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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sun May 16, 2010 5:12 am

The World Health Organization IS the next superpower.

And hopefully they will prevail in the long struggle against disease, and build an empire not of wealth, but of health.
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Postby South Norwega » Sun May 16, 2010 5:13 am

Nobel Hobos wrote:The World Health Organization IS the next superpower.

And hopefully they will prevail in the long struggle against disease, and build an empire not of wealth, but of health.

That makes four of us to have made that joke in some manner.
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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sun May 16, 2010 5:15 am

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Onekawa-Nukanor wrote:
New Zealand, or in the future known as the Polynesian Federation of Polynesian Republic, why u ask well it goes like this.

1. New Zealand company Fonterra controls 2/3 of the world dairy Industry.
2. Has the second largest wool porduce in the world.
3.Is actually able to feed ourselves if the world goes pearshaped, unlike China which has to import food or the US who can't stop eating, we can also clothe oursleves as well and would be quite easy to look after ourselves, sure tech would be basic but I would rather be better off by being able to eat regurarily then have a internet or a computer or a TV etc and starving or food being expensive.

Time line (in my rough opinion)
2015: World economy collapses due to the increase in massive debts around the world.
2016: US gives up American Samoa, Hawaii (okay maybe not hawaii) and all the Pacific terrorties to help there economy on the American Contient.
2017: NZ gets large amounts of refugees streaming from the pacific, due to our help everyone nature we send aid overseas.
2020: NZ decides a quick political campaign to control the pacific nations so they can recieve better treatment.
2021: Fiji refuses, thus a large civillian uprising occurs and a civil war takes place, NZ gets involved and is able to wrestle control from the Military run goverment.
2024: NZ becomes a Republic or Federation,
2027-28: Become Polynesian Federation of Polynesian Republic.
2029: With control over most of the pacific NZ becomes a major player due to much shipping that has to cross the pacific and is taxed.


First laugh of the day. Thank you. :rofl:


Yes, very witty. Reason enough to read the thread!





South Norwega wrote:
Nobel Hobos wrote:The World Health Organization IS the next superpower.

And hopefully they will prevail in the long struggle against disease, and build an empire not of wealth, but of health.

That makes four of us to have made that joke in some manner.


Jolly good. All the more reason to read the thread. I'd assumed it would be page after page of nationalist dick-waving and weapon porn.





Nods to South Norwega for being first with that joke.
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Postby Onekawa-Nukanor » Sun May 16, 2010 5:23 am

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:
Onekawa-Nukanor wrote:New Zealand, or in the future known as the Polynesian Federation of Polynesian Republic, why u ask well it goes like this.

1. New Zealand company Fonterra controls 2/3 of the world dairy Industry.
2. Has the second largest wool porduce in the world.
3.Is actually able to feed ourselves if the world goes pearshaped, unlike China which has to import food or the US who can't stop eating, we can also clothe oursleves as well and would be quite easy to look after ourselves, sure tech would be basic but I would rather be better off by being able to eat regurarily then have a internet or a computer or a TV etc and starving or food being expensive.

Time line (in my rough opinion)
2015: World economy collapses due to the increase in massive debts around the world.
2016: US gives up American Samoa, Hawaii (okay maybe not hawaii) and all the Pacific terrorties to help there economy on the American Contient.
2017: NZ gets large amounts of refugees streaming from the pacific, due to our help everyone nature we send aid overseas.
2020: NZ decides a quick political campaign to control the pacific nations so they can recieve better treatment.
2021: Fiji refuses, thus a large civillian uprising occurs and a civil war takes place, NZ gets involved and is able to wrestle control from the Military run goverment.
2024: NZ becomes a Republic or Federation,
2027-28: Become Polynesian Federation of Polynesian Republic.
2029: With control over most of the pacific NZ becomes a major player due to much shipping that has to cross the pacific and is taxed.


First laugh of the day. Thank you. :rofl:


Yep, funny but remember it was a educated guess that involved a fair bit of optisim and taking a fair amount of realism away, but I think I raise valid points (not with the time line) in the 3 facts given above, probably not the most accrate but still some-what fair nonetheless
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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sun May 16, 2010 5:36 am

Rhodmhire wrote:
Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Communist Phanafia wrote:China is probably going to end up invading the US, or US invading China.

No, they won't.


Because "power in numbers" only takes you so far in the real world.

Seriously, I
do not think any actual country (terrorist organizations are not countries) is contemplating an invasion of U.S. soil at this point or in any point in the next few decades.

That's another Friedman point (which I am spewing a lot of here), one of the advantages the U.S. has had and will continue to have is that nobody is ballsy enough, really, to try and attack us on our own turf in a serious manner. In that respect, war tends to help us economically and do little to tarnish our morale, since we, unlike Europe, were not close to obliterated during either of the two world wars, nor any other war subsequent to those wars really.

At least, on the scale that Europe was. Sure we were attacked and I think Kiska was occupied during WWII, but they are blips on the radar scale (not trying to make the deaths/reality of it less than what they are) in contrast to what other nations have experienced.

Or something like that.

Eh.


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I can't tell if you're incredibly witty, or just bucktooth random. But please, please don't break the spell by trying to be serious !
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Postby North Suran » Sun May 16, 2010 5:39 am

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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sun May 16, 2010 6:05 am

Tekania wrote:
Self--Esteem wrote:Eurasia is only the little stripe between Europe and Asia (there where both tectonic plates reach each other).

France is too far to the west to be anywhere near the Asian plate. Turkey and parts of Russia are part of Eurasia.


Apparently your science class never went over Plate Tectonics in detail... "Europe" and "Asia" are not on separate plates, there is a "Eurasian" plate, the only part of the Eurasian continent that isn't part of the Eurasian plate is a segment of Siberia, which is part of the North American Plate, The Middle East and Turkey which is its own plate, and India which its own plate. France sits on the same damn tectonic plate that China does.


Ooh! Angry geographer!

Let me soothe your frustration with some Peters Projection.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun May 16, 2010 6:16 am

EvilDarkMagicians wrote:First laugh of the day. Thank you. :rofl:


Why laugh? NZ is already a lifestyle superpower.

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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sun May 16, 2010 6:22 am

Kulverint wrote:China will overtake within 15 years. It's a well known thing that pretty much everything you can buy in the shops will say on the bottom "Made in China."


Yes. Those things look like plastic crap, but we underestimate them because they're so cheap! They're actually robotic weaponry and we're all gonna die!

Oh, except Burundi, where people can't afford even the cheapest Chinese plastic crap. The next Cold War is going to be China. Versus Burundi.
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Postby Grandais » Sun May 16, 2010 6:33 am

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I personally don't think China will become a superpower. A great power, but not a superpower.
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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sun May 16, 2010 6:35 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
EvilDarkMagicians wrote:First laugh of the day. Thank you. :rofl:


Why laugh? NZ is already a lifestyle superpower.


As a somewhat effete Australian, I DO NOT consider "24-hour rolling mauls" to be a desirable lifestyle.

When I see the Kiwi invaders coming, I'm moving to Mexico. Which is (a) a long way from NZ, and (b) has the most favourable ratio of nubile women to nubile men.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun May 16, 2010 6:37 am

China will beat US in next 10-20 year.
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Postby Inherentjoydom » Sun May 16, 2010 6:37 am

The US of A will always be on top a bunch of commies will never overtake us!
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Postby Helertia » Sun May 16, 2010 6:38 am

Inherentjoydom wrote:The US of A will always be on top a bunch of commies will never overtake us!

Oh, not again....
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Postby Self--Esteem » Sun May 16, 2010 6:39 am

Nobel Hobos wrote:
Kulverint wrote:China will overtake within 15 years. It's a well known thing that pretty much everything you can buy in the shops will say on the bottom "Made in China."


Yes. Those things look like plastic crap, but we underestimate them because they're so cheap! They're actually robotic weaponry and we're all gonna die!

Oh, except Burundi, where people can't afford even the cheapest Chinese plastic crap. The next Cold War is going to be China. Versus Burundi.


Stereotypes.

China actually has some good quality products, nowadays. And many things which are produced in China are contracted by western companies, so there are at least some standards (excluding Microsoft and Sony here, since their products are obviously assembled by mentally ill panda bears).

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Postby Thrinia » Sun May 16, 2010 6:39 am

Inherentjoydom wrote:The US of A will always be on top a bunch of commies will never overtake us!

Perhaps..........
But The us will most likely fall apart just like the roman empire!
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Postby Inherentjoydom » Sun May 16, 2010 6:41 am

Thrinia wrote:
Inherentjoydom wrote:The US of A will always be on top a bunch of commies will never overtake us!

Perhaps..........
But The us will most likely fall apart just like the roman empire!

The romans went soft like Europe.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun May 16, 2010 6:41 am

Nobel Hobos wrote:As a somewhat effete Australian, I DO NOT consider "24-hour rolling mauls" to be a desirable lifestyle.

When I see the Kiwi invaders coming, I'm moving to Mexico. Which is (a) a long way from NZ, and (b) has the most favourable ratio of nubile women to nubile men.


Piffle, there nothing more beautiful than a well constructed and maintained rolling maul. The fact the NZers can keep it up for 24 hours at a stretch merely confirms their status as super-power in waiting.

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Postby Foolgard » Sun May 16, 2010 6:42 am

Easy - Iceland! One Volcano has already done more damage to the world (predominanlty European) economy than any military action in the past decade. :palm:

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Postby Nobel Hobos » Sun May 16, 2010 6:43 am

Kulverint wrote:
Jaunty tunes wrote:To me China is already the worlds superpower. The US days are over just like the English days are over. With superior numbers and an unknown military budget I wouldnt want to mess with china. And please dont mention the US would Nuke China. China has enough nukes too.

The next superpower will probably be India as China is limiting its population while India is not.


Yes, but China has a massive economy, and was the only world nation that was left pretty much unaffected by the recession.


Australia did OK. Because of the excellent economic management of the Rud coal we sell to China.

Let me tell you, we're proud of that. It's not like we're burning it ourselves, right?

India, on the other hand, is a very poor country, and cannot afford to pay for all it's citizens. That is why China is controlling the population.


With those strange plastic toys which leave a greasy residue on your hands if you touch them. They're a bit suss, but they're cheap and the kids love 'em.
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Postby Inherentjoydom » Sun May 16, 2010 6:48 am

Nobel Hobos wrote:
Kulverint wrote:
Jaunty tunes wrote:To me China is already the worlds superpower. The US days are over just like the English days are over. With superior numbers and an unknown military budget I wouldnt want to mess with china. And please dont mention the US would Nuke China. China has enough nukes too.

The next superpower will probably be India as China is limiting its population while India is not.


Yes, but China has a massive economy, and was the only world nation that was left pretty much unaffected by the recession.


Australia did OK. Because of the excellent economic management of the Rud coal we sell to China.

Let me tell you, we're proud of that. It's not like we're burning it ourselves, right?

India, on the other hand, is a very poor country, and cannot afford to pay for all it's citizens. That is why China is controlling the population.


With those strange plastic toys which leave a greasy residue on your hands if you touch them. They're a bit suss, but they're cheap and the kids love 'em.

The USA will ALWAYS attract the smartest people in the world so we will always be the best.
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Postby Helertia » Sun May 16, 2010 6:50 am

Inherentjoydom wrote:
Nobel Hobos wrote:
Kulverint wrote:
Jaunty tunes wrote:To me China is already the worlds superpower. The US days are over just like the English days are over. With superior numbers and an unknown military budget I wouldnt want to mess with china. And please dont mention the US would Nuke China. China has enough nukes too.

The next superpower will probably be India as China is limiting its population while India is not.


Yes, but China has a massive economy, and was the only world nation that was left pretty much unaffected by the recession.


Australia did OK. Because of the excellent economic management of the Rud coal we sell to China.

Let me tell you, we're proud of that. It's not like we're burning it ourselves, right?

India, on the other hand, is a very poor country, and cannot afford to pay for all it's citizens. That is why China is controlling the population.


With those strange plastic toys which leave a greasy residue on your hands if you touch them. They're a bit suss, but they're cheap and the kids love 'em.
The USA will ALWAYS attract the smartest people in the world so we will always be the best.


Actually, China has overtaken the USA in scientific output
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Postby Kiribait » Sun May 16, 2010 6:50 am

Inherentjoydom wrote:
Nobel Hobos wrote:
Kulverint wrote:
Jaunty tunes wrote:To me China is already the worlds superpower. The US days are over just like the English days are over. With superior numbers and an unknown military budget I wouldnt want to mess with china. And please dont mention the US would Nuke China. China has enough nukes too.

The next superpower will probably be India as China is limiting its population while India is not.


Yes, but China has a massive economy, and was the only world nation that was left pretty much unaffected by the recession.


Australia did OK. Because of the excellent economic management of the Rud coal we sell to China.

Let me tell you, we're proud of that. It's not like we're burning it ourselves, right?

India, on the other hand, is a very poor country, and cannot afford to pay for all it's citizens. That is why China is controlling the population.


With those strange plastic toys which leave a greasy residue on your hands if you touch them. They're a bit suss, but they're cheap and the kids love 'em.

The USA will ALWAYS attract the smartest people in the world so we will always be the best.


This that last part suppose to be a joke?

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Postby Inherentjoydom » Sun May 16, 2010 6:51 am

No it isn't you moron it's true.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun May 16, 2010 6:52 am

Inherentjoydom wrote:
Nobel Hobos wrote:
Kulverint wrote:
Jaunty tunes wrote:To me China is already the worlds superpower. The US days are over just like the English days are over. With superior numbers and an unknown military budget I wouldnt want to mess with china. And please dont mention the US would Nuke China. China has enough nukes too.

The next superpower will probably be India as China is limiting its population while India is not.


Yes, but China has a massive economy, and was the only world nation that was left pretty much unaffected by the recession.


Australia did OK. Because of the excellent economic management of the Rud coal we sell to China.

Let me tell you, we're proud of that. It's not like we're burning it ourselves, right?

India, on the other hand, is a very poor country, and cannot afford to pay for all it's citizens. That is why China is controlling the population.


With those strange plastic toys which leave a greasy residue on your hands if you touch them. They're a bit suss, but they're cheap and the kids love 'em.

The USA will ALWAYS attract the smartest people in the world so we will always be the best.

:palm: :palm:
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