Five people murdered after bowman snipes across Norway town

[Haganham]

So more people dying overall and more people dying on average per incident isn't a sign of being worse, and we're not supposed to look at those metrics because if we do America and its liberal approach to guns comes off worse.

We have more then a kindergartener's understanding of statistics so we understand that it is to be expected that there will be more overall people doing everything. Including dying in mass shootings.

As for more people per instance, fuck no. the 2011 attack alone would bring Norway's average per instance up to 19, which is ridiculously high.

[Vassenor]

So more people dying overall and more people dying on average per incident isn't a sign of being worse, and we're not supposed to look at those metrics because if we do America and its liberal approach to guns comes off worse.

We have more then a kindergartener's understanding of statistics so we understand that it is to be expected that there will be more overall people doing everything. Including dying in mass shootings.

As for more people per instance, fuck no. the 2011 attack alone would bring Norway's average per instance up to 19, which is ridiculously high.

Once again we need to move the goalposts to find a metric that makes America not the worst country for mass shootings.

[Dowaesk]

Dudes be converting to Islam 5 seconds before they go on killing rampages these days.

(not really referring to the perp at hand)

[Gravlen]

Dudes be converting to Islam 5 seconds before they go on killing rampages these days.

(not really referring to the perp at hand)

Clearly not referring to the perp at hand.

On Saturday, the police held a press conference on the status of the murder case. Police Inspector Per Thomas Omholt says they now have a hypothesis that he has not converted.

- The investigation so far strengthens the hypothesis that he may not have done this very seriously. The hypothesis that he has converted to Islam has been weakened, says Omholt.

The police inspector says another theory has now been strengthened.

- The hypothesis about illness is the strongest, in relation to motivation, says Omholt at Saturday's press conference.

Norske muslimer reagerer på politiets islam-kommentar: – Det er veldig vondt

[Gravlen]

So more people dying overall and more people dying on average per incident isn't a sign of being worse, and we're not supposed to look at those metrics because if we do America and its liberal approach to guns comes off worse.

We have more then a kindergartener's understanding of statistics so we understand that it is to be expected that there will be more overall people doing everything. Including dying in mass shootings.

As for more people per instance, fuck no. the 2011 attack alone would bring Norway's average per instance up to 19, which is ridiculously high.

And the US averages 297.7 deaths per year due to plane hijackings. Talk about insanely high numbers!

[The Alma Mater]

Update:
Norwegian police has stated they doubt the bowman was motivated by Islam (or truly muslim at all) and now instead think mental illness was the cause of his actions. There was no pattern amongst the victims.

[Relden]

Dudes be converting to Islam 5 seconds before they go on killing rampages these days.

(not really referring to the perp at hand)

Anything to absolve islam, isn't it?

[The Alma Mater]

Dudes be converting to Islam 5 seconds before they go on killing rampages these days.

(not really referring to the perp at hand)

Anything to absolve islam, isn't it?

In this case that might be justified.

[Relden]

In this case that might be justified.

Perhaps.

Even so, when its a muslim or some other minority that perpetrates an act of violence, they'll be shrieking about how we need to wait for facts before passing judgement.

But when it's some white guy, it's immediately a problem caused by white men or a white supremacist society, or something.

[Gravlen]

Dudes be converting to Islam 5 seconds before they go on killing rampages these days.

(not really referring to the perp at hand)

Anything to absolve islam, isn't it?

Damn, following the facts as the investigation progresses only to absolve islam, what the Hell are they thinking??

[The Black Forrest]

In this case that might be justified.

Perhaps.

Even so, when its a muslim or some other minority that perpetrates an act of violence, they'll be shrieking about how we need to wait for facts before passing judgement.

But when it's some white guy, it's immediately a problem caused by white men or a white supremacist society, or something.

Do they now? Example?

[Vassenor]

Perhaps.

Even so, when its a muslim or some other minority that perpetrates an act of violence, they'll be shrieking about how we need to wait for facts before passing judgement.

But when it's some white guy, it's immediately a problem caused by white men or a white supremacist society, or something.

Do they now? Example?

Source: Dude Trust Me.

[Antipatros]

In this case that might be justified.

Perhaps.

Even so, when its a muslim or some other minority that perpetrates an act of violence, they'll be shrieking about how we need to wait for facts before passing judgement.

But when it's some white guy, it's immediately a problem caused by white men or a white supremacist society, or something.

In general, it's a good idea to wait until all of the facts come to light.

Every time there's something like this, people make assumptions, say some spicy stuff, and then end up looking like asshats.

[Ifreann]

Do they now? Example?

Source: Dude Trust Me.

[Haganham]

Well, no. You're completely mixed up now.
Your source spends time explaining how the conclusion you've presented is flawed, using 9/11 as an example:

You've not read what my conclusion was.

Note how Norway has only limited gun control, still plenty of guns in the general population and only 3 massshootings in the past few decades.
The USA has 3 per day.

Norway is also tiny. So tiny that those three shootings have caused more deaths per capita then all the US's.

Yeah The US has more mass shootings, but that's a red herring, as my argument was that norway's small size makes each mass shooting more significant.

[Dowaesk]

In this case that might be justified.

Perhaps.

Even so, when its a muslim or some other minority that perpetrates an act of violence, they'll be shrieking about how we need to wait for facts before passing judgement.

But when it's some white guy, it's immediately a problem caused by white men or a white supremacist society, or something.

No. See in the UK they got Pakistani rape gangs. They dont rape women in the name of Islam. But because they happen to be Muslim. Suddenly its "Islamic Rape" or "Muslamic ray guns".

[Gravlen]

Well, no. You're completely mixed up now.
Your source spends time explaining how the conclusion you've presented is flawed, using 9/11 as an example:

You've not read what my conclusion was.

You presented your conclusion in the first post you made in this thread.

Norway is also tiny. So tiny that those three shootings have caused more deaths per capita then all the US's.

Yeah The US has more mass shootings, but that's a red herring, as my argument was that norway's small size makes each mass shooting more significant.

The fact that the US has more mass shootings is not a red herring. Quite the opposite, the relatively high frequency of mass shootings signify that there's a serious problem in the country.

[Gravlen]

The mass shooting that wasn't.

Norway attack: Victims killed with 'sharp object', not arrows

Police in Norway say the five people who died in an attack last week by a man carrying a bow and arrows were actually killed by a "sharp object".

The suspect, Espen Andersen Brathen, also shot at people with arrows in Kongsberg, close to the capital, Oslo.

But investigating officers said at some point he either discarded or lost his bow.

It was the worst attack in Norway since far-right extremist Anders Breivik massacred 77 people a decade ago.

Five people were killed with a sharp object both in their own homes and in public spaces, police said on Monday, without giving further details.

In a statement, police said information on the type of weapon used could not be given as not all the witnesses have been questioned yet.

They also said the victims were selected at random, and that a number of people were shot at with arrows at the start of the attack, but none were killed by them.

"As far as motive is concerned, illness remains the main hypothesis. And as far as conversion to Islam is concerned, this hypothesis is weakened," police inspector Per Thomas Omholt told reporters, without elaborating.

[Salus Maior]

The mass shooting that wasn't.

Norway attack: Victims killed with 'sharp object', not arrows

Police in Norway say the five people who died in an attack last week by a man carrying a bow and arrows were actually killed by a "sharp object".

The suspect, Espen Andersen Brathen, also shot at people with arrows in Kongsberg, close to the capital, Oslo.

But investigating officers said at some point he either discarded or lost his bow.

It was the worst attack in Norway since far-right extremist Anders Breivik massacred 77 people a decade ago.

Five people were killed with a sharp object both in their own homes and in public spaces, police said on Monday, without giving further details.

In a statement, police said information on the type of weapon used could not be given as not all the witnesses have been questioned yet.

They also said the victims were selected at random, and that a number of people were shot at with arrows at the start of the attack, but none were killed by them.

"As far as motive is concerned, illness remains the main hypothesis. And as far as conversion to Islam is concerned, this hypothesis is weakened," police inspector Per Thomas Omholt told reporters, without elaborating.

I mean, did he fire the "sharp objects"? Like what happened?

[The Huskar Social Union]

The mass shooting that wasn't.

Norway attack: Victims killed with 'sharp object', not arrows

Police in Norway say the five people who died in an attack last week by a man carrying a bow and arrows were actually killed by a "sharp object".

The suspect, Espen Andersen Brathen, also shot at people with arrows in Kongsberg, close to the capital, Oslo.

But investigating officers said at some point he either discarded or lost his bow.

It was the worst attack in Norway since far-right extremist Anders Breivik massacred 77 people a decade ago.

Five people were killed with a sharp object both in their own homes and in public spaces, police said on Monday, without giving further details.

In a statement, police said information on the type of weapon used could not be given as not all the witnesses have been questioned yet.

They also said the victims were selected at random, and that a number of people were shot at with arrows at the start of the attack, but none were killed by them.

"As far as motive is concerned, illness remains the main hypothesis. And as far as conversion to Islam is concerned, this hypothesis is weakened," police inspector Per Thomas Omholt told reporters, without elaborating.

I mean, did he fire the "sharp objects"? Like what happened?

Stabbings maybe?

[Outer Sparta]

The mass shooting that wasn't.

Norway attack: Victims killed with 'sharp object', not arrows

Police in Norway say the five people who died in an attack last week by a man carrying a bow and arrows were actually killed by a "sharp object".

The suspect, Espen Andersen Brathen, also shot at people with arrows in Kongsberg, close to the capital, Oslo.

But investigating officers said at some point he either discarded or lost his bow.

It was the worst attack in Norway since far-right extremist Anders Breivik massacred 77 people a decade ago.

Five people were killed with a sharp object both in their own homes and in public spaces, police said on Monday, without giving further details.

In a statement, police said information on the type of weapon used could not be given as not all the witnesses have been questioned yet.

They also said the victims were selected at random, and that a number of people were shot at with arrows at the start of the attack, but none were killed by them.

"As far as motive is concerned, illness remains the main hypothesis. And as far as conversion to Islam is concerned, this hypothesis is weakened," police inspector Per Thomas Omholt told reporters, without elaborating.

How many people were injured overall? And I assume that all survivors who got injured were shot by an arrow right?

[Kingdom of Snoreway]

How many people were injured overall? And I assume that all survivors who got injured were shot by an arrow right?

The police are currently reporting on what the investigation has uncovered thus far:

In addition to the five people killed, three people were injured and five people where attacked (but got away unharmed).

The man fired quite a lot of arrows, though the police declines to specify how many. Somewhere in the vicinity of 50 arrows, it seems. He hit a couple of people with arrows, but the major damage came from stabbing implements.

The people killed were killed through the use of edged weapons, though the police declines to specify the types of weapon. It could be knives, swords, sabers or something else alltogether.

As for motive, the police maintain that it's most likely motivated by mental illness and not any religious or ideological motivation, though they haven't closed the door to this theory completely.

I mean, did he fire the "sharp objects"? Like what happened?

Stabbings and slashings.

[Free Hyperborea 2]

It was the Man behind the Slaughter.

Lmao.

[Free Hyperborea 2]

It was the Man behind the Slaughter.

Lmao.

[The Black Forrest]

It was the Man behind the Slaughter.

Lmao.

Don’t gravedig.