Violent Thugs invade Melbourne in 3rd day of Riots

[Rosefort]

Check the above post in matters of the topic I've pointed out...

1) How are guns related to this topic...?

2) As for the 'right to protest', our state is still under the State of Emergency, and we've had cases increasing because of the disgruntled workers/or whatever you call them over their nonsense... As for whether the government has the right, frankly, it's a given delegated power, and will only be applied when it is necessary at times such as this.

1) They're not, it was an extreme position suitably employed to suggest how any protest is covered by my statement.
2) I honestly don't care. State of emergency, invasion in progress, whatever. If your government can decide when you can protest, you don't have a right to protest.

Okay, still, in a manner of this issue, no need to protest over something irrelevant and they do have a right to protest, but only in circumstances of dire situation then no. Though, I do think they should've consulted with these tradies... and the journalists were attacked... so logically, are they even protesting over the issue or making excuses to go out for their little day out?

[CoraSpia]

1) They're not, it was an extreme position suitably employed to suggest how any protest is covered by my statement.
2) I honestly don't care. State of emergency, invasion in progress, whatever. If your government can decide when you can protest, you don't have a right to protest.

Okay, still, in a manner of this issue, no need to protest over something irrelevant and they do have a right to protest, but only in circumstances of dire situation then no. Though, I do think they should've consulted with these tradies...

Dude if you want to protest because rules prevent you from pissing in the mouth of the state premier then they should be able to. It doesn't matter how worthy we think the protest is.

[Rosefort]

No-fly zone temporarily repealed

Media outlets have won the right to keep flying helicopters over Melbourne, after the Federal Court granted an interim stay on restrictions imposed yesterday by the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA).

Under the rules, news helicopters were required to seek approval from Victoria Police before flying and organisations had to delay broadcasting any footage of this week's Melbourne protests for an hour.

But the interim stay means CASA's flight restrictions will no longer be in effect until a full trial takes place, which may be as early as next week.

In handing down judgment, Justice Helen Rofe said there was "a serious question to be tried" over the orders, which came at the request of Victoria Police.

Dude if you want to protest because rules prevent you from pissing in the mouth of the state premier then they should be able to. It doesn't matter how worthy we think the protest is.

They shouldn't have protested, no matter what their cause or reason, I do not care, they've breached the orders, and the regulations. If it is about vaccine, or whatever they like to protest, I do not care. They should not have done so.

[Uiiop]

No-fly zone temporarily repealed

Media outlets have won the right to keep flying helicopters over Melbourne, after the Federal Court granted an interim stay on restrictions imposed yesterday by the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA).

Under the rules, news helicopters were required to seek approval from Victoria Police before flying and organisations had to delay broadcasting any footage of this week's Melbourne protests for an hour.

But the interim stay means CASA's flight restrictions will no longer be in effect until a full trial takes place, which may be as early as next week.

In handing down judgment, Justice Helen Rofe said there was "a serious question to be tried" over the orders, which came at the request of Victoria Police.

Dude if you want to protest because rules prevent you from pissing in the mouth of the state premier then they should be able to. It doesn't matter how worthy we think the protest is.

They shouldn't have protested, no matter what their cause or reason, I do not care, they've breached the orders, and the regulations. If it is about vaccine, or whatever they like to protest, I do not care. They should not have done so.

Well some of us don't necessarily think obeying the law in itself is an moral good nor that we can frame actions based on whether they followed it.

These people are way wrong but they should be punished by other means and causes(Even legal means to be clear in my case) than for skipping the government line to protest.

[Rosefort]

No-fly zone temporarily repealed

Media outlets have won the right to keep flying helicopters over Melbourne, after the Federal Court granted an interim stay on restrictions imposed yesterday by the Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA).

Under the rules, news helicopters were required to seek approval from Victoria Police before flying and organisations had to delay broadcasting any footage of this week's Melbourne protests for an hour.

But the interim stay means CASA's flight restrictions will no longer be in effect until a full trial takes place, which may be as early as next week.

In handing down judgment, Justice Helen Rofe said there was "a serious question to be tried" over the orders, which came at the request of Victoria Police.

They shouldn't have protested, no matter what their cause or reason, I do not care, they've breached the orders, and the regulations. If it is about vaccine, or whatever they like to protest, I do not care. They should not have done so.

Well some of us don't necessarily think obeying the law in itself is an moral good nor that we can frame actions based on whether they followed it.

These people are way wrong but they should be punished by other means and causes(Even legal means to be clear in my case) than for skipping the government line to protest.

I mean... you do make a point, but... maybe from my personal experience given that I've known family friends who are part of the police force itself, this doesn't excuse the reasons about the police action ... ;l Again, though it largely does depend on what action they would take and what are the consequences of the actions they've taken. We're trying to go back to normalcy, but these people keep hijacking I guess... These so-called freedom fighters are losing oxygen every day because the Victorian community does not support their behaviour. This is not just about being anti-mandated vaccination; they are anti-everything. They are anti-lockdown, they are anti the shutdown on international travel, they are anti-masks, they are anti-social distancing.

[Archinstinct]

Violent Thugs have pelted.Protestors with rubber bullets and pepperspray in the third day of Melbourne Anti-lockdown riots.A no fly zone has been imposed on Media helicopters and the Victorian State government has permitted the use of crowd control force against anyone involved in the Protests

The protests began last week when construction workers were told they could not have breaks in tea rooms because of the risk of spreading coronavirus. It was then made compulsory for construction workers to be vaccinated which resulted in the Construction, Forestry, Maritime, Mining and Energy Union calling for a public march, despite health warnings and lockdown order.

On Tuesday, pepper balls, foam baton rounds, smoke bombs and stinger grenades that deploy rubber pellets to shut down protesters. 500 additional police have been deployed to contain the dozens of protestors.

police commissioner Shane Patton said Melbourne had seen “significant unrest” over the past few days, and protesters wouldn’t be seeing any “cat and mouse” games. He “wasn’t clear” whether right-wing extremists were present on Tuesday, but was “aware” there was representation from neo-Nazi groups

So riotous rabble of NSG should the people of Victoria, Australia be allowed to protest despite the 600+ new daily cases in the state? Is the Victorian Government right to impose lockdown and deploy pepper balls and rubber bullets?? Should construction workers be allowed to get a cuppatea from the staff canteen?

Does Melbourne need liberation

Source?

[Canada CA]

Hilarious that NSG now applauds cops for beating people up because of their hatred for people who don't want to be forced to take a vaccine.

[Michel Meilleur]

Hilarious that NSG now applauds cops for beating people up because of their hatred for people who don't want to be forced to take a vaccine.

I mean, you have lads who unironically want hospitals not to treat peoples who refuse the vaccine. Is it really that surprising?

[Unstoppable Empire of Doom]

I think its out of the top 10 most dangerous jobs 7 of them are in the field of construction. In the US construction workers continued building during the pandemic and never shut down. One outhouse is commonly shared by 20 workers and there is nowhere to wash your hands. You work with new temps every other day. The work is close quarters so social distancing is impossible. Nobody wears masks.

So some person who has never held rebar before is going to sit in their air conditioned office tell these people they cant drink tea inside and have to get vaccinated..... for their safety?

[Turk Cumhuriyeti]

Bravo! İm with the protesters. İn big part of the world you cant receive or can very difficultly receive adequate medical care from the state - even if you pay for it, its difficult again. But when you DONT want the state to "take care" of you and your health, the immedeately starts to "care" for you and to try to "save your life" even if you didnt ask for this "care".

[Bear Stearns]

So we go from defunding the police to funding the police state in the span of about a year.

[Cosmic79]

They are not large protests, simply a small disgruntled group. The vast, vast majority are staying within the bounds of the law. Something not mentioned but critical to understanding this: all construction, with small exceptions, has been shut down. Builders had very poor compliance with health measures but were seen as politically crucial and important to the economy. I

People there are being arrested just for being outside. Not doing a damn thing, simply being outside, even though it's virtually impossible to spread or catch covid just walking around. Honestly Australia has gone so North Korea lately that I think a little insurrection is well-justified.

And a no-fly zone for media helicopters? If that red flag was any bigger you could cover the whole continent with it.

And I hate to sound like a broken record, but police arresting people will spread the virus far and wide. You cannot enforce a lockdown without spreading the virus.

No one is being arrested for "being outside".

The no-fly zone was probably to avoid any media coverage which might encourage more to join. This power is being tested in the courts.

Agree with this. Anti-vaxxers are a small but loud minority. We shouldn't be giving them any publicity.

So we go from defunding the police to funding the police state in the span of about a year.

Good point!

[Salus Maior]

Seems to be par for the course in liberal democracies these days.

[Great Algerstonia]

So we go from defunding the police to funding the police state in the span of about a year.

The faux progressivism is quite funny.

[The Kingdom of the Three Isles]

Dude, I actually live in Melbourne and those protesters urinate on the Shrine of Remembrance. Stop calling the police thugs when they are just keeping law and order while those protestors disgrace a thing called the common good.

[The Kingdom of the Three Isles]

Protests shouldn’t be allowed, especially under COVID conditions.

If the Melbourne police went ahead and enforced a blanket ban on protests while enforcing such a decree with reasonable and proportionate force, it’s something I would stand behind.

Public health safety and law and order must come first.

Not like arresting thousands of people spreads the virus or anything...

Yeah, not like the spread already happened in the protests.