Should brothels exist?

[Maricarland]

Anyone who is a prostitute needs a means to escape that tragic fate.

If someone is being forced to be prostitute than yes we should help them escape that life. But if someone is willingly a prostitute then there is no problem. Some people would consider prostitution to be a dream job, others would take the job because they need a job or want work and for whatever reason they decided to accept a job or pursue a job in prostitution.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Yes.

[Hurdergaryp]

Yes.

There you have it, people. This thread is over. Nothing to see here, please go home.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Yes.

There you have it, people. This thread is over. Nothing to see here, please go home.

I'm sorry that my simple answer to a simple question doesn't meet your lavishly extravagant expectations of what you deem adequate for a response. Please accept my most sincere of apologies for not meeting your standard of approval. You being bothered by my answer truly is insufferable and greatly troubles me down to the very core of my physical and spiritual well being. How I shall continue on from this point forward in time, I dare not comprehend.

Good day.

[Hurdergaryp]

There you have it, people. This thread is over. Nothing to see here, please go home.

I'm sorry that my simple answer to a simple question doesn't meet your lavishly extravagant expectations of what you deem adequate for a response. Please accept my most sincere of apologies for not meeting your standard of approval. You being bothered by my answer truly is insufferable and greatly troubles me down to the very core of my physical and spiritual well being. How I shall continue on from this point forward in time, I dare not comprehend.

Good day.

This, as such, is an exemplary case of miscommunication. You see, I do actually agree with your succinct answer to the question posed in the title of the thread. However, given my lamentable tendency to indulge in verbosity every now and then, I simply could not resist responding as I did. A simple "ditto" would have sufficed, yet I chose otherwise. And now we find ourselves here, amidst all this awkwardness.

[The European Universal Exploration Union]

Anyone who is a prostitute needs a means to escape that tragic fate.

I often feel the same about Catholics. But somehow, that is borderline trolling.
So maybe we can cool it with the blanket condemnations?

[Esternial]

I'm sorry that my simple answer to a simple question doesn't meet your lavishly extravagant expectations of what you deem adequate for a response. Please accept my most sincere of apologies for not meeting your standard of approval. You being bothered by my answer truly is insufferable and greatly troubles me down to the very core of my physical and spiritual well being. How I shall continue on from this point forward in time, I dare not comprehend.

Good day.

This, as such, is an exemplary case of miscommunication. You see, I do actually agree with your succinct answer to the question posed in the title of the thread. However, given my lamentable tendency to indulge in verbosity every now and then, I simply could not resist responding as I did. A simple "ditto" would have sufficed, yet I chose otherwise. And now we find ourselves here, amidst all this awkwardness.

If vicarious embarrassment was a currency I'd be Jeff Bezos.

[Ethel mermania]

I'm sorry that my simple answer to a simple question doesn't meet your lavishly extravagant expectations of what you deem adequate for a response. Please accept my most sincere of apologies for not meeting your standard of approval. You being bothered by my answer truly is insufferable and greatly troubles me down to the very core of my physical and spiritual well being. How I shall continue on from this point forward in time, I dare not comprehend.

Good day.

This, as such, is an exemplary case of miscommunication. You see, I do actually agree with your succinct answer to the question posed in the title of the thread. However, given my lamentable tendency to indulge in verbosity every now and then, I simply could not resist responding as I did. A simple "ditto" would have sufficed, yet I chose otherwise. And now we find ourselves here, amidst all this awkwardness.

Welcome to NationStates

[Hurdergaryp]

This, as such, is an exemplary case of miscommunication. You see, I do actually agree with your succinct answer to the question posed in the title of the thread. However, given my lamentable tendency to indulge in verbosity every now and then, I simply could not resist responding as I did. A simple "ditto" would have sufficed, yet I chose otherwise. And now we find ourselves here, amidst all this awkwardness.

Welcome to NationStates

Welcome to NationStates General, to be precise. At first I wanted to follow up the previous sentence with "we are all whores here", but it is not as if any of us get paid for our presence in this place.

[Heloin]

Welcome to NationStates

Welcome to NationStates General, to be precise. At first I wanted to follow up the previous sentence with "we are all whores here", but it is not as if any of us get paid for our presence in this place.

Speak for yourself.

[Ethel mermania]

Welcome to NationStates

Welcome to NationStates General, to be precise. At first I wanted to follow up the previous sentence with "we are all whores here", but it is not as if any of us get paid for our presence in this place.

Some of us deserve too.

[Sundiata]

Anyone who is a prostitute needs a means to escape that tragic fate.

I often feel the same about Catholics. But somehow, that is borderline trolling.
So maybe we can cool it with the blanket condemnations?

I'm not asking you to like Catholics. This thread is about brothels and brothels are disgusting.

[Hurdergaryp]

Welcome to NationStates General, to be precise. At first I wanted to follow up the previous sentence with "we are all whores here", but it is not as if any of us get paid for our presence in this place.

Speak for yourself.

Good to see they're trying to keep the talent onboard.

Welcome to NationStates General, to be precise. At first I wanted to follow up the previous sentence with "we are all whores here", but it is not as if any of us get paid for our presence in this place.

Some of us deserve to.

Depends on the services provided, really. Snark is not a commodity consumers are willing to pay for.

[Ethel mermania]

Speak for yourself.

Good to see they're trying to keep the talent onboard.

Some of us deserve to.

Depends on the services provided, really. Snark is not a commodity consumers are willing to pay for.

Crap

[Unstoppable Empire of Doom]

I often feel the same about Catholics. But somehow, that is borderline trolling.
So maybe we can cool it with the blanket condemnations?

I'm not asking you to like Catholics. This thread is about brothels and brothels are disgusting.

They are far cleaner than the alternative.....

[HISPIDA]

I often feel the same about Catholics. But somehow, that is borderline trolling.
So maybe we can cool it with the blanket condemnations?

I'm not asking you to like Catholics. This thread is about brothels and brothels are disgusting.

better than the alternative

[Katganistan]

We have seen in countries where sex and brothels are banned they have high rape rates. For instance, on the Indian sub-continent Sex is a very taboo subject and men are forced to repress their sexual desires and I have seen what happens to them.

No. Just no. It is a culture where women are treated as worthless, and that is why men there feel they can rape them. It is NOT because they are "forced to repress their sexual desires".

Rapists are absolutely 100% in control of themselves, and decide to beat/coerce/force others into submission. They do not get a "poor repressed instinctual animal" pass. Because if that's what you're doing -- saying they do it because they can't help themselves -- then the answer is to put them them into a cage preemptively for everyone else's safety.

Pimps wouldn't be needed if it wasn't the case that some customers decide to try to skip out on paying or become abusive towards sex workers.

Tbh a pimp isn't the only guarantor against violence, so we shouldn't act as if it is. Sex workers uniting themselves is a much better measure against that.

As is decriminalization and hiring security/bouncers/bodyguards.

Brothels do not get rid of incels.

How would it be involuntary with legal access to prostitutes? Sounds more like they cease to exist and become cels...

Because they feel they are OWED sex, not that they should pay for it.

[Stellar Colonies]

We have seen in countries where sex and brothels are banned they have high rape rates. For instance, on the Indian sub-continent Sex is a very taboo subject and men are forced to repress their sexual desires and I have seen what happens to them.

The "men are horny rape monkeys" trope strikes again.

[Katganistan]

As opposed to construction workers, chemical factory jobs, and waste disposal?

But prostitution doesn't give much to the society. Those jobs help build buildings and stuff therefore they are important. I don't think the service given by prostitutes is that important for the society.

Then you want to get rid of athletes, singers, artists and actors? Because they don't provide a tangible product either.... unless you're going to be inconsistent in why those jobs are valuable to society.

so what makes compensated consensual sex sexual assault, when consensual sex without thought of favor or compensation isn't?

yeah that's all we needed to know thanks

Are you going to make an argument, or just attack people with one-liners?

[Ethel mermania]

yeah that's all we needed to know thanks

Are you going to make an argument, or just attack people with one-liners?

Hi, I am Ethel. You must be new here

[Katganistan]

We have seen in countries where sex and brothels are banned they have high rape rates. For instance, on the Indian sub-continent Sex is a very taboo subject and men are forced to repress their sexual desires and I have seen what happens to them.

The "men are horny rape monkeys" trope strikes again.

And I despise it, because men are not. They are either taught from infancy that this is unacceptable, or they are taught that they are owed sex, women are inferior, and that while they can take sex when they want it, any unmarried woman having sex is a whore and deserves rape or death.

Societies need to stop raising and excusing sexual predators, and putting the blame for it on their victims. Society also needs to dicuss it in the active voice rather than the passive -- not "one in six women have been sexually assaulted" but "25% of American men have committed at least one sexual assault against women".

Take the blame off the shoulders of the victims and call out the aggressors, ffs.

[Katganistan]

Are you going to make an argument, or just attack people with one-liners?

Hi, I am Ethel. You must be new here

Nope, simply calling out the lack of debate. And an answer would be helpful -- makes the decision to block posts that contribute absolutely nothing of worth so much faster.

[Stellar Colonies]

The "men are horny rape monkeys" trope strikes again.

...

"25% of American men have committed at least one sexual assault against women".

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I hope that's like a mirror of the 1/71 statistic, because that seems rather unbelievably high.

[Karovrusso Soyuz]

Hell yeah.

[Little St Nick]

I thought it worth noting that Germany made several international headlines some years back.
Issues raised included:
Could an individual's unemployment benefits be stopped if they were unwilling to work in a brothel?
Were government job agencies required to advertise vacancies in brothels?

https://www.spiegel.de/international/ze ... 82021.html