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Of the Quendi wrote:

Lackadaisical2 wrote:

Of the Quendi wrote:

Lackadaisical2 wrote:

Albrante wrote:I'm thinking some sort of EU super state could give china and america a run for their money.

It could, but even if it existed, it'd be totally focused internally.

What do you mean?

That a potential EU unified force would be more concerned with itself than anything happening outside it's borders, just like the vast majority of those countries are now- it'd take a major shift in public and politician opinion in multiple areas.

China is far more internally minded then europe but that doesn't mean China wont become a superpower

Jaunty tunes wrote:So China may need a bit longer to arrive in parts of the world. The fact is that china is the largest country and the fastest growing with an unknown military budget.

The US has extended itself into numerous combat failures. The chinese just target countries that serve its own intrest. It is a selfish super power that would not care less if a country was wiped off the map as long as the refuguees do not enter china as that would cost china money. Everything they do is to maximise profit. World responsibility is put on the back foot.

If by super power you mean military deployment in different regions America is the top. But financially China has a much bigger say for most countries than the US has.

Lackadaisical2 wrote:

Of the Quendi wrote:

Lackadaisical2 wrote:

Of the Quendi wrote:

Lackadaisical2 wrote:

Albrante wrote:I'm thinking some sort of EU super state could give china and america a run for their money.

It could, but even if it existed, it'd be totally focused internally.

What do you mean?

That a potential EU unified force would be more concerned with itself than anything happening outside it's borders, just like the vast majority of those countries are now- it'd take a major shift in public and politician opinion in multiple areas.

China is far more internally minded then europe but that doesn't mean China wont become a superpower

That actually is another reason they may never be a super power.

Its why even though they were supposedly more powerful than Europe was, even if they had been united that they got assraped 3 centuries later.

Jaunty tunes wrote:So China may need a bit longer to arrive in parts of the world. The fact is that china is the largest country and the fastest growing with an unknown military budget.

The US has extended itself into numerous combat failures. The chinese just target countries that serve its own intrest. It is a selfish super power that would not care less if a country was wiped off the map as long as the refuguees do not enter china as that would cost china money. Everything they do is to maximise profit. World responsibility is put on the back foot.

If by super power you mean military deployment in different regions America is the top. But financially China has a much bigger say for most countries than the US has.

Self--Esteem wrote:

Of the Quendi wrote:

Lackadaisical2 wrote:

Of the Quendi wrote:

Lackadaisical2 wrote:

Albrante wrote:I'm thinking some sort of EU super state could give china and america a run for their money.

It could, but even if it existed, it'd be totally focused internally.

What do you mean?

That a potential EU unified force would be more concerned with itself than anything happening outside it's borders, just like the vast majority of those countries are now- it'd take a major shift in public and politician opinion in multiple areas.

China is far more internally minded then europe but that doesn't mean China wont become a superpower

China is a major economic driving force, dealing on all global markets, getting people to invest in their country.
No European nation comes even close to that. The EU is far more isolationist.

Lackadaisical2 wrote:

Of the Quendi wrote:

Lackadaisical2 wrote:

Of the Quendi wrote:

Lackadaisical2 wrote:

Albrante wrote:I'm thinking some sort of EU super state could give china and america a run for their money.

It could, but even if it existed, it'd be totally focused internally.

What do you mean?

That a potential EU unified force would be more concerned with itself than anything happening outside it's borders, just like the vast majority of those countries are now- it'd take a major shift in public and politician opinion in multiple areas.

China is far more internally minded then europe but that doesn't mean China wont become a superpower

That actually is another reason they may never be a super power.

Its why even though they were supposedly more powerful than Europe was, even if they had been united that they got assraped 3 centuries later.

Of the Quendi wrote:

Self--Esteem wrote:

Of the Quendi wrote:

Lackadaisical2 wrote:

Of the Quendi wrote:

Lackadaisical2 wrote:

Albrante wrote:I'm thinking some sort of EU super state could give china and america a run for their money.

It could, but even if it existed, it'd be totally focused internally.

What do you mean?

That a potential EU unified force would be more concerned with itself than anything happening outside it's borders, just like the vast majority of those countries are now- it'd take a major shift in public and politician opinion in multiple areas.

China is far more internally minded then europe but that doesn't mean China wont become a superpower

China is a major economic driving force, dealing on all global markets, getting people to invest in their country.
No European nation comes even close to that. The EU is far more isolationist.

No of course not. Individually. Combined the EU has already overtaken the US and if it where a federation it would be an economic superpower.

Albrante wrote:I'm thinking some sort of EU super state could give china and america a run for their money.

Kington Langley wrote:So what if the next superpower is slightly isolationist, when the USA and the UK declared war on Iraq to 'spread democracy' the people were not happy about it, I say stay out of ther people's business if you want to come across as a respected nation rather than a 'pest' like America. They just can't leave the world to do things on their own.

Minotzia wrote:There's no such thing as an isolationist superpower.

Kington Langley wrote:So what if the next superpower is slightly isolationist, when the USA and the UK declared war on Iraq to 'spread democracy' the people were not happy about it, I say stay out of ther people's business if you want to come across as a respected nation rather than a 'pest' like America. They just can't leave the world to do things on their own.

Of the Quendi wrote:

Lackadaisical2 wrote:

Of the Quendi wrote:

Lackadaisical2 wrote:

Of the Quendi wrote:

Lackadaisical2 wrote:

Albrante wrote:I'm thinking some sort of EU super state could give china and america a run for their money.

It could, but even if it existed, it'd be totally focused internally.

What do you mean?

That a potential EU unified force would be more concerned with itself than anything happening outside it's borders, just like the vast majority of those countries are now- it'd take a major shift in public and politician opinion in multiple areas.

China is far more internally minded then europe but that doesn't mean China wont become a superpower

That actually is another reason they may never be a super power.

Its why even though they were supposedly more powerful than Europe was, even if they had been united that they got assraped 3 centuries later.

Who are you talking about now? China or Europe?

Yethtu wrote:I beleive the age of superpowers is over.

The world is going to have to co-operate to get anything more done.

I'd say our leaders are the USA in technology and reaserch, China in light industry, Russia in heavy industry, and the US in food production. Raw material wise, Canada and Brazil have it made.

Basiclly, they will be our "Big Five"

Franca-Liria wrote:

Yethtu wrote:I beleive the age of superpowers is over.

The world is going to have to co-operate to get anything more done.

I'd say our leaders are the USA in technology and reaserch, China in light industry, Russia in heavy industry, and the US in food production. Raw material wise, Canada and Brazil have it made.

Basiclly, they will be our "Big Five"

So I guess the European Union, with the highest GDP, largest economy, and one of the largest populations in the world, will not be included to the new 'Big 5' conference. If not, they will just dominate the Middle East and Africa through economic and military ties.
Brazil will likely not become a super power, as the only 3 real global powers ATM are Great Britain, France, and the United States. Brazil, Russia, India, and China have little in the way of global projection of military power by way of bases and/or colonies.

North Suran wrote:

Minotzia wrote:There's no such thing as an isolationist superpower.

Does the phrase "Perfidious Albion" ring a bell?

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
You'll notice his criteria is nearly completely economic, I disagree with his assessment of Russia though, they're on the down and out route- they're not so much heavy industry (USA does much more of that) than it is raw resources- black gold.