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Postby Fauzjhia » Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:34 am

really. you need to make a thread about (cancel culture.) which I am not even part of .. And Which I always opposed for multiple reasons, mainly because it does not help left-wing ideologies.

You claimed Left-wing want to cancel many things. but we should put some context on these.
1 -Christianity - false, we can't prevent people from believing in god,
2 -The republican party - if they could, I know many people who would cancel the democratic party as well.
3 -conservatives who express their opinion - No, People are free to express opinion. except if you tell us that saying the elections was stolen is a conservative opinion, because that's proven to be false.
4-the middle class - That aint truth at all.
5-pro life - answered, we simply want to have the right to choice, if a women want to give birth despite opposition from her family, we also support it.
6-rich people - no, there'll always be rich people, however the current social inequalities between do not exist for the benefits of the poorest, so they are not fair at all.
7-facists - Do you even know what fascism stand for ? because if you knew, you would not be able to let it exist.
8-anti communism - Anti-communism has always been wrong, and I don't know how many deaths can linked to the USA anti-communists activities,
9-american history - just false,
10-George Washington - just false
11-Abraham Lincoln - false, we dislike the claim conservatives make about the former president.
12-police officers - false, we don't want a police full of racists, that just discredit the whole job. And you should, USA has a big history with innocent being arrests
13-veterns - aint truth at all. And I remain you that veterans, soldiers who come back, are normally considered to be zeros.
14-soldiers and sailors in the armed forces - aint truth at all.
15-Free speech - false. left-wing people come in countless ideologies
16- fetuses - Fetus do not always develop into human beings.
17-Jewish people - false, we are not anti-semites
18-donald trump - the worst president, a man who wanted to stay in power by sacrificing his own partisans, dishonest, and I'll pass on the countless other defaults we gave him. the simply fact that he sold his president pardon, instead of pardoning those who stormed the capitol in his names meant he only saw them as tools.
19-Isreal - we oppose the way the state of ISRAEL oppress Palestinians and keep them enclosed in the gaza band, stripping them of any future they could ever dream of.
20- Law and order in major cities - that's just false.
21- anyone who has allegations of anything against them (Except cuomo) - that's a bit false.
22- Mitch Mcconnell - An hypocryte politician and mostly ruthless. we know who this guy, and we have strong reason to not like him.
23- peace of mind that your family is safe from criminals - no, we're bursting the bubble, innocent people being jailed does not make you really (safer from criminals)
24- any food brand with an African American on the packaging -- pretty sure that's the first I heard.
25-the North Dakota Fighting Sioux - I don't remember asking to change this name
26-the Chicago Blackhawks - don't remember asking for this name to change, they could add a space and not one would care.
27- The cleaveland Indians - that ones I must is just discriminatory and just wrong. if refer to how we considered the natives to be (indians), when they were not in India at all.
28- the Florida seminoles - don't remember asking to that.
29-college football - not really.
30- people who say alm - no, Bernie Sanders said it.
31-people who say blue lives matter - no, don't remember that
32-dissenters - don't remember wanting to execute dissenters
33-bakers that refuse to bake cakes for gay people - You can bake cake, without trying to impose your religious on everyone else.
34-doctors who refuse to give transgender therapy - your a doctor, you have a job to do, you should not try to use it to impose your religious values.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:34 am

Northern Connecticut wrote:https://time.com/4385755/faith-in-america/


So your evidence of a widespread movement to ban Christianity is an op ed of one guy insisting he is being persecuted for being a Christian and only for being a Christian.
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:35 am

Northern Connecticut wrote:https://time.com/4385755/faith-in-america/

Lol what a crock

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Postby Fauzjhia » Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:35 am

Northern Connecticut wrote:https://time.com/4385755/faith-in-america/




naw your free to believe what ever you want
you just don't get to impose it on everyone else. we want to believe what ever we want too.
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Postby Antipatros » Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:38 am

Not a mod, you should really beef up that OP, Northern Connecticut.

Clearly this topic has a lot of potential. I would hate to see it get locked.

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Postby Grazilina » Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:40 am

I think cancel culture is real, and it can bring good and bad change.

Sometimes cancel culture can crack down on racist or sexist people that don't deserve all the fame they're getting. Sometimes it can too quickly destroy someone's fame from one action that occurred 10+ years ago. However, I think bringing these people's terrible actions to light for society to see is important because it really shows what type of people we're idolizing. In 2021, can you believe we're still supporting and giving racists, rapists, and sexists money and fame for being indecent human beings? Cancel culture can be productive in moderation if you're not one extreme or the other.

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:40 am

Northern Connecticut wrote:why dont you actually read the list.
The sports teams were forced to change their name.
People who support police officers are branded as racist.
Not one democrat cared about cuomos allegations.
The dems wanna ban Christianity.
I can go on and on!


The question isn't whether you 'can go on and on'. The question is whether you intend to explain or defend any of it, or even explain what you MEAN by it.
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Postby Page » Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:46 am

I don't want to hear about cancel culture from people who clutch pearls over gay rappers and female nipples.
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Postby Fauzjhia » Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:47 am

Grazilina wrote:I think cancel culture is real, and it can bring good and bad change.

Sometimes cancel culture can crack down on racist or sexist people that don't deserve all the fame they're getting. Sometimes it can too quickly destroy someone's fame from one action that occurred 10+ years ago. However, I think bringing these people's terrible actions to light for society to see is important because it really shows what type of people we're idolizing. In 2021, can you believe we're still supporting and giving racists, rapists, and sexists money and fame for being indecent human beings? Cancel culture can be productive in moderation if you're not one extreme or the other.



Ho Cancel Culture is Real

but it is not what conservative say it is. it is not left-wing.
we had an example of it in Canada, in a burning books ceremony performed by someone who claimed to be indigenous, but was not according to the communities own records. And every politicians condemned it.

yet conservatives love to link it to left-wing ideologies.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:49 am

Grazilina wrote:I think cancel culture is real...


Do you?

What is it?

Because looking over the list presented so far, it seems to be a nonsense term that people use for everything from a perception of opposition, to corporate boycotts.

I get the feeling it doesn't actually MEAN anything, so how can it be 'real'?
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Postby Genivaria » Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:05 am

Northern Connecticut wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Cancel Culture isn't even real. It's a scareword that rightists use to try and demonise people for having opinions they don't like or the idea of acts like sexual assault having consequences.


Two words for ya: Cleaveland Indians.

Two more words, Dixie Chicks.
The Right has been doing cancel culture alot longer.

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Postby Genivaria » Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:06 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Northern Connecticut wrote:why dont you actually read the list.
The sports teams were forced to change their name.
People who support police officers are branded as racist.
Not one democrat cared about cuomos allegations.
The dems wanna ban Christianity.
I can go on and on!


The question isn't whether you 'can go on and on'. The question is whether you intend to explain or defend any of it, or even explain what you MEAN by it.

Indeed, 99 examples of bullshit does not add up to 1 actual point.

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Postby Senkaku » Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:14 am

Northern Connecticut wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Cancel Culture isn't even real. It's a scareword that rightists use to try and demonise people for having opinions they don't like or the idea of acts like sexual assault having consequences.


Two words for ya: Cleaveland Indians.

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Postby Necroghastia » Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:17 am

Northern Connecticut wrote:I don't like cancel culture.

*proceeds to make strawmen to cancel "the left"*
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Postby Esternial » Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:20 am

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Postby Duvniask » Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:25 am

The real cancel culture in America started after 9/11. Support the troops or else! That was a true highpoint of American insanity.
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Postby Kowani » Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:57 am

what the fuck even is "canceling"
it seems to refer to everything from "people withdrawing public support from a thing" to "mean comments on twitter a few days" to "company ceasing to sell something" to "public outrage driving people from their jobs" and these things cannot really be grouped together (unless you realize that this is just status threat all over again)
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Postby Dakini » Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:58 am

Northern Connecticut wrote:https://time.com/4385755/faith-in-america/

" By Mary Eberstadt
June 29, 2016 9:48 AM EDT
Eberstadt is the author of several books, including It’s Dangerous to Believe and How the West Really Lost God."

An opinion article by someone with an obvious bias doesn't really mean much. The data suggest that the Christian right are driving people away from Christianity with their bigotry and general fuckery in politics.

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Postby Dakini » Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:59 am

Duvniask wrote:The real cancel culture in America started after 9/11. Support the troops or else! That was a true highpoint of American insanity.

Actually McCarthyism is much older than the right-wing cancel culture that arose post 9/11.

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Postby Esalia » Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:05 pm

Kowani wrote:what the fuck even is "canceling"
it seems to refer to everything from "people withdrawing public support from a thing" to "mean comments on twitter a few days" to "company ceasing to sell something" to "public outrage driving people from their jobs" and these things cannot really be grouped together (unless you realize that this is just status threat all over again)


Cancelling means whatever it needs to mean for people to make angry posts about "left bad because people on the internet said mean things".
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Postby Immortan Khan » Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:05 pm

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Postby Gravlen » Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:35 pm

The OP is old hat, a day late and a dollar short. Nobody gives a shit about that lame 'Cancel Culture' bullshit now. It's months since that was the biggest threat facing the US

The desperate need for cancelling 'cancel culture' got cancelled when they found a more race-baity thing to go after. The right is all pro cancellation these days, and they're busy cancelling books, authors and concepts, and removing them from schools and libraries.

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Postby Gravlen » Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:36 pm

Northern Connecticut wrote:I don't like cancel culture.

What's your position on free speech?
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Postby The Holy Therns » Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:39 pm

Gravlen wrote:The OP is old hat, a day late and a dollar short. Nobody gives a shit about that lame 'Cancel Culture' bullshit now. It's months since that was the biggest threat facing the US

The desperate need for cancelling 'cancel culture' got cancelled when they found a more race-baity thing to go after. The right is all pro cancellation these days, and they're busy cancelling books, authors and concepts, and removing them from schools and libraries.



No, you see, it's only cancelling when the left do it. Even when they don't do it.
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Postby Gravlen » Mon Sep 20, 2021 12:56 pm

The Holy Therns wrote:
Gravlen wrote:The OP is old hat, a day late and a dollar short. Nobody gives a shit about that lame 'Cancel Culture' bullshit now. It's months since that was the biggest threat facing the US

The desperate need for cancelling 'cancel culture' got cancelled when they found a more race-baity thing to go after. The right is all pro cancellation these days, and they're busy cancelling books, authors and concepts, and removing them from schools and libraries.



No, you see, it's only cancelling when the left do it. Even when they don't do it.

You're not wrong. We have a good example in this thread even. Our dear OP thinks this is one of the things lefties (whatever they think that means) want to cancel:

Northern Connecticut wrote:-anti communism

As he demonstrates, when those not on the left wants to cancel communism, it's just being "anti communism". No cancelling going on there, of course not. But if you're opposed to communism being cancelled, then you're trying to cancel "anti communism".

It's a term without any substance.
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