Cyprus, the other one-state and two-state solution dilemma.

[Kergstan]

Recent talks between the Republic of Cyprus and the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus have been suspended as the TRNC says that its recognition (by the Republic of Cyprus authorities) as a sovereign country is necessary for the talks to go forward.

What’s your opinions on this often forgotten island?

To me the whole point about talks should be about bringing the island together, nor Turkey and nor Greece (which at least officially has no interest in doing so) would give the necessary attention to those peripherical provinces, on the economic and social side good relations within the island are far more important and large chunks of populations in both north and south agree to the concept of a United Cyprus.

[Lady Victory]

The Turkish Republic of North Cyprus is an ethnostate and puppet of the Republic of Turkey. It is but one of many examples of Turkish Imperialism against it's neighbors. While the intervention in Cyprus in 1974 was totally justified Turkey exploited the opportunity to engage in shameless ethnic nationalism and colonialism by propping up an illegal state on the occupied soil of a sovereign nation and importing mainland Turks while evicting ethnic Greeks from their homes.

The TRNC should be abolished, by force if necessary, and the island united once more under the lawful government of the Republic of Cyprus.

[Kergstan]

The Turkish Republic of North Cyprus is an ethnostate and puppet of the Republic of Turkey. It is but one of many examples of Turkish Imperialism against it's neighbors. While the intervention in Cyprus in 1974 was totally justified Turkey exploited the opportunity to engage in shameless ethnic nationalism and colonialism by propping up an illegal state on the occupied soil of a sovereign nation and importing mainland Turks while evicting ethnic Greeks from their homes.

The TRNC should be abolished, by force if necessary, and the island united once more under the lawful government of the Republic of Cyprus.

I agree 101% although I don’t quite agree with military intervention, I’d rather await a popular expression of discontent in the TRNC.

[Ifreann]

Cyprus belongs to Poseidon, and as the seas rise he will claim it like Atlantis.

[Risottia]

Recent talks between the Republic of Cyprus and the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus have been suspended as the TRNC says that its recognition (by the Republic of Cyprus authorities) as a sovereign country is necessary for the talks to go forward.

Ha! Nice one.

nor Turkey and nor Greece (which at least officially has no interest in doing so) would give the necessary attention to those peripherical provinces,

There is no province of Greece, there is no province of Turkey.
There is Cyprus, an independent country and EU member, whose territory is partly occupied by Turkey.
Turkish occupation forces need to leave the territory before anything else happens.

[Redeemed Britannia]

Maybe this will be a bit unpopular, but not only should the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus be dissolved and the north be restored to Cyprus, the island can't be reunified in the first place until those who came to settle the north and who expelled the indigenous Greek population of the northern areas are sent back home to the mainland. The Turkish Cypriots who were there before 1974 and those born to them can stay, but the majority of them are quite literally settlers sent there by the Turkish Republic who went there to take away Greek, Cypriot homes perfectly knowing they were there are colonists and settlers.

[Heloin]

Nine state solution. Make all six districts of Cyprus independent states. Then make both British bases two separate countries. Finally make the UN buffer zone it’s own country, sure it runs through three districts but that could never be a problem I think.

[Alcala-Cordel]

Yeah, Turkey really has no business in Cyprus and it's extremely frustrating how they refuse to take responsibility for any of it. It's a pretty straightforward case of imperialism.

[Chan Island]

It's okay guys, Britain will generously take it over and administer it so that everyone can go back to wholesomely hating on Britain instead of each other. :3

[Pasong Tirad]

Nine state solution. Make all six districts of Cyprus independent states. Then make both British bases two separate countries. Finally make the UN buffer zone it’s own country, sure it runs through three districts but that could never be a problem I think.

Nine states enter, only one leaves.

[Lady Victory]

Maybe this will be a bit unpopular, but not only should the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus be dissolved and the north be restored to Cyprus, the island can't be reunified in the first place until those who came to settle the north and who expelled the indigenous Greek population of the northern areas are sent back home to the mainland. The Turkish Cypriots who were there before 1974 and those born to them can stay, but the majority of them are quite literally settlers sent there by the Turkish Republic who went there to take away Greek, Cypriot homes perfectly knowing they were there are colonists and settlers.

Based.

Let's do it.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

I think that a single state should be established as Helenoturkism and only Greece and Turkey should provide the guarantor of this new state to be established. Greece and Turkey should stop playing the cold war games now. A border should be drawn in front of terrible organizations like EOKA, I think that Greece really applies European standards in this regard. Turkish Cypriots want to unite with the rest of the island, but they want to be recognized as Cypriots without being killed in marginalization. Turkey, on the other hand, pretends to have forgotten Bülent Ecevit's mission. Yavru Vatan Değil Kardeş Vatan !

The solution of the unification of the Federal Republic of Cyprus
1-The Turkish Republic Of Northern Cyprus will be recognized in international organizations.
2-The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus will be a part of the European Union.
3- A referendum will be held for the unification of Cyprus.
4-Turkey and Greece will undertake the guarantor of the island of cyprus.
5-Great Britain leaving the European Union will withdraw from the island of Cyprus.

[Kharao]

Cyprus belongs to Poseidon, and as the seas rise he will claim it like Atlantis.

based

[Gonswanza]

Nine state solution. Make all six districts of Cyprus independent states. Then make both British bases two separate countries. Finally make the UN buffer zone it’s own country, sure it runs through three districts but that could never be a problem I think.

Nine states enter, only one leaves.

I have an award for the most based take, it is for you my liege.

Now, going back to the topic, I do suppose that the "state" of "North Cyprus" should be dissolved and/or consumed by Cyprus, given it is technically still Cyprus through and through, in spite of the blatant ethnostate.

However, I do believe one should also resort to settling a resolution or declaration against further actions by Turkey to restart the process that led to this mess, along with barring other countries from doing the same and chopping up Cyprus into smaller "states" for the sake of gaining territory, be it through an ethnostate or simply funding partisans to barricade an entire area and then declare it, falsely, as another independent "nation" or in this case, "state". And yes I'm using quotes because honestly I myself don't recognize the little chunk of "Turkey" within Cyprus as an independent nation, this whole debacle is petty as hell. But hey, what can I do? I've got no power to express my own demands over yonder.

[Herador]

Nine state solution. Make all six districts of Cyprus independent states. Then make both British bases two separate countries. Finally make the UN buffer zone it’s own country, sure it runs through three districts but that could never be a problem I think.

Nine states enter, only one leaves.

International Thunderdome is hella based

[Rio Cana]

Turkey insisted that Armenia had to leave Azerbaijan territory conquered by Armenia so why should not the same logic apply to Turkey when it comes to the part of Cyprus which they occupy.

[Gonswanza]

Turkey insisted that Armenia had to leave Azerbaijan territory conquered by Armenia so why should not the same logic apply to Turkey when it comes to the part of Cyprus which they occupy.

I fully agree with that. Even if Erdogan would be kicking and screaming while his little chunk of land is ripped away from him after declaring itself an independent nation which isn't even recognized by anyone outside of the Mediterranean proper... If that.

(As far as I'm aware, anyways. I could be wrong. Terribly wrong.)

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

Turkey insisted that Armenia had to leave Azerbaijan territory conquered by Armenia so why should not the same logic apply to Turkey when it comes to the part of Cyprus which they occupy.

It is not the same thing, one is the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan, the other is the guarantee of a nation. No one can ignore Turks or Greeks in Cyprus today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Christmas_(1963)

Turkey insisted that Armenia had to leave Azerbaijan territory conquered by Armenia so why should not the same logic apply to Turkey when it comes to the part of Cyprus which they occupy.

I fully agree with that. Even if Erdogan would be kicking and screaming while his little chunk of land is ripped away from him after declaring itself an independent nation which isn't even recognized by anyone outside of the Mediterranean proper... If that.

(As far as I'm aware, anyways. I could be wrong. Terribly wrong.)

It's time to teach a history lesson. Erdogan did not establish the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. Rauf Raif Denktaş is the founder of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus. Also, the Greeks, who do not want to unite, love Erdogan so much, why shouldn't they, racists feed off of racism. Turkey will one day be freed from the shadow of political Islam and when these racist attacks against Turkish Cypriots on the island of Cyprus come to an end, Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypriots will unite as a single state.

[Heloin]

Turkey insisted that Armenia had to leave Azerbaijan territory conquered by Armenia so why should not the same logic apply to Turkey when it comes to the part of Cyprus which they occupy.

It is not the same thing, one is the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan, the other is the guarantee of a nation. No one can ignore Turks or Greeks in Cyprus today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Christmas_(1963)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumgait_pogrom

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

It is not the same thing, one is the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan, the other is the guarantee of a nation. No one can ignore Turks or Greeks in Cyprus today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Christmas_(1963)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumgait_pogrom

Look, I'm aware of this, but the more similar the racists are, the more similar the link you shared and the Cyprus problem. We will solve all these problems together as the whole of Europe. Together we will purge the fascists through education wait for 2022 December, kemlasites are coming to power !

[Herador]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumgait_pogrom

Look, I'm aware of this, but the more similar the racists are, the more similar the link you shared and the Cyprus problem. We will solve all these problems together as the whole of Europe. Together we will purge the fascists through education wait for 2022 December, kemlasites are coming to power !

You missed your calling. You should have been a propagandist with all these vague, broad political platitudes you spout.

[Barlyy]

Is the island being divided really that big of an issue? Keep it divided. There is no possibility for unification with the current government of Turkey.

[Risottia]

1-The Turkish Republic Of Northern Cyprus will be recognized in international organizations.

HAHAHAHA!

2-The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus will be a part of the European Union.

The territory it occupies is already a part of an EU member. The Turkish occupants aren't EU citizens. They need to move or to seek Cypriot citizenship.
And no, foreigners don't get a say in who becomes an EU member country.

3- A referendum will be held for the unification of Cyprus.

Yes, among the citizens of Cyprus.

4-Turkey and Greece will undertake the guarantor of the island of cyprus.

No EU member country shall be under suzerainity of any other country.

5-Great Britain leaving the European Union will withdraw from the island of Cyprus.

The UK has already left. The agreements between the UK and Cyprus are a matter for UK, Cyprus and EU (only for the acquis communautaire) only.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

Is the island being divided really that big of an issue? Keep it divided. There is no possibility for unification with the current government of Turkey.

Turkish Cypriots want to be equal with Greek Cypriots and want to unite. but the current Turkish government is not really taking any steps for peace. The Greek Cypriot administration, on the other hand, follows a policy of excluding Turkish Cypriots like the old administration, and if this policy continues, the island cannot be united for another thousand years. If there is no equal rights, there will be no unification !

1-The Turkish Republic Of Northern Cyprus will be recognized in international organizations.

HAHAHAHA!

2-The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus will be a part of the European Union.

The territory it occupies is already a part of an EU member. The Turkish occupants aren't EU citizens. They need to move or to seek Cypriot citizenship.
And no, foreigners don't get a say in who becomes an EU member country.

3- A referendum will be held for the unification of Cyprus.

Yes, among the citizens of Cyprus.

4-Turkey and Greece will undertake the guarantor of the island of cyprus.

No EU member country shall be under suzerainity of any other country.

5-Great Britain leaving the European Union will withdraw from the island of Cyprus.

The UK has already left. The agreements between the UK and Cyprus are a matter for UK, Cyprus and EU (only for the acquis communautaire) only.

Cyprus is the home of Turkish Cypriots as well as Greek Cypriots, and with these thoughts of yours, you are only unwittingly supporting the war proaganda. I condemn your definition of Turkish Cypriots as foreigners and I will continue to define a united Cyprus until the end. Long live the Turkish-Greek brotherhood. Hellenoturkism for Cyprus

[Pirusavia]

Just like how the old joke said. When two fish are fighting, then probably the British stepped on the water.

Seriously though, I feel like a one-state sovereign Cyprus would do better with coexistence since the population of Greeks and Turks were spread evenly in all of the island, but sadly Turkey fucked up the multiculturalization process during Cyprus' post-independence years, particularly in 1974 until today.