Cancel Culture thread I: *Insert bad joke here*

[Cosmic79]

Cancel culture is mob rule on the internet. People who support it should get a taste of it. It's never good, no matter how shitty the guy you are trying to "cancel" is.

[Vassenor]

Cancel culture is mob rule on the internet. People who support it should get a taste of it. It's never good, no matter how shitty the guy you are trying to "cancel" is.

Define cancellation in this context.

[Czervenika]

Cancel culture itself is not inherently bad as people should be held accountable for problematic actions. However, oftentimes it becomes a witch hunt. An individual should not be bullied and harassed for things they said or did years ago. Views do change over time.

[The Huskar Social Union]

and if it aint real then heres a list of things the left wants to cancel:
And heres a list of thing lefties wanna cancel:

Okay this should be hilarious

-Christianity

Hah no, a lot of leftists will criticise Christianity as a religion and its institutions because its responsible for a lot of fucked up shit in the world like almost every other religion. For my own home i point to the Magdalene laundries and the treatment of the women sent to them by the Church, many of whom were treated like shit and some killed through neglect and abuse. Also the Mother and Baby homes such as at Tuam where a mass grave of dead children was found on the site of a former maternity home partially run by the Catholic church where children were taken from their mothers and put up for illegal adoptions in America and Canada and many more straight up killed through neglect and abuse. Same shit happened in Canada and thats just a handful of examples.

-The republican party

The US Republican Party has been hijacked by a cavalcade of far right cunts who attempted to overthrow American democracy and install a dictator as well as being a party that pushes incredibly hostile and backwards views towards women, racial minorities and more. Plenty of stuff that deserves rightful criticism.

-conservatives who express their opinion

Lmao no, you just dont understand the difference between freedom of speech and freedom of consequence like a few very vocal conservatives who think they can act like cunts and get away with it.

-the middle class

mfw

-pro life

Yeah no leftists tend to be pro-choice and there are still some that are pro life, i point once again to my home where members of Sinn Fein, a leftwing party broke off due to their opposition to the party's stance on Abortion and the SDLP, another leftwing party being quite mixed on Abortion. What leftists want is for women to have the right to choose if they want an abortion and for pro-lifers to stop trying to control womens bodies as some of them tend to stop caring once a child has been born and are more than happy for it to grow up in poverty.

rich people

No we want Rich people, especially billionaires who profit off of the labour of working people across the world to pay their fair share they could easily afford and that they would not even notice given the rate some of them earn money. It would be a drop in the ocean for them in terms of money. Many rich people are also cunts who treat poorer people like dog shit and send them off to die in war.

-facists

Fascists are responsible for the murder of tens of millions of people and the overthrowing of democracy in numerous nations, installing violent repressive states. It deserves to be fought at every instance.

-anti communism

"Leftists = Communism" take another drink for the US education system.

-american history

No, American leftists just want you to admit its not all sunshine and roses where the kind natives gave all their land and stuff to white people out of the charity of their own hear then just all disappeared

-George Washington

Historical figures can still be lauded as heroes of the nation or right in their time and still criticised for less than savoury things they also did at the time because History should not be viewed through a lens of propaganda or black and white morality.

-Abraham Lincoln

See above also this is one of the weirder ones lmao

-police officers

No leftists want police forces to be restructured and to not act like paramilitary organisations that kill tons of innocent people and are unbelievably corrupt. Police should serve the interests of the people and keep order, not murder people based on skin colour or national identity. I point to the history of my own home again with the Troubles where the police force was an overwhelmingly bigoted institution that targeted Irish Nationalists almost exclusively and killed or imprisoned many innocent people. Also see the conduct of American police over the last few decades.

-veterns

lmao no, people want to be able to criticise the actions of veterans that were responsible for war crimes against innocent people, such as massacres, rapes etc and to not look at conflicts through a propaganda lens with the attitude of "Our Boys (TM) are the best and can do no wrong!" True patriots want their country to rectify its crimes and that includes wanting its soldiers that shame their uniforms and commit horrible acts to be held accountable. See US warcrimes in the Middle East and Vietnam, the conduct of the British army in NI and others etc etc.

-soldiers and sailors in the armed forces

See above. Also we tend to not like people being sent off to die in bullshit wars that do nothing but line the pockets of the rich.

-Free speech

Aye sure . As i mentioned above freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequences. People have every right to tell you to do one for saying shit they dont like or threatening people or hate speech. Also American Conservatives have actively censored tonnes of people in US history, the dixie chicks are a good recent example, you know the band that had their reputation destroyed for daring to oppose the Iraq War and Bush?

- fetuses

Foetuses are not living and women should have the right to choose if they want to carry a pregnancy to term, especially in cases of rape and sexual assault.

-Jewish people

Criticising Israel does not = Wanting to "cancel" jewish people lmao cope

-donald trump

Donald Trump is a wannabe tyrant who is responsible for the attempted destruction of US democracy, the toxification of the Republican Party and the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans due to spreading fake news and misinformation about COVID and Vaccines. Also cheered on his cult of personality as it tried to overthrow an election after he thtew a tantum for losing.

-Isreal

See above. Israel does plenty of heinous shit that deserves criticism and whilst some leftwingers want to see Israel no longer exist as a nation they are a minority. The majority of us want to see them held accountable for their crimes and to stop murdering people in over the top heavy handed attacks.

- Law and order in major cities

Bullshit. We want police to stop acting like paramilitaries and brutally attacking people.

- anyone who has allegations of anything against them (Except cuomo)

lmao this one is just fucking stupid.

- Mitch Mcconnell

McConnell is a cunt, who like trump is responsible for the deaths of tonnes of people and for actively making the lives of Americans worse. We want him held accountable. Like Trump.

- peace of mind that your family is safe from criminals

mfw

- any food brand with an African American on the packaging

No, some people just have concerns about branding or commercials being based in racial stereotypes.

-the North Dakota Fighting Sioux

Wow imagine people who almost had their entire culture and nation wiped out being upset about their image being used for a fucking sports team. The horror.

-the Chicago Blackhawks

See above.

- The cleaveland Indians

See above.

- the Florida seminoles

See above.

-college football

what?

- people who say alm

People who say All Lives matter dont give a fuck about all lives they just use it as a way of shutting down arguments or discussions about the reality that black americans are still treated like shit and disproportionally killed by law enforcement. Black Lives matter does not mean all other lives do not matter, it means "Black Lives also matter, please fucking fix this"

-people who say blue lives matter

Police officer lives obviously matter, the problem is that people tend to say "Blue lives matter" when police who actively murdered people are being held accountable, because they have this warped notion that no police officer could ever be bad or because like above about BLM they dont want to face reality about issues in their country.

-dissenters

... what?

-bakers that refuse to bake cakes for gay people

No they want gay people to be given access to services like everyone else and not denied for religious reasons for example.

doctors who refuse to give transgender therapy.

Or they want trans people to have access to medical services and advice they need in order to live healthy lives because Trans people tend to be treated like shit and face a ton of medical issues. I have issues about it being given to younger people, like teenagers but when they get older they should be allowed to have these services.

[Grave_n_idle]

Cancel culture is mob rule on the internet. People who support it should get a taste of it. It's never good, no matter how shitty the guy you are trying to "cancel" is.

So you're going to teach the people who are 'cancelling' things a lesson by... canceling them? And that won't be good, by your own admission?

This seems... confused.

[The Huskar Social Union]

That no doubt took a hell of a lot more effort to make and post that it probably deserved.

Now to address the main topic. Some cunts do want to shut down anything they dislike or people they disagree with, that is true, especially on the internet, but its not a one way street and conservatives do it all the fucking time as well. And some people just use it as a scapegoat when they get called out for being a cunt and wana play the victim card which is laughable but its an easy way to rile people up.

Its often used by people who blatantly spread misinformation about serious issues, you know like a certain pandemic that effected the world pretty heavily over the last year and a half where tonnes of people spread blatant lies and manipulated people into a frenzy of bullshit over how vaccines are gona kill them and masks are tyranny. Then when these fearmongerers are called out on it they go "They are trying to cancel me! This is oppression! I know the real truths!"

Its a phrase that has lost all meaning in some online circles and a lot of the time is bandied around for absolute bullshit reasons, just like Marxist, Liberal, Nazi, Cuck, Critical Race theory etc

[Immortan Khan]

Foetuses are not living

:thonking:

[The Huskar Social Union]

Foetuses are not living

:thonking:

Typing quickly, leave me alone!

Or not you can say whatever you want.

[Torrocca]

Setting aside my simple opinion that cancel culture isn't real and is just some hilarious phrase that a bunch of right-wingers have adopted as a coping mechanism when one of their ilk does bad shit and justifiably gets called out for it, I've gotta say:

and if it aint real then heres a list of things the left wants to cancel:
[...]
-facists
-anti communism
[...]

It's incredibly telling that you put anti-communism right after "facists." Never mind the fact that you think "canceling" Fascism is somehow bad. Makes me wonder how and why your train of thought immediately went from Fascism to anti-Communism*.

*Well, not really. Anti-Communism in practice has historically demonstrated that it's just a road either directly to Fascism or indirectly as a form of passive support for it.

[Archinstinct]

#CancelEverybody #ChimichangasRTasty

[Postauthoritarian America]

It's Consequence Culture. flfy

[Eahland]

And heres a list of thing lefties wanna cancel:
[...]
-facists
[...]

So, what you're saying is, you're a fascist and you're mad because that isn't acceptable in decent society?

[Czervenika]

Lmao, imagine getting upset that fascism is being cancelled in the 21st century.

[Dylar]

and if it aint real then heres a list of things the left wants to cancel:
And heres a list of thing lefties wanna cancel:

-The republican party
-conservatives who express their opinion
-rich people
-facists
-anti communism
-police officers
-donald trump
-Isreal
- Law and order in major cities
- anyone who has allegations of anything against them (Except cuomo)
- Mitch Mcconnell
- people who say alm
-people who say blue lives matter

This is based

-the North Dakota Fighting Sioux
-the Chicago Blackhawks
- The cleaveland Indians
- the Florida seminoles

This is extremely based because I don't like any of these teams

-Christianity
-the middle class
-pro life
-american history
-George Washington
-Abraham Lincoln
-veterns
-soldiers and sailors in the armed forces
-Free speech
- fetuses
-Jewish people
- peace of mind that your family is safe from criminals
- any food brand with an African American on the packaging
-college football
-dissenters
-bakers that refuse to bake cakes for gay people
-doctors who refuse to give transgender therapy.

Obviously cringe, but I think you're overreacting a lot at most of this

[Great Algerstonia]

I don't like cancel culture.

You're gonna get canceled for saying that

[Taxonomic Kingdoms]

Its literally like Puritan New England.

Nah, man, Puritans were not woke.

I understand the point you were trying to make with that comparison, but I don't think the parallels are that strong. The strict social codes are there, but the values that they are trying to promote are dramatically different.

[Taxonomic Kingdoms]

Cancel culture is mob rule on the internet. People who support it should get a taste of it. It's never good, no matter how shitty the guy you are trying to "cancel" is.

No, it makes a big difference how shitty the guy being canceled is.

There's a big difference between canceling a guy because he's a serial rapist vs. canceling a guy because he tried to dress up as Pocahontas and it looked terrible. I'm OK with it when people cancel serial rapists.

[The Andorian System]

and if it aint real then heres a list of things the left wants to cancel:
And heres a list of thing lefties wanna cancel:
-Christianity
-The republican party
-conservatives who express their opinion
-the middle class
-pro life
-rich people
-facists
-anti communism
-american history
-George Washington
-Abraham Lincoln
-police officers
-veterns
-soldiers and sailors in the armed forces
-Free speech
- fetuses
-Jewish people
-donald trump
-Isreal
- Law and order in major cities
- anyone who has allegations of anything against them (Except cuomo)
- Mitch Mcconnell
- peace of mind that your family is safe from criminals
- any food brand with an African American on the packaging
-the North Dakota Fighting Sioux
-the Chicago Blackhawks
- The cleaveland Indians
- the Florida seminoles
-college football
- people who say alm
-people who say blue lives matter
-dissenters
-bakers that refuse to bake cakes for gay people
-doctors who refuse to give transgender therapy.

Apparently, Northern Connecticut is located in Fantasyland.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

It's just a modern damnatio memoriae, except everyone has the ability to call one.

[Picairn]

It's just a modern damnatio memoriae, except everyone has the ability to call one.

This is a misunderstanding of damnatio memoriae. Under a real one, your name would be scrubbed from all official documents, your properties seized, your statues reworked, your face erased from all inscriptions and paintings, and may even have biographies and records changed to disappear your involvement.

Cancel culture does not have such enormous powers. Best it can get is having someone fired, and there's no stopping said person from finding new employment in right-wing media, specifically searching for cancel culture incidents to ramp up its propaganda.

[Uiiop]

It's an word that encompasses an real thing but envisions and frames in hypocritical and ahistorical nonsense but it's effectively unreal.

[Heloin]

-facists

How the west has fallen when a person can’t happily walk down the street in their Waffen SS uniform. A spring in their step and deep rooted racism in their hearts.

[Outer Sparta]

-facists

How the west has fallen when a person can’t happily walk down the street in their Waffen SS uniform. A spring in their step and deep rooted racism in their hearts.

The OP has misspelled the words fascist, Cleveland Indians, veterans, and Israel in that post. How can the left possibly cancel those things if they aren't even the right things? Whatever will they do???

As for cancelling fascists, isn't that what WWII was about? The US fighting Nazi Germany? I wonder what the OP would think of American involvement in WWII against Nazi Germany.

[Pasong Tirad]

Oh no, a sports team has to change its name because it's racist. The horror.

Anyway those teams still exist and they still probably make millions so I don't know what's the problem here sports teams change names all the time.

[The Alma Mater]

Let us crosspost.

Considering the right has been cancelling things for decades, nay centuries - their claim that it is "something the left does" already was projection

I posted this elsewhere months ago:

A non-exhaustive list of targets of right-wing and reactionary "cancel culture":

- Rap music
- Rock music
- Grand Theft Auto
- The Last of Us 2
- Mortal Kombat
- Mass Effect 3
- Dungeons and Dragons
- WAP
- Almost every novel read in schools
- Bill Nye
- His Dark Materials
- Any famous woman who is sex positive
- The theory of evolution
- Sex ed
- Every famous atheist
- Atheist kids too
- Trans kids
- Greta Thunberg
- David Hogg & Emma Gonzalez
- Sandy Hook Families
- Trans athletes
- Trans people in public bathrooms
- Lesbians in public bathrooms who look trans
- Cannabis
- Psychedelics
- Kratom
- Mothers feeding their kids in public
- Women's nipples
- Muslims
- Yoga
- Twerking
- Colin Kaepernick
- Black Lives Matter
- Antifascism
- Soy based food
- College professors
- Homeless people
- MLK
- Malcolm X
- Eugene Debs
- Emma Goldman
- Jeremiah Wright
- Fred Hampton & The Black Panthers
- Students for a Democratic Society
- Conscientious objectors
- Marxists
- Anarchists
- Socialists
- Social democrats
- Bernie Sanders
- Nina Turner
- Jeremy Corbyn
- ACORN
- Planned Parenthood
- The Satanic Temple
- BDS supporters
- Vegans
- Childfree people
- Baggy pants
- The singular they
- "No problem" as a response to thank you