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Postby Emothica » Sun May 16, 2010 6:52 am

China, they could kill us all with thier led.
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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sun May 16, 2010 6:54 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Nobel Hobos wrote:As a somewhat effete Australian, I DO NOT consider "24-hour rolling mauls" to be a desirable lifestyle.

When I see the Kiwi invaders coming, I'm moving to Mexico. Which is (a) a long way from NZ, and (b) has the most favourable ratio of nubile women to nubile men.


Piffle, there nothing more beautiful than a well constructed and maintained rolling maul. The fact the NZers can keep it up for 24 hours at a stretch merely confirms their status as super-power in waiting.


I should be happy that the showdown won't involve third degree burns, the sun being blotted out for years, and giant mutant cockroaches.

Maybe I'm a homophobe. But lying in the mud with thirty muscular blokes leg-humping each other on top of me hardly seems preferable, as a way to go out.
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Hemenster wrote:Monaco

They could gamble all the rich and power out of thier money!
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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sun May 16, 2010 7:00 am

Kiribait wrote:
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Jaunty tunes wrote:To me China is already the worlds superpower. The US days are over just like the English days are over. With superior numbers and an unknown military budget I wouldnt want to mess with china. And please dont mention the US would Nuke China. China has enough nukes too.

The next superpower will probably be India as China is limiting its population while India is not.


Yes, but China has a massive economy, and was the only world nation that was left pretty much unaffected by the recession.


Australia did OK. Because of the excellent economic management of the Rud coal we sell to China.

Let me tell you, we're proud of that. It's not like we're burning it ourselves, right?

India, on the other hand, is a very poor country, and cannot afford to pay for all it's citizens. That is why China is controlling the population.


With those strange plastic toys which leave a greasy residue on your hands if you touch them. They're a bit suss, but they're cheap and the kids love 'em.

The USA will ALWAYS attract the smartest people in the world so we will always be the best.


This that last part suppose to be a joke?


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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun May 16, 2010 7:00 am

Nobel Hobos wrote:I should be happy that the showdown won't involve third degree burns, the sun being blotted out for years, and giant mutant cockroaches.

Maybe I'm a homophobe. But lying in the mud with thirty muscular blokes leg-humping each other on top of me hardly seems preferable, as a way to go out.


You're thinking of a rook. Everyone is stood up leg-humping in a maul.

Edit: Not knowing a sporting terms? You lose 100 Aussie points.
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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sun May 16, 2010 7:17 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Nobel Hobos wrote:I should be happy that the showdown won't involve third degree burns, the sun being blotted out for years, and giant mutant cockroaches.

Maybe I'm a homophobe. But lying in the mud with thirty muscular blokes leg-humping each other on top of me hardly seems preferable, as a way to go out.


You're thinking of a rook. Everyone is stood up leg-humping in a maul.

Edit: Not knowing a sporting terms? You lose 100 Aussie points.


I don't consider Rugby to be an Aussie game.

Roo shooting is an Aussie game. Surfing is an Aussie game (body-surfing, anyway). Golf is an Aussie game.

Aussie games are ones that need lots of space and let us stay well away from other people. If your idea of sport is being jammed together with other people's bodies, go to Tokyo!

I do know a lot of Golf terms! Fuck. Fucking fuck. Hole in green. Fuck putting. Fuck chipping. Driver chuck. Bunker pissing. Birdies in the nineteenth hole. I love golf.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun May 16, 2010 7:23 am

Nobel Hobos wrote:Aussie games are ones that need lots of space and let us stay well away from other people. If your idea of sport is being jammed together with other people's bodies, go to Tokyo!


I've been to Tokyo, not enough leg humping.

Yet another reason NZ will be the next superpower, they have leg slapping follwed by leg humping and in public.

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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sun May 16, 2010 7:24 am

Inherentjoydom wrote:No it isn't you moron it's true.


Oh, you came back?

Do try to lighten up!
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Postby Strathy » Sun May 16, 2010 7:30 am

Rwanda is the next superpower
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Sun May 16, 2010 7:33 am

Nobel Hobos wrote:The World Health Organization IS the next superpower.

And hopefully they will prevail in the long struggle against disease, and build an empire not of wealth, but of health.

At least in the Medical world. If they help in eradicating smallpox, then why not keep up the work to eradicate polio?

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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sun May 16, 2010 7:34 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Nobel Hobos wrote:Aussie games are ones that need lots of space and let us stay well away from other people. If your idea of sport is being jammed together with other people's bodies, go to Tokyo!


I've been to Tokyo, not enough leg humping.


You need to be discreet. No eye contact!

Yet another reason NZ will be the next superpower, they have leg slapping followed by leg humping and in public.


Yes, it's a worry. But when the Australian military retreats to Darwin we could take back Papua New Guinea, and repel your rape symbolism with penis gourds.

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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sun May 16, 2010 7:39 am

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:
Nobel Hobos wrote:The World Health Organization IS the next superpower.

And hopefully they will prevail in the long struggle against disease, and build an empire not of wealth, but of health.

At least in the Medical world. If they help in eradicating smallpox, then why not keep up the work to eradicate polio?


They have such better weapons nowdays. Gosh, they nearly wiped out malaria, using only DDT. Imagine what they could do with modern neurotoxins!
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Postby Chemaki » Sun May 16, 2010 7:45 am

I think, the Vatican will become the next superpower (doomfort and monks with guns). Either that or Andorra.

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Postby Manahakatouki » Sun May 16, 2010 7:47 am

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Postby Andaluciae » Sun May 16, 2010 8:07 am

Kiribait wrote:
Inherentjoydom wrote:
Nobel Hobos wrote:
Kulverint wrote:
Jaunty tunes wrote:To me China is already the worlds superpower. The US days are over just like the English days are over. With superior numbers and an unknown military budget I wouldnt want to mess with china. And please dont mention the US would Nuke China. China has enough nukes too.

The next superpower will probably be India as China is limiting its population while India is not.


Yes, but China has a massive economy, and was the only world nation that was left pretty much unaffected by the recession.


Australia did OK. Because of the excellent economic management of the Rud coal we sell to China.

Let me tell you, we're proud of that. It's not like we're burning it ourselves, right?

India, on the other hand, is a very poor country, and cannot afford to pay for all it's citizens. That is why China is controlling the population.


With those strange plastic toys which leave a greasy residue on your hands if you touch them. They're a bit suss, but they're cheap and the kids love 'em.

The USA will ALWAYS attract the smartest people in the world so we will always be the best.


This that last part suppose to be a joke?



While I am less than fully willing to enter into the debate, it's not an entirely unreasonable statement, given the quality of American Universities. They do drag in a lot of people from abroad.
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Postby Navannia » Sun May 16, 2010 12:21 pm

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Postby Maurepas » Sun May 16, 2010 12:31 pm

Well, Dick Grayson recently took up the mantle of Batman....

Wait..

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Postby Pope Joan » Sun May 16, 2010 12:44 pm

I read the first 7 pages and the last page and didn't see Brazil.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24185233/

http://www.energy-daily.com/reports/Lul ... r_999.html

Like any intelligent nation, they are expanding peaceful use of nuclear power.

Brazil is on an upward curve. They have enormous resources. They are strong in industry and agriculture; unlike the US, they actually make things people want to buy.

Former forestland in the Amazon which has been cleared and diverted to pasturage has been show to release more oxygen and less carbon dioxide than the forest.

Good harbors, and constantly improving transportation.

Improving education.

Support from Japan which reminds me of America's relations with France from 1777 through the Victorian age.

http://www.jbic.go.jp/en/report/jbic-to ... index.html

Japan and Brazil together make a formidable team.
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Postby Tekania » Sun May 16, 2010 12:46 pm

No, the World Health Organization is not the next superpower.
Such heroic nonsense!

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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sun May 16, 2010 12:48 pm

Pope Joan wrote:I read the first 7 pages and the last page and didn't see Brazil.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24185233/

http://www.energy-daily.com/reports/Lul ... r_999.html

Like any intelligent nation, they are expanding peaceful use of nuclear power.

Brazil is on an upward curve. They have enormous resources. They are strong in industry and agriculture; unlike the US, they actually make things people want to buy.

Yes, no one wants to buy our crap, which is why we have the highest industrial output in the world. But people have mentioned Brazil.

Former forestland in the Amazon which has been cleared and diverted to pasturage has been show to release more oxygen and less carbon dioxide than the forest.

Good harbors, and constantly improving transportation.

Improving education.

Support from Japan which reminds me of America's relations with France from 1777 through the Victorian age.

http://www.jbic.go.jp/en/report/jbic-to ... index.html

Japan and Brazil together make a formidable team.

Its quite the mismatch culturally though, and I doubt we'll see a major shift to Brazil before China, long term Brazil has more potential than China, imo- looking at 100+ year range. Right now their education is pretty abysmal, which is a major barrier to superpower status.
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Postby Pope Joan » Sun May 16, 2010 12:59 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:I read the first 7 pages and the last page and didn't see Brazil.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24185233/

http://www.energy-daily.com/reports/Lul ... r_999.html

Like any intelligent nation, they are expanding peaceful use of nuclear power.

Brazil is on an upward curve. They have enormous resources. They are strong in industry and agriculture; unlike the US, they actually make things people want to buy.

Yes, no one wants to buy our crap, which is why we have the highest industrial output in the world. But people have mentioned Brazil.

Former forestland in the Amazon which has been cleared and diverted to pasturage has been show to release more oxygen and less carbon dioxide than the forest.

Good harbors, and constantly improving transportation.

Improving education.

Support from Japan which reminds me of America's relations with France from 1777 through the Victorian age.

http://www.jbic.go.jp/en/report/jbic-to ... index.html

Japan and Brazil together make a formidable team.

Its quite the mismatch culturally though, and I doubt we'll see a major shift to Brazil before China, long term Brazil has more potential than China, imo- looking at 100+ year range. Right now their education is pretty abysmal, which is a major barrier to superpower status.


Our figures tend to confuse exploitation of resources with industry.

We get credited with industrial production because of oil, much of which is SHell (Dutch) and BP (English). These don't emlpoy many US workers nor should they constitute "industry".

We also have automated coal mines tearing the tops off mountains, and agribusiness which employs immigrant labor while swallowing up family farms. These "industries" are here to exploit and ship our resources while impoverishing our citizens.

Compare Africa selling off gold and hardwoods to China.

Or even Latin America's bananas and coffee.

We look like a third world country.

For industry, we should look at value affef, what do we actually create, and value to, and sell?

Certainly not as much as Korea or Japan.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/prod4.nr0.htm
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sun May 16, 2010 1:12 pm

Pope Joan wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Pope Joan wrote:I read the first 7 pages and the last page and didn't see Brazil.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24185233/

http://www.energy-daily.com/reports/Lul ... r_999.html

Like any intelligent nation, they are expanding peaceful use of nuclear power.

Brazil is on an upward curve. They have enormous resources. They are strong in industry and agriculture; unlike the US, they actually make things people want to buy.

Yes, no one wants to buy our crap, which is why we have the highest industrial output in the world. But people have mentioned Brazil.

Former forestland in the Amazon which has been cleared and diverted to pasturage has been show to release more oxygen and less carbon dioxide than the forest.

Good harbors, and constantly improving transportation.

Improving education.

Support from Japan which reminds me of America's relations with France from 1777 through the Victorian age.

http://www.jbic.go.jp/en/report/jbic-to ... index.html

Japan and Brazil together make a formidable team.

Its quite the mismatch culturally though, and I doubt we'll see a major shift to Brazil before China, long term Brazil has more potential than China, imo- looking at 100+ year range. Right now their education is pretty abysmal, which is a major barrier to superpower status.


Our figures tend to confuse exploitation of resources with industry.

But not other's figures? :eyebrow:

We get credited with industrial production because of oil, much of which is SHell (Dutch) and BP (English). These don't emlpoy many US workers nor should they constitute "industry".

We also have automated coal mines tearing the tops off mountains, and agribusiness which employs immigrant labor while swallowing up family farms. These "industries" are here to exploit and ship our resources while impoverishing our citizens.

Would you prefer to put people to work with a pickax instead of using powered equipment? OH noes, immigrants, its not like they make up 11% of the population, damn them for having jobs and living here.

Compare Africa selling off gold and hardwoods to China.

Or even Latin America's bananas and coffee.

We look like a third world country.

For industry, we should look at value affef, what do we actually create, and value to, and sell?

Certainly not as much as Korea or Japan.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/prod4.nr0.htm

I cna compare them, pretty easily, and see theres no comparison to be made, we use those resources at home producing mroe shit and making even more money, I guess I missed the part of our history where we reverted to being stuck in a mertcantilist hellhole, shipping our natural resources to England.

Your source only seems to indicate that we're one of the few nations whose productivity and wages for industrial jobs are always rising. wtf is affef? I'm not sure why you picked to respond on that point, but this thread wasn't originally about the US's industrial output or lack thereof, so further inquiries may be made in another thread or via TG.
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Postby Vetalia » Sun May 16, 2010 1:13 pm

I don't know if there will be one. The conditions that created the superpowers were pretty unique and unlikely to happen again unless we either have one hell of a war and/or a return to widespread colonialism.
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