country like that; as much as I hate the Mexican government I still prefer an incompetent, corrupt government to a nanny state like that.
by The H Corporation » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:31 pm
Andronya wrote:Granted, Mexico is not exactly a great country to live in, it's REALLY unsafe and it has MANY problems, but even then, I'm glad Australia exists, because it makes me glad at least I wasn't born there.
No offence to Ausies, quite the contrary, the few I've met where all great, very likeable people, but I trully can't understand how people can like to live in a country like that; as much as I hate the Mexican government I still prefer an incompetent, corrupt government to a nanny state like that.
by Teuthita » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:34 pm
by Australian rePublic » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:37 pm
The H Corporation wrote:Andronya wrote:Granted, Mexico is not exactly a great country to live in, it's REALLY unsafe and it has MANY problems, but even then, I'm glad Australia exists, because it makes me glad at least I wasn't born there.
No offence to Ausies, quite the contrary, the few I've met where all great, very likeable people, but I trully can't understand how people can like to live in a country like that; as much as I hate the Mexican government I still prefer an incompetent, corrupt government to a nanny state like that.
The first time I agree, I am one of those people who really take one's individual freedom very seriously. So maybe living in Australia won't be my future choice of living. Some of the laws there are very ridiculous and just like the OP says they are not a nanny state when they don't want to or do not benefit them. Sounds similar but at the same time, it is not because in Mexico we don't have laws like those, and thank god we got the slim chance to not have those kinds of presidents.
by The H Corporation » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:37 pm
Australian rePublic wrote:Andronya wrote:Granted, Mexico is not exactly a great country to live in, it's REALLY unsafe and it has MANY problems, but even then, I'm glad Australia exists, because it makes me glad at least I wasn't born there.
No offence to Ausies, quite the contrary, the few I've met where all great, very likeable people, but I trully can't understand how people can like to live in a country like that; as much as I hate the Mexican government I still prefer an incompetent, corrupt government to a nanny state like that.
I don't know, I'd prefer to live somewhere with over-zealous nanny state laws than with a crappy government system. I mean, Australia isn't perfect, but at least I can take solace in the fact that, for the most part, the police aren't malicious, with few notable exceptions, foreign services will help us if we have problems overseas, I don't need to pay bribes in order to do things, etc. If it means putting up with over-zealous legislation, so be it. It's far better, in my opinion, to live in a country with a competent government and few systematic problems and deal with a nanny state, than to live in a country with many systematic problems. All countries have systematic problems, and in my opinion, Australia's systematic problem is the nanny state, but if that's our biggest systematic problem, we're still pretty damned good. I mean, as far as systematic problems go, nanny state isn't the worst possible one. At least here, I know that, for the most part, and with few exceptions, if I criticise the government, no body is going to show up and arrest me, yes, we had the FriendlyJordies incident, but that was isolated, and now it's gone
by Perikuresu » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:41 pm
Australian rePublic wrote:The H Corporation wrote:The first time I agree, I am one of those people who really take one's individual freedom very seriously. So maybe living in Australia won't be my future choice of living. Some of the laws there are very ridiculous and just like the OP says they are not a nanny state when they don't want to or do not benefit them. Sounds similar but at the same time, it is not because in Mexico we don't have laws like those, and thank god we got the slim chance to not have those kinds of presidents.
Yep, well it's our fault for putting up with it
by Andronya » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:41 pm
by The H Corporation » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:43 pm
Australian rePublic wrote:The H Corporation wrote:The first time I agree, I am one of those people who really take one's individual freedom very seriously. So maybe living in Australia won't be my future choice of living. Some of the laws there are very ridiculous and just like the OP says they are not a nanny state when they don't want to or do not benefit them. Sounds similar but at the same time, it is not because in Mexico we don't have laws like those, and thank god we got the slim chance to not have those kinds of presidents.
Yep, well it's our fault for putting up with it
by Australian rePublic » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:44 pm
by Andronya » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:47 pm
by The H Corporation » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:49 pm
Andronya wrote:Like I said, as much as I despise the Mexican government, it's not as bad as Australia's in my honest opinion.
The Mexican government has its own head up his... you know what hole. But in that incompetence it's just that, incompetent.
The Australian government sounds to me like the sort of people that would say "I will save you, even if it kills you"
by Australian rePublic » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:50 pm
Andronya wrote:Like I said, as much as I despise the Mexican government, it's not as bad as Australia's in my honest opinion.
The Mexican government has its own head up his... you know what hole. But in that incompetence it's just that, incompetent.
The Australian government sounds to me like the sort of people that would say "I will save you, even if it kills you"
by Andronya » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:53 pm
The H Corporation wrote:Andronya wrote:Like I said, as much as I despise the Mexican government, it's not as bad as Australia's in my honest opinion.
The Mexican government has its own head up his... you know what hole. But in that incompetence it's just that, incompetent.
The Australian government sounds to me like the sort of people that would say "I will save you, even if it kills you"
I don't think we can compare both countries like that, because it is not only incompetence. I sometimes feel they are trying to kill us
by Australian rePublic » Fri Oct 15, 2021 7:54 pm
Andronya wrote:The H Corporation wrote:I don't think we can compare both countries like that, because it is not only incompetence. I sometimes feel they are trying to kill us
More than that I feel like they simply don't care at all, More than trying to kill us the government is simply not worried about what happens to us.
by Infected Mushroom » Sat Oct 16, 2021 7:45 am
by Kerwa » Sat Oct 16, 2021 7:54 am
Infected Mushroom wrote:If the speed limit is 100 then it makes sense that you would be fined if you went even slightly over. Otherwise why isn't the speed limit 103?
by Kerwa » Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:08 am
Ifreann wrote:
Because speedometers are calibrated exactly and/or that accurate. (Amongst other things).
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